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bigarmzz · 03-09-2005, 07:33 PM

GM must be out of there mind

i just called to see what new fenders, etc would cost me to fix my truck up real nice......i called "Ballard Chevrolet" in Weston, West Virginia...

this is what they told me:

RH and LH fenders....discontinued
Doors.....................$545 each
inner fenders...........$176 each(but, LH discontinued)
rockers...................$151 each
cab corners.............discontinued
bedsides.................$867 a side!!!

is that nuts or what???

you'd have to win the damn lottery to use Genuine GM body parts..

77gmcjoe · 03-09-2005, 07:38 PM

When I re-did my truck, the body shop used Taiwanese replacement sheetmetal. I was told that it was nearly as good as the stuff GM was selling, which they said was made in Mexico. The only problem with the Taiwan stuff was the passenger bedside was tough to get lined up. Everything else looked pretty good.

bigarmzz · 03-09-2005, 07:50 PM

yeah i know, a good friend of mine runs a body shop, he says that as long as the aftermarket parts are "c.a.p.p.a. approved" there high quality....i guess that means that the insurance company approves them for quality

here's the cappa aftermarket prices he gave me

Fenders...........................$94.25
doors..............................$128.70
inner fenders....................$38.35
rockers............................$15.60
cab corners......................$13.00
reflexxions steel cowl hood..$390

the reflexxions hood is good stuff...i put one on a truck i redid a year ago, it lined up perfect in 20 minutes...it was good and heavy too....i used his cappa parts on the same truck, and to me, it was all good stuff...

his rockers and corners were the thickest i've seen...and the price was cheap enough for my tight *ss

screw GM....

alpha_male0203 · 03-09-2005, 07:52 PM

YEA that is a good point but i guess if you have money and want everything. But there is no look difference. shane

bigarmzz · 03-09-2005, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_male0203

YEA that is a good point but i guess if you have money and want everything. But there is no look difference. shane

well, the prices my friend quoted me werent discounted though....i'm probably gonna try and jew him a few more bucks when i am ready to get a few things

those GM prices though, were so overpriced, i just had to post them

plain crazzzzzyyyyyy

**lolife99** · 03-09-2005, 09:22 PM

I had a hard time getting $200.00 each, for my NOS fenders and doors last year. Finally sold them to a buddy after he called the dealer to verify prices. I wish I'd kept them now for a "future" project. NOS sheetmetal will be like gold. Better jump on those fenders on the parts board,... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php3?t=143323

*1FaastC10* · 03-09-2005, 09:48 PM

CAPA Certified parts are not certified by insurance companies, they're certified by the manufacturer of the part to be a high quality direct replacement part.

patgizz · 03-09-2005, 10:03 PM

i found new doors on ebay for $75 each. i bought rockers from ebay for $10 each and they are made in USA replacements. gonna buy my corners from the same place.

bigarmzz · 03-09-2005, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patgizz

i found new doors on ebay for $75 each. i bought rockers from ebay for $10 each and they are made in USA replacements. gonna buy my corners from the same place.

man, i bet the shipping on a door would be just alittle bit high, wouldnt it?

probably knock ya up there around $100 altogether or so, maybe more

TrainD5115 · 03-10-2005, 12:27 AM

I sold a pair of 73-80 GM fenders last summer, still in the box, for $250. I thought I could get more but I needed the cash for an exhaust system at the time. I was lucky enough to stumble onto them at a garage sale for $50 and another guy got them from me for his resto project.

Jonboy · 03-10-2005, 12:36 AM

I bought a pair of GM fenders for by Blazer a few months ago, and they weren't all that bad, I didn't think. I bought new hood hinges and battery tray at the same time. I bought aftermarket doors and inner fenders because I am going to have to cut the top of the doors anyhow, and they seem to be of OK quality.

