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Old 10-28-2004, 07:05 PM   #1
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Exclamation watch out for scammers

Guys,,keep an eye out for those slick scammers,,,,especially the ones from Nigeria..i seen em' on E-bay and have one trying to buy my 53 chev,,,Report em...This is a warning for us all,,Keep awake!!!,,,,Dave
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Old 10-28-2004, 07:14 PM   #2
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I think I have been stiffed a board member from Canada. Just giving him a chance to dig a bigger hole before I make mud of his name.
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:44 PM   #3
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I think I have been stiffed a board member from Canada. Just giving him a chance to dig a bigger hole before I make mud of his name.

Who is it?
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:51 PM   #4
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had 1 try to buy my 67 short box saying he was in london a US based company.so i have been there already and reported it. good advise.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:36 PM   #5
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How do they scam you, reason why I am asking is I had a guy from Sweden win the bid on one of my ebay auctions and I emailed him and told him my auction clearly stated that I would only ship to the US only and he emaled me back saying that he wanted me to ship the part to a location in the US and that he would get back in touch with me. I have not heard from him in about 6 days, it just seems kind of shady to me. Is there anything I need to watch out for.And who would you report them to.

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Old 10-28-2004, 09:47 PM   #6
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Hey, I don't see a problem with shipping anything to anywhere. Just as long as I get my money up front, I'll ship the part to any place in the world, if they pay for the right amount of shipping.

I sold a pair of original '73 Camaro door panels to a guy in Sweden. Shipping cost him alot, but he paid up front, and I shipped them to him.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:56 PM   #7
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I eBay alot and have seen the reverse of this scam many times. Typical MO is No Reserve, Private Bidder, 3-day auction, offering free shipping and low Buy it now price or buy it now price mentioned in description but no Buy it Now button. The always want cash, or western union direct pay. The item will always be something many people want, at a ridiculously low price. I just turned in one yesterday that was a 1999 HD FLH trike conversion. 1 day left, $500 opening bid with no bids and in the description they offered a Buy it now for 5200. They make you contact them before you bid so they can get your email address. Then they email you directly and work out the deal outside of eBay. DO NOT DO THIS. They may also use your email address for future scams so be careful.
I am not sure how you can get scammed reverse of what I described above. If you sell anything on eBay, do not ship the item until you have the actual dollars in hand. That means the almighty greenback. There are fake money orders out there so beware. Recieve the money order, cash the money order, and when you have the cash then send the item. Once you have the money who cares where it goes.

If you are selling big items where you want a deposit first and the rest later; Again do not ship or give up the item until you have hard dollar bills in your hand.

Maybe someone can explain the scam to me, but right now, in my opinion, if you get scammed by selling an item its your own fault.
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Old 10-28-2004, 10:42 PM   #8
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I work At a bank and this is one we see alot. Guy sells car or truck for 5,000.00 on ebay. He get cashiers check for 7,000.00. Buyier says he got a loan for truck for 7,000.00 but the bank would only make it out to seller. He then says for you to cash check keep your 5,000.00 and wire the 2,000.00 back to him. Well long story short the cashiers check is a copy or on a fake bank and comes back in about a week and you are out the 2,000.00 you wired to him. He never shows for the truck because he never wanted to buy it he just wants the 2,000.00. Have seen many variations of this lately about 3-4 a month for the last 6 months. So much so we inquiry were the check came from the say sold this on ebay. Luckly most of them we stop the person from going any further with the transaction so they do not lose out.
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Old 10-28-2004, 10:53 PM   #9
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76 bonanza so if you work at a bank can you tell us if a cashiers check is not good how would a person know and how long does a person have to wait before the bank is sure it is good. Anothers words whats the proper procedure with a cahiers check in hand.
Also other than cash what is another safe and quick way for you to get your money and not have to worry about it coming back a week later?
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Old 10-28-2004, 10:51 PM   #10
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I understand the cash in hand part, I would never ship anything until I have cashed the m/o. What I was concerned about was them having my e-mail addy, because it is a direct point to your paypal. I did not know if by having my e-mail addy that they may be able to tamper with my paypal funds somehow.

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Old 10-28-2004, 11:10 PM   #11
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Well any time they ask you to send cash back dont. They can get a new cashiers check if it is for the wrong amount. Unfortunatly cashiers checks are about the best you can do for large puchases. If you have a cashiers check call the issueing bank and ask about stops or holds and have them verify the amount and payee most banks will do that and if the check has been counterfieted with them they will know after two or three come thru. What they do is they buy a chashiers check for an amount made out to some one then they "wash it" either the amount and payee or one or the other so they use basicly a copy of a good check with good numbers and looks and signatures and just change the amount and payee so when the paying bank gets them they know they are fake after several of the same check come thru. Now if the bank is returning the check for stop payment or NSF they have to to it in a few days. But if it is a forged on a customer acct they have much more time usually 30 days after they get there statement. Hope this helps.
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Old 10-28-2004, 11:43 PM   #12
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I do Ebay alot and have heard of this situation happening to some of my friends; they sell an item and the buyer pays by paypal, funds deposited and paypal sends email to account holder (seller), seller then ships item and notifies buyer, buyer then reverses the payment, gets it back and has the item that was shipped to a PO Box that is closed as soon as item received, usually by priority mail paid by the buyer, but he got his money back, then you can't trace the po box.
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Old 10-28-2004, 11:44 PM   #13
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PS, answer/solution to above paypal scam is to transf the money OUT of paypal and do not keep a large balance that will allow someone to reverse the payment.
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Old 10-28-2004, 11:53 PM   #14
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PS, answer/solution to above paypal scam is to transf the money OUT of paypal and do not keep a large balance that will allow someone to reverse the payment.
Yup, I always have a $0 balance. I transfer it as soon as I know it is in the Paypal accoutn.
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Old 10-29-2004, 12:44 AM   #15
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Look out for phony Western Union "Bid Pal" scams.They tried that on me.
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Old 10-30-2004, 09:34 PM   #16
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I have dealt with all kinds of these scammers selling cars on online classifieds. I have seen the Nigerian scammers and now the London based versions. Right now I have a nice $9,000 cashiers check in my posession from one of these scammers. I knew it was a scam so I told him to send me the check, he did, and I now have something I will never see in real life but looks cool anyway, my name on a check for a nice chunk of change.
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