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Hoods69BadBowTie · 03-13-2005, 11:12 AM

Okay I need to replace the rear output seal on my transfer case. Its for my 3/4 ton '79 Pickup. I talked to the dealer and the auto parts store and they said it could either have a 203 or a 205. I could not find that tag on it anywhere that says what size it is. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on how to find out what one it was. I am hoping its the 205.
-Later

**Stocker** · 03-13-2005, 11:31 AM

I bet someone will post pics or something to help you ID the t-case, but if not, remove an inspection plate & peek inside. The 203 will be chain driven, the 205 has gears...

Hoods69BadBowTie · 03-13-2005, 12:04 PM

Yeah, I know that much I was just hoping not to have to do that but if it comes down to it, it wont be too much of a problem. Thanx

Truckstuff · 03-13-2005, 12:11 PM

Np 205

Truckstuff · 03-13-2005, 12:16 PM

Np 203

Hoods69BadBowTie · 03-13-2005, 01:22 PM

Hey, Thanx Truckstuff that 1st picture you posted looks exactly like what I have and the shifter knob is identical.
-Later

griesel72 · 03-13-2005, 10:10 PM

usually the sound is different when you are driving it in 4X4 (or is is a full time 4X4) The 205 will have a more "gear" sound (easy for me to say, huh) And the 203 will have a lower pitched louder sound.

Maybe this didn't help as much as i thought when i started typing.

ryanroo · 03-13-2005, 10:32 PM

if its factory the auto trucks would have the 203 and the 4 speed trucks would have the 205, but you sig says its got 39s, so factory could be a moot point
Ryan

rickstores69chev · 03-14-2005, 03:09 AM

I had a message posted earlier. I think we identified my Transfer as a 203. But now having looked at the blue one I think it is just like mine. Where is the cover to check the chain? Maybe I will do that. I have twin sticks. I know I have heard it is impossible to have a 203 with twin sticks. HEre is another picture of the Transfer. Be glad to get some feedback!

Thanks

Rick

ryanroo · 03-14-2005, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickstores69chev

I had a message posted earlier. I think we identified my Transfer as a 203. But now having looked at the blue one I think it is just like mine. Where is the cover to check the chain? Maybe I will do that. I have twin sticks. I know I have heard it is impossible to have a 203 with twin sticks. HEre is another picture of the Transfer. Be glad to get some feedback!

Thanks

Rick

definately not a 205, you can identify the 205 by the three bolt intermediate shaft cover between the output housing and the lower aluminum bolt on cover.
ryan

LONGHAIR · 03-14-2005, 07:22 AM

rickstores69chev..........that is definately a 203.

smokekiki · 03-14-2005, 11:15 AM

rickstores69chev....This is from offroad design....NP203 twin stick shifters: $170
That's right, we can twin stick the 203! You get rid of the trouble prone and typically worn out factory shifter box and replace it with 2 levers for much more positive gear selection. One lever will shift the case through Hi-N-Lo and the other will control the differential lock, or on cases converted to part time, the other lever will control 2wd-4wd. This shifter can also be converted to a Doubler shifter with a simple linkage change. Available for GM, Ford and Dodge

smokekiki · 03-14-2005, 11:17 AM

Forgot the link...www.offroaddesign.com

Hoods69BadBowTie · 03-14-2005, 03:03 PM

Yeah, that other guys is a 203.

rickstores69chev · 03-15-2005, 02:45 AM

Hey guys. Thanks for all the info. RYANROO, I would have never noticed the 3 bolt without your illustration. I am buying a NP205 to replace this. It is already bolted up to a TH350. I bought my truck with some tranny issues. First it was stuck in low. The tranny was rebuilt but it leaks Fluid and it has coated the whole bottom chassis. So probably not going to mess with it. Although I am wondering if I will have to extend or shorten the drive shafts to do the change over. I appreciate any tips on the conversion.

03-13-2005, 11:12 AM	#1
Hoods69BadBowTie Chevys Kick A$$ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zootown, MT Posts: 12,699	203 or 205 Transfer Case? Okay I need to replace the rear output seal on my transfer case. Its for my 3/4 ton '79 Pickup. I talked to the dealer and the auto parts store and they said it could either have a 203 or a 205. I could not find that tag on it anywhere that says what size it is. I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on how to find out what one it was. I am hoping its the 205. -Later __________________ HOODS is what I answer too -'79, '77, '88 Pickup Sold, '85 Camaro, '83 T/A, '81,'83,'90 K5 Blazer All Sold -'79 3/4 ton "Big Yellow Bananna" Lifted 4spd. 39.5 TSL Swampers, The money Pit -'86 K5 Blazer Silverado 6.2 4" lift 35"s -'95 Ext. Cab Shorty 4" Tuff Country rolling 35" M/T's -'83 Monte Carlo T-Tops. 126,500 Original Miles -LATER I would rather push a Chevy then drive a ford!!

03-13-2005, 11:31 AM	#2
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,806	I bet someone will post pics or something to help you ID the t-case, but if not, remove an inspection plate & peek inside. The 203 will be chain driven, the 205 has gears... __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

03-13-2005, 12:04 PM	#3
Hoods69BadBowTie Chevys Kick A$$ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zootown, MT Posts: 12,699	Yeah, I know that much I was just hoping not to have to do that but if it comes down to it, it wont be too much of a problem. Thanx __________________ HOODS is what I answer too -'79, '77, '88 Pickup Sold, '85 Camaro, '83 T/A, '81,'83,'90 K5 Blazer All Sold -'79 3/4 ton "Big Yellow Bananna" Lifted 4spd. 39.5 TSL Swampers, The money Pit -'86 K5 Blazer Silverado 6.2 4" lift 35"s -'95 Ext. Cab Shorty 4" Tuff Country rolling 35" M/T's -'83 Monte Carlo T-Tops. 126,500 Original Miles -LATER I would rather push a Chevy then drive a ford!!