**AspecialZ** · 03-10-2005, 01:35 AM

you need to talk to me in wellsburg, wv

86k10 · 03-10-2005, 01:37 AM

I must have done the right thing and bought a few things back in 98. This stuff is for my 86K10. I got both front fenders, fenderwells, hood, headliner, lefthand box side, silverado emblems, and all 4 fender mouldings for right at $1000. Up til now the only thing I have put on is the new headliner.

cib101abn · 03-10-2005, 09:40 AM

What does the initials "c.a.p.p.a." stand for?

guess the price of sheetmetal parts is a supply and demand thing, I had some OE fenders, etc for a 72 that I tried for months and months to get rid of with no takers, advertised on the 72 board continously...finaly sold the pass. side fender, no dents, rust or battery acid damage, just like new...all I could get was $35, finally gave the box side fenders away just to save me the trouble of hauling them to the dump.

benscool1 · 03-10-2005, 09:59 AM

When my bro re-did his 84 he used all genuine GM parts on the front end, he ended up paying $250 a piece for the front fenders, and $375 for the hood. He ended up using cheaper bedsides though. He did have a problem w/the bedside, he couldn't get it to line up right, but it wasn't even stamped right(you know how around the wheelwells, its flared? well it was only 1/2 like that)it didn't really stand out, but if you look at it you'll notice it. And this was the 3rd side they had sent us because the other 2 had dents.

Jonboy · 03-10-2005, 11:03 AM

CAPA stands for "Certified auto parts association". CAPA certified means that a part is certified to fit the application which it is intended. CAPA is a seperate organization, not run by insurance companies. Check out www.capacertified.org .

cliffsta · 03-10-2005, 12:54 PM

Yeah I'm dreading bedsides for good ol' red....being a steppie its hard to find em used, and even repro bedisdes and fenders are $$$$$$

Dano69c10 · 03-10-2005, 05:28 PM

If you are going to use it for a daily driver and not a show truck, I would not
use the expensive GM parts.

HERES MY STORY

I once restored a 70 c-10 SWB with all GM parts. I was young and single making a lot of cash at the time. I splurged for a $2000 paint job, had about $2000+ in GM body parts and interior accessories. That truck looked like it just came off the showroom floor. About 5 days after the resto I was driving through an intersection when some 15 year old kid in a honda ran a red light sideswiped the driver's side bed, spun me around and then a guy in a dodge rear-ended me and I went head-on into a light pole. Needless to say every body panel was thrashed and all the glass was inside the cab. Not even one NOS hubcap survived. People told me that it happended that way so I wouldn't get hurt. I only had a cut on the bridge of my nose. I guess if the rear view mirror would have broke also, I would have walked away without a scratch. At the accident scene people seemed to be only shook up over the fact that my truck was totalled, when they lifted the kid into the ambulance everyone booed!

I am now restoring a 69 c-10 and I'm using repro parts or inexpensive used GM parts.

Moral of the story;
the probability of someone totaling a repro-truck is way less than the probability of totaling a genuine truck (Murphy's Law).

Just my $0.02
Dano

f.monroe · 03-10-2005, 06:05 PM

There are specialty insurance companies yo insure vehicles like this .It is only about $100 a year for a NON daily driver and you can recover the money for the good parts .Imagine what might have happened to you if the parts were thin metal repro pieces .I do not have a problem spending a little extra for better parts even if the only one who notices is me .Frank

03-09-2005, 07:33 PM	#1
bigarmzz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elkins, West Virginia Posts: 2,542	new GM parts....GM is out of there mind! GM must be out of there mind i just called to see what new fenders, etc would cost me to fix my truck up real nice......i called "Ballard Chevrolet" in Weston, West Virginia... this is what they told me: RH and LH fenders....discontinued Doors.....................$545 each inner fenders...........$176 each(but, LH discontinued) rockers...................$151 each cab corners.............discontinued bedsides.................$867 a side!!! is that nuts or what??? you'd have to win the damn lottery to use Genuine GM body parts.. __________________ 1987 350 TBI lowered 5/7 Last edited by bigarmzz; 03-09-2005 at 07:53 PM.

