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XXL · 01-24-2005, 01:16 PM

I drove my truck up to slammed67's place this weekend for the xmember swap. Here's progress...

XXL · 01-24-2005, 01:18 PM

and then after the

refreshments...

**lolife99** · 01-24-2005, 01:21 PM

XXL,... What are you going to do with the old crossmember? I'm looking for one to cut up.

XXL · 01-24-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

XXL,... What are you going to do with the old crossmember? I'm looking for one to cut up.

...

**lolife99** · 01-24-2005, 09:39 PM

PM'd you,...

phantom dually · 01-24-2005, 10:09 PM

R U done yet??

XXL · 01-24-2005, 10:14 PM

Nice road rash I've got on the front edge of that control arm. Note: Somewhere in Wichita there's a missing yellow dot from the road.

XXL · 01-25-2005, 01:17 PM

slammed67 is such a diligent worker. Here's a progress pic...

XXL · 01-25-2005, 01:59 PM

more...

XXL · 01-25-2005, 02:00 PM

BTW... capt kaos, we discussed potential tie rod clearance issues, but you felt it wouldn't be a problem. Oops

grnddwn · 01-25-2005, 02:25 PM

I hear grinding noises in your future. I"ve had to do that to every crossmember I've built so far same spot.

Slammed67 · 01-25-2005, 03:45 PM

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I hear grinding noises in your future.

Yes, that is what I'll be doing this evening, after a few beers of course

SCOTI · 01-25-2005, 03:45 PM

XXL, CaptKaos, or Slammed, how much of notch is that crossmember?

**Captkaos** · 01-27-2005, 03:11 AM

WOW, you are moving along! That piece looks really familiar...

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Originally Posted by XXL

BTW... capt kaos, we discussed potential tie rod clearance issues, but you felt it wouldn't be a problem. Oops

I expected grinding on the lip area, the clearance area I was refereing to that wouldn't be a problem was in between the framerails for the centerlink. Sorry for the confusion.... I appologize.

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Originally Posted by phantom dually

OUCH I remember asking those questions to Bill Turner when I was only going to do the member and not the Rack and pinion. He spoke of turning the parts backwards somehow?? Not sure if he was blowing $hit up my ARSE or what??

I am guessing he was talking about flipping the tie rod ends to point up and retapering the spindles to gain clearance at the framerails so they don't have to be notched as much, but... you aren't actually moving the centerlink down, so....

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Originally Posted by Slammed67

Did '73+ trucks have such a spacer on them from the factory?? That's the only explanation I could come up with.

This is the way they go. Bevel pointed inside.

The 73-87's have a beveled washer that goes into that "slot", shims are placed between it and the frame.

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Originally Posted by lolife99

Is it true that you can use a "VAN" steering box? Like a early to late '70's model? Something about the box being taller, to help clear the upper arm. Seems like "fiveeightchevy" posted. Anyone?

I have heard that, but I haven't found "the box....

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Originally Posted by XXL

It looks like the problem is the ART upper arm width that's causing the real problem. With the stock uppers on there is a lot more clearance (though I don't know if it's enough).

No, It won't be enough...

XXL · 01-27-2005, 11:41 PM

low?

fastbagged68 · 01-25-2005, 06:20 PM

How come there is not alot of Pabst Blue Ribbon. I see ALOT of Lite's though. Pabst Blue Ribbon is the poor boy special!

phantom dually · 01-25-2005, 10:33 PM

OUCH I remember asking those questions to Bill Turner when I was only going to do the member and not the Rack and pinion. He spoke of turning the parts backwards somehow?? Not sure if he was blowing $hit up my ARSE or what??

XXL · 01-26-2005, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by phantom dually

OUCH I remember asking those questions to Bill Turner...

But Bill Turner is a nice guy and, for those of you who don't know slammed67, he's quite the bleeding cl!t {inside joke}

SCOTI · 01-26-2005, 12:01 PM

Slammed, you have PM.

XXL · 01-26-2005, 01:36 PM

Almost done...

XXL · 01-26-2005, 01:38 PM

Let the problems begin...

fastbagged68 · 01-26-2005, 02:03 PM

Where are your spacers for the upper control arms? You also need your borgenson joints to clear your upper arm, any time you go that low you are going to need to do it.
Where are the budweisers?

Slammed67 · 01-26-2005, 02:33 PM

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Where are your spacers for the upper control arms?

I haven't put them in yet. Look at the first pic in XXL's last post. See how one side of the a-arm shaft where it bolts to the x-member is dished or cupped and the other side is flat? It looks like the dished part matches the curved surface on the cross member studs, but I don't think you'd want to put shims between those two non-flat surfaces. However, if you rotate them so the flat side is facing inwards, then the nuts would be against that dished a-arm shaft. Why is one side dished like that??? The '67-'72 shafts are flat on both sides which makes sense. So which way should they be installed?

XXL · 01-26-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fastbagged68

You also need your borgenson joints to clear your upper arm, any time you go that low you are going to need to do it.
Where are the budweisers?

It looks like the problem is the ART upper arm width that's causing the real problem. With the stock uppers on there is a lot more clearance (though I don't know if it's enough).

And I've been on the phone with Borgeson this morning... working on a solution.

Izzy · 01-26-2005, 02:41 PM

On my buddies 85 the shop that did the alignment used spacers that were dished to match the shaft on the outside of the spacer stack.

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01-24-2005, 10:14 PM	#7
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01-25-2005, 02:00 PM	#10
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01-25-2005, 02:25 PM	#11
grnddwn belly dragger Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: sherwood park AB. Canada Posts: 694	I hear grinding noises in your future. I"ve had to do that to every crossmember I've built so far same spot.

01-25-2005, 03:45 PM	#13
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01-27-2005, 11:41 PM	#15
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01-25-2005, 06:20 PM	#16
fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	How come there is not alot of Pabst Blue Ribbon. I see ALOT of Lite's though. Pabst Blue Ribbon is the poor boy special!

01-25-2005, 10:33 PM	#17
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	OUCH I remember asking those questions to Bill Turner when I was only going to do the member and not the Rack and pinion. He spoke of turning the parts backwards somehow?? Not sure if he was blowing $hit up my ARSE or what?? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

01-26-2005, 12:01 PM	#19
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fastbagged68 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tri Valley California Posts: 792	Where are your spacers for the upper control arms? You also need your borgenson joints to clear your upper arm, any time you go that low you are going to need to do it. Where are the budweisers?

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Izzy Trucker. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,364	On my buddies 85 the shop that did the alignment used spacers that were dished to match the shaft on the outside of the spacer stack.

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