03-13-2005, 12:11 PM	#4
Truckstuff Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cloverdale, British Columbia Canada Posts: 159	Np 205 Attached Images __________________ Real Trucks are Built not Bought Building: 1981 GM SB LowRider 1985 GM K3500 3+3 1981 GM K2500 SSB 1980 GM K2500 X-BC Hydro 1979 GM K3500 3+3 1976 GM K5 Blazer 1970 Custom 10 http://bc4x4.com/

03-13-2005, 12:16 PM	#5
Truckstuff Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cloverdale, British Columbia Canada Posts: 159	Np 203 Attached Images __________________ Real Trucks are Built not Bought Building: 1981 GM SB LowRider 1985 GM K3500 3+3 1981 GM K2500 SSB 1980 GM K2500 X-BC Hydro 1979 GM K3500 3+3 1976 GM K5 Blazer 1970 Custom 10 http://bc4x4.com/ Last edited by Truckstuff; 03-13-2005 at 12:24 PM.

03-13-2005, 01:22 PM	#6
Hoods69BadBowTie Chevys Kick A$$ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zootown, MT Posts: 12,699	Hey, Thanx Truckstuff that 1st picture you posted looks exactly like what I have and the shifter knob is identical. -Later __________________ HOODS is what I answer too -'79, '77, '88 Pickup Sold, '85 Camaro, '83 T/A, '81,'83,'90 K5 Blazer All Sold -'79 3/4 ton "Big Yellow Bananna" Lifted 4spd. 39.5 TSL Swampers, The money Pit -'86 K5 Blazer Silverado 6.2 4" lift 35"s -'95 Ext. Cab Shorty 4" Tuff Country rolling 35" M/T's -'83 Monte Carlo T-Tops. 126,500 Original Miles -LATER I would rather push a Chevy then drive a ford!!

03-13-2005, 10:10 PM	#7
griesel72 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Howard, Kansas USA Posts: 1,997	usually the sound is different when you are driving it in 4X4 (or is is a full time 4X4) The 205 will have a more "gear" sound (easy for me to say, huh) And the 203 will have a lower pitched louder sound. Maybe this didn't help as much as i thought when i started typing. __________________ 1969 K10 Custom 10 1997 Z71 2006 Volkswagen Jetta TDI 2006 King Ranch 1980 Wife

03-13-2005, 10:32 PM	#8
ryanroo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sw colorado Posts: 2,720	if its factory the auto trucks would have the 203 and the 4 speed trucks would have the 205, but you sig says its got 39s, so factory could be a moot point Ryan __________________ 72 K20 12v build 72 K20 "parts truck" A place for your diesel swap questions

03-14-2005, 03:09 AM	#9
rickstores69chev Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 40	I think I have a 205 I had a message posted earlier. I think we identified my Transfer as a 203. But now having looked at the blue one I think it is just like mine. Where is the cover to check the chain? Maybe I will do that. I have twin sticks. I know I have heard it is impossible to have a 203 with twin sticks. HEre is another picture of the Transfer. Be glad to get some feedback! Thanks Rick Attached Images Last edited by rickstores69chev; 03-14-2005 at 03:21 AM.

03-14-2005, 07:22 AM	#11
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	rickstores69chev..........that is definately a 203.

03-14-2005, 11:15 AM	#12
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,473	rickstores69chev....This is from offroad design....NP203 twin stick shifters: $170 That's right, we can twin stick the 203! You get rid of the trouble prone and typically worn out factory shifter box and replace it with 2 levers for much more positive gear selection. One lever will shift the case through Hi-N-Lo and the other will control the differential lock, or on cases converted to part time, the other lever will control 2wd-4wd. This shifter can also be converted to a Doubler shifter with a simple linkage change. Available for GM, Ford and Dodge __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

03-14-2005, 11:17 AM	#13
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,473	Forgot the link...www.offroaddesign.com __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

03-14-2005, 03:03 PM	#14
Hoods69BadBowTie Chevys Kick A$$ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zootown, MT Posts: 12,699	Yeah, that other guys is a 203. __________________ HOODS is what I answer too -'79, '77, '88 Pickup Sold, '85 Camaro, '83 T/A, '81,'83,'90 K5 Blazer All Sold -'79 3/4 ton "Big Yellow Bananna" Lifted 4spd. 39.5 TSL Swampers, The money Pit -'86 K5 Blazer Silverado 6.2 4" lift 35"s -'95 Ext. Cab Shorty 4" Tuff Country rolling 35" M/T's -'83 Monte Carlo T-Tops. 126,500 Original Miles -LATER I would rather push a Chevy then drive a ford!!

03-15-2005, 02:45 AM	#15
rickstores69chev Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 40	Hey guys. Thanks for all the info. RYANROO, I would have never noticed the 3 bolt without your illustration. I am buying a NP205 to replace this. It is already bolted up to a TH350. I bought my truck with some tranny issues. First it was stuck in low. The tranny was rebuilt but it leaks Fluid and it has coated the whole bottom chassis. So probably not going to mess with it. Although I am wondering if I will have to extend or shorten the drive shafts to do the change over. I appreciate any tips on the conversion.



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