03-09-2005, 07:38 PM	#2
77gmcjoe What do we get for $10? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Beardstown, Illinois Posts: 340	When I re-did my truck, the body shop used Taiwanese replacement sheetmetal. I was told that it was nearly as good as the stuff GM was selling, which they said was made in Mexico. The only problem with the Taiwan stuff was the passenger bedside was tough to get lined up. Everything else looked pretty good. __________________ 1977 GMC K25 400/400/205 1989 Chevy Suburban R1500 350/700R4 (work beater) 1994 Chevy K3500 dually 454/4L80 1996 Corvette LT4 350/ZF 6 speed 2000 Bonneville SSEI Supercharged 3.8 Liter V6 1966 Chevelle 2 door sedan (Needs major repair )

03-09-2005, 07:50 PM	#3
bigarmzz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elkins, West Virginia Posts: 2,542	yeah i know, a good friend of mine runs a body shop, he says that as long as the aftermarket parts are "c.a.p.p.a. approved" there high quality....i guess that means that the insurance company approves them for quality here's the cappa aftermarket prices he gave me Fenders...........................$94.25 doors..............................$128.70 inner fenders....................$38.35 rockers............................$15.60 cab corners......................$13.00 reflexxions steel cowl hood..$390 the reflexxions hood is good stuff...i put one on a truck i redid a year ago, it lined up perfect in 20 minutes...it was good and heavy too....i used his cappa parts on the same truck, and to me, it was all good stuff... his rockers and corners were the thickest i've seen...and the price was cheap enough for my tight ss screw GM.... __________________ 1987 350 TBI lowered 5/7 Last edited by bigarmzz; 03-09-2005 at 07:52 PM.*

03-09-2005, 07:52 PM	#4
alpha_male0203 95 extended cab sportside Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Clinton, Iowa western. Posts: 895	YEA that is a good point but i guess if you have money and want everything. But there is no look difference. shane __________________ 95 Chevy k 1500 00 Chevy Silverado 1500 07 cobalt Old ladies car]

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lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,701	I had a hard time getting $200.00 each, for my NOS fenders and doors last year. Finally sold them to a buddy after he called the dealer to verify prices. I wish I'd kept them now for a "future" project. NOS sheetmetal will be like gold. Better jump on those fenders on the parts board,... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php3?t=143323 __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

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1FaastC10 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 6,399	CAPA Certified parts are not certified by insurance companies, they're certified by the manufacturer of the part to be a high quality direct replacement part.

03-09-2005, 10:03 PM	#8
patgizz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 429	i found new doors on ebay for $75 each. i bought rockers from ebay for $10 each and they are made in USA replacements. gonna buy my corners from the same place. __________________ 1968 C20 292/sm465 1990 C3500 dually 454/th400 1991 sonoma 4.3/700r4 1994 K1500 burb 350/4L60e 1954 belair, 1991 corvette, 1972 chevelle, 1995 LS swapped impala SS

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Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	I bought a pair of GM fenders for by Blazer a few months ago, and they weren't all that bad, I didn't think. I bought new hood hinges and battery tray at the same time. I bought aftermarket doors and inner fenders because I am going to have to cut the top of the doors anyhow, and they seem to be of OK quality. __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

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86k10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bertrand, Nebraska Posts: 355	I must have done the right thing and bought a few things back in 98. This stuff is for my 86K10. I got both front fenders, fenderwells, hood, headliner, lefthand box side, silverado emblems, and all 4 fender mouldings for right at $1000. Up til now the only thing I have put on is the new headliner. __________________ 98 Neon 97 Grand Prix GT 02 Grand Prix 40th Anniv. 86 GMC 5.0 77 Olds 98 6.6 REAL AMERICANS, DRIVE AMERICAN

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cib101abn Screaming Eagle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SW of Houston Posts: 288	What does the initials "c.a.p.p.a." stand for? guess the price of sheetmetal parts is a supply and demand thing, I had some OE fenders, etc for a 72 that I tried for months and months to get rid of with no takers, advertised on the 72 board continously...finaly sold the pass. side fender, no dents, rust or battery acid damage, just like new...all I could get was $35, finally gave the box side fenders away just to save me the trouble of hauling them to the dump. __________________ "Basic Research is what I am doing when I don't know what I am doing." Dr. Werner VonBraun (Rocket Scientist) Contributing Member 79 GMC SWB w/402 79 Chev SWB w400 sm blk being built remnants of 72 Cheyenne (selling)

