Opinion's on LS2 Crate Motor - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

GlennBrittain · 07-22-2005, 11:37 PM

Does anyone have any experiance with this engine or have installed one. This price is hard to beat, but I am really ignorant when it comes to the new motors.

GM PART # 12499750
CATEGORY: Eng Asm-(shipped only to local fedex hub 4 pickup)
PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $7,500.00
OUR PRICE: $5,250.00
DESCRIPTION: LS2 CRATE ENGINE (400hp) 6.0 364cu.in.
This is the production 2005 LS2 corvette engine complete from intake to oilpan. This will not have a wiring harness nor ecm.
NOTE* Pulleys, serpentine belts, power steering pump, a/c pump, starter, alternator and engine covers are not included with this engine.

Tim240Z · 07-22-2005, 11:45 PM

Or....drop some real coin and buy some cubic inches:
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...5-P930C53.aspx

GlennBrittain · 07-26-2005, 01:28 PM

I wish I could afford that motor, it would really set off my 69. The smaller one is already over my budget. I am retired and have limited resouces.

67chevemall · 07-26-2005, 03:39 PM

What do you have now? just rebuild the OEM.
$0.02

neonlarry · 07-26-2005, 04:39 PM

From what you posted, I think you can add another couple thousand by the time you add all the pulleys, accessories, motor mounts, ECU and harness. Then you get to the transmission. But yes, they are a nice engine

Joe67 · 07-26-2005, 04:56 PM

GlennBrittain · 07-27-2005, 11:12 PM

I do not have an engine for this truck. I am strarting a frame up rebuild. The truck I bought for the frame did not have an engine. I have my frame bare except for the suspension and rear end. I have a 69 SWB Fleetside beater that I use for my driver, has GM Stock 350 crate, 700R4, MSD Pro Billet, and Edelbrock 1406 carb. I also have a 69 stepside 250 six, that needs to be restored. I have time to decide on the motor, unless I decide to get the LS2 crate motor, as I am sure GM will have it on sale for a limited time. I still need to get my frame finished. What suck's is I had the money put away for this project 10G's that would have finished my frame, wheels and motor but I had to use it. A sister had some money problems and wanted to sell 10 acres, which was adjacent to property I own and across the road from my house, so I bought it.

With the added cost this one may be out of reach for now, may have to settle for a cheaper engine or build my own.

farside847 · 07-28-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GlennBrittain

A sister had some money problems and wanted to sell 10 acres, which was adjacent to property I own and across the road from my house, so I bought it.

Man, I otta move. $10k would buy you a broom closet arount here...

GlennBrittain · 07-28-2005, 11:30 PM

Sounds good but you have to give up a lot of conveinences to live here. We drive 30 miles to shop at a decent grocery store. We drive 30 miles to see our family doctor. Any major medical is a trip to Tyler 1 1/2 hour drive or Houston 3 hours. We drive down a poorly maintained dirt road 1 mile to the nearest Farm to Market Road and 2 miles of which part is through the river bottom to get to US 59. However the peace and quit here is great that is untill deer season opens.
I do know what you mean about the realestate prices in CA. I had coworkers out there before I retired. When they came to Dallas, they were astounded at the homes we lived in. They even made more money than we did at the time due to the cost of living there

panhandler62 · 07-28-2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:

From what you posted, I think you can add another couple thousand by the time you add all the pulleys, accessories, motor mounts, ECU and harness. Then you get to the transmission. But yes, they are a nice engine

Go with this:
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...609-P4C53.aspx

It's about the same price, more powerful and all you'll have to add is a nice carb (should run more than $400 brand new for something killer!)

FirstGen · 07-28-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panhandler62

Go with this:
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...609-P4C53.aspx

It's about the same price, more powerful and all you'll have to add is a nice carb (should run more than $400 brand new for something killer!)

Actually it is not more powerful. Nor even close. The power potential of the LS2 is probably 150% better than the carbed ZZ4. Not to mention that the LS2 with decent exhaust will put down almost the advertised flywheel hp/tq numbers to the wheels.

From my experience ZZ4's put down about 330hp and 350tq at the wheels.

panhandler62 · 07-28-2005, 09:52 PM

To be picky... 150% more than 330 would be a bit over 800 hp.

but I grasp what you mean.

I was thinking about LS1 figures, not LS2 when I said the ZZ4 was more powerfull .. bad reading on my part. It will be, though, about half the price ready to run.

**N2TRUX** · 07-28-2005, 11:17 PM

If your set an an LS based motor, you would be miles ahead by buying a low mileage salvage motor. You can get everything you need all at one time. I bout the LS1 for my 82 Blazer that way. I still spent quit a bit modifying the computer and harness, but saved tons over buying everything seperate....

FirstGen · 07-29-2005, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panhandler62

To be picky... 150% more than 330 would be a bit over 800 hp.

but I grasp what you mean.

I was thinking about LS1 figures, not LS2 when I said the ZZ4 was more powerfull .. bad reading on my part. It will be, though, about half the price ready to run.

330 x 1.5 = 495

I guess I should have said 140%...

But yeah you could look at a math problem from different angles.

