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Old 04-26-2005, 12:49 AM   #1
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Question New wiring HELP.. Painless or M&H

Painless kit 10206 $309.00 or M&H for $950.00

Pro and cons.

70 chevy going back semi stock with old air, hei and new tilt steering. i would like a clean setup (like stock but cleaner)

i have read a lot of post on painless but have not seen to many on m&h.

and thought??
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Old 04-26-2005, 12:55 AM   #2
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Personally don't care for Painless. I like M&H. But I prefer Ron Francis. They can also build the harness for what ever plug you need for the alternator, steering column, etc.
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Old 04-26-2005, 12:59 AM   #3
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Personally don't care for Painless. I like M&H. But I prefer Ron Francis. They can also build the harness for what ever plug you need for the alternator, steering column, etc.
have you used ron francis on your truck? and if so can i get a pic. i have clean up the firewall so i would like to use the holes there. thanks
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Old 04-26-2005, 02:27 AM   #4
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Goplay2 if you decide to go the M&H wiring route check out our web site electrical wiring pages, we only carry M&H wiring harnesses at 25-30% below there retail prices. You'll find the wiring here
http://www.gmcpauls.com/Electrical.htm
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Old 04-26-2005, 04:12 AM   #5
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I used the Painless kit and found it to be really well made. It was easy to install and came with well written instructions. It is very versatile, I am running a '95 LT1 with all the factory accessories and the kit had everything to hook them up to include the correct wiring for the altenator.
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Old 04-26-2005, 08:22 AM   #6
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NPilot1975,

Not to hijack the thread, but how did you wire the Painless system into the neutral safety switch? The stock GM column switch only has 4 wires and the Pinleaa harness requires a fifth one to be hooked to the switch.


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I used the Painless kit and found it to be really well made. It was easy to install and came with well written instructions. It is very versatile, I am running a '95 LT1 with all the factory accessories and the kit had everything to hook them up to include the correct wiring for the altenator.
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Old 04-26-2005, 10:42 AM   #7
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Are you talking about for the LT1? I actually used a combination of the switch housing that came on the colmn and the guts from a switch like the one they show in the instructions. The screw holes did not line up for the replacement switch, I believe it is from a newer model truck. You just have to be careful as you bend the tangs not to break them off.
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:17 AM   #8
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How about the EZ wiring? Is it any good? Runs about $150 on Evilbay. Has anyone tried it? I know I have heard you get what you pay for. Just wondering.
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Old 04-26-2005, 12:52 PM   #9
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NPilot1975,

No, mine's an '87 MAF setup off a Camaro. The stock '72 Chevy gear shift switch is completely different and the switch recommended by Painless isn't even close to fitting. I'll keep poking around. Thanks
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I looked through the catalog of switches at NAPA and found the one that looked like the one that painless has. There are a few styles, the all plastic one will not work. There is one like it with a metal back. Like I said, I had to use the metal back from the original switch and put the guts from the switch I bought from NAPA. If I wasn't overseas I would look for a part number on it.
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I looked through the catalog of switches at NAPA and found the one that looked like the one that painless has. There are a few styles, the all plastic one will not work. There is one like it with a metal back. Like I said, I had to use the metal back from the original switch and put the guts from the switch I bought from NAPA. If I wasn't overseas I would look for a part number on it.
Thanks. I finally found someone at Painless that could help me; they have an adapter for this problem:
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