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benscool1 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Williamsfield, IL Posts: 781	When my bro re-did his 84 he used all genuine GM parts on the front end, he ended up paying $250 a piece for the front fenders, and $375 for the hood. He ended up using cheaper bedsides though. He did have a problem w/the bedside, he couldn't get it to line up right, but it wasn't even stamped right(you know how around the wheelwells, its flared? well it was only 1/2 like that)it didn't really stand out, but if you look at it you'll notice it. And this was the 3rd side they had sent us because the other 2 had dents. __________________ Ben 84 C10 Silverado 14 Silverado Z71

03-10-2005, 11:03 AM	#16
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	CAPA stands for "Certified auto parts association". CAPA certified means that a part is certified to fit the application which it is intended. CAPA is a seperate organization, not run by insurance companies. Check out www.capacertified.org . __________________ 1974 Jimmy- 5.3/4L80e/NP241

03-10-2005, 12:54 PM	#17
cliffsta Stepsides RULE Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,921	Yeah I'm dreading bedsides for good ol' red....being a steppie its hard to find em used, and even repro bedisdes and fenders are $$$$$$ __________________ 1981 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe Stepside 350 V8, headers, side exhausts, 3-speed auto SOLD 1980 Chevy C10 Custum Deluxe Stepside 305 V8, Edelbrock Performer Intake, Edelbrock 1406 600CFM 4-barrel, TH350C. Bent rod. SOLD 1984 GMC Sierra Classic Longbed 6.2L Diesel SOLD 2009 Kawasaki KLX-250S too many mods for this signature 1999 Honda Accord EX 4-cylinder, 17" Motegi Wheels 215/45/17 Sumitomo tires, Tein S-Tech lowering springs, KYB GR2 shocks, Acura TL 20mm rear swaybar, debadged, blackhoused headlights, Short-Ram Intake Cardomain of the Accord



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03-10-2005, 05:28 PM	#18
Dano69c10 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ontario, Kali Posts: 2,427	If you are going to use it for a daily driver and not a show truck, I would not use the expensive GM parts. HERES MY STORY I once restored a 70 c-10 SWB with all GM parts. I was young and single making a lot of cash at the time. I splurged for a $2000 paint job, had about $2000+ in GM body parts and interior accessories. That truck looked like it just came off the showroom floor. About 5 days after the resto I was driving through an intersection when some 15 year old kid in a honda ran a red light sideswiped the driver's side bed, spun me around and then a guy in a dodge rear-ended me and I went head-on into a light pole. Needless to say every body panel was thrashed and all the glass was inside the cab. Not even one NOS hubcap survived. People told me that it happended that way so I wouldn't get hurt. I only had a cut on the bridge of my nose. I guess if the rear view mirror would have broke also, I would have walked away without a scratch. At the accident scene people seemed to be only shook up over the fact that my truck was totalled, when they lifted the kid into the ambulance everyone booed! I am now restoring a 69 c-10 and I'm using repro parts or inexpensive used GM parts. Moral of the story; the probability of someone totaling a repro-truck is way less than the probability of totaling a genuine truck (Murphy's Law). Just my $0.02 Dano __________________ '69 Fleet It ain't yours, if you didn't build it! Last edited by Dano69c10; 03-10-2005 at 05:37 PM.

03-10-2005, 06:05 PM	#19
f.monroe Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Caldwell,Tx. Posts: 3,648	Insurance There are specialty insurance companies yo insure vehicles like this .It is only about $100 a year for a NON daily driver and you can recover the money for the good parts .Imagine what might have happened to you if the parts were thin metal repro pieces .I do not have a problem spending a little extra for better parts even if the only one who notices is me .Frank

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