GlennBrittain · 07-29-2005, 12:16 AM

Thanks for the responses, I do have some time before I need the motor. I still have some decisions to make on the front end and I need to finish stripping my frame and get it painted. I do like the idea of the used LS1 package and the ZZ4 as both would be sufficient power for me and would save a lot of money that could be spent on the cab

thanks again

68LSS1 · 07-29-2005, 03:42 AM

I'd go with the recommendation to start shopping for pull out. You could probably find a under 40k mile complete LS1, tranny, all accessories, wiring harness, etc for around 2,500. Give or take 500. Might be able to even score one with heads and cam. This is how I bought my set up well over two years ago. I paid a little more and it has more mileage but back then there weren't all the places selling them that there is now. Shipping from the northwest to Florida was 3-400 also. I could of pulled it off the crate and set it in a stand and ran it (except for a fuel pump/tank). I will end up probably only using the wiring harness, accessories and tranny but oh well.

And by the way, stock '98 F-body's usually cranked out a little 300RWHP. This was the first year for the LS1 in them.

Custom 68 · 07-29-2005, 09:20 AM

Well as you know the lsX based motors are going to mount up differently, you may have to move some accessories around to clear the frame and all but I agree it will be a better motor. I just finished an install into my 68 it runs very strong for a "stock" motor. I did the salvage yard thing and bought a gen3 from a truck the 5.3 l motor those can be had pretty cheap. The may not be a true ls1 but they have the same architecher (spell?) and run great! you can do the same things to them as the car based ones.
good luck
Dave

68LSS1 · 07-29-2005, 01:07 PM

The 5.3's are a member of the LS1 family as is the 6.0. Most of us that have used the F-body set up have been able to clear everything (accessories) except for maby a minor frame notch for the a/c comp on the r/h side. Kits are available to move the comp up high if desired.

07-22-2005, 11:37 PM	#1
GlennBrittain Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Panola County Texas Posts: 401	Opinion's on LS2 Crate Motor Does anyone have any experiance with this engine or have installed one. This price is hard to beat, but I am really ignorant when it comes to the new motors. GM PART # 12499750 CATEGORY: Eng Asm-(shipped only to local fedex hub 4 pickup) PACK QTY: 1 CORE CHARGE: $0.00 GM LIST: $7,500.00 OUR PRICE: $5,250.00 DESCRIPTION: LS2 CRATE ENGINE (400hp) 6.0 364cu.in. This is the production 2005 LS2 corvette engine complete from intake to oilpan. This will not have a wiring harness nor ecm. NOTE* Pulleys, serpentine belts, power steering pump, a/c pump, starter, alternator and engine covers are not included with this engine.

07-22-2005, 11:45 PM	#2
Tim240Z Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: LAX area, So Cal Posts: 499	Or....drop some real coin and buy some cubic inches: http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...5-P930C53.aspx __________________ 1972 Suburban C20 454/TH700R4, eaton-corporate 4.10 (looking for 3.7) Sold: 71 Cheyenne 20 Installed a 99 5.7L L31/4L60E from Suburban 1500 (2005)

07-26-2005, 03:39 PM	#4
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	What do you have now? just rebuild the OEM. $0.02 __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

07-26-2005, 04:39 PM	#5
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,746	From what you posted, I think you can add another couple thousand by the time you add all the pulleys, accessories, motor mounts, ECU and harness. Then you get to the transmission. But yes, they are a nice engine __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

07-26-2005, 04:56 PM	#6
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07-26-2005, 01:28 PM	#3
GlennBrittain Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Panola County Texas Posts: 401	I wish I could afford that motor, it would really set off my 69. The smaller one is already over my budget. I am retired and have limited resouces.

07-27-2005, 11:12 PM	#7
GlennBrittain Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Panola County Texas Posts: 401	I do not have an engine for this truck. I am strarting a frame up rebuild. The truck I bought for the frame did not have an engine. I have my frame bare except for the suspension and rear end. I have a 69 SWB Fleetside beater that I use for my driver, has GM Stock 350 crate, 700R4, MSD Pro Billet, and Edelbrock 1406 carb. I also have a 69 stepside 250 six, that needs to be restored. I have time to decide on the motor, unless I decide to get the LS2 crate motor, as I am sure GM will have it on sale for a limited time. I still need to get my frame finished. What suck's is I had the money put away for this project 10G's that would have finished my frame, wheels and motor but I had to use it. A sister had some money problems and wanted to sell 10 acres, which was adjacent to property I own and across the road from my house, so I bought it. With the added cost this one may be out of reach for now, may have to settle for a cheaper engine or build my own.

07-28-2005, 11:30 PM	#9
GlennBrittain Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Panola County Texas Posts: 401	Sounds good but you have to give up a lot of conveinences to live here. We drive 30 miles to shop at a decent grocery store. We drive 30 miles to see our family doctor. Any major medical is a trip to Tyler 1 1/2 hour drive or Houston 3 hours. We drive down a poorly maintained dirt road 1 mile to the nearest Farm to Market Road and 2 miles of which part is through the river bottom to get to US 59. However the peace and quit here is great that is untill deer season opens. I do know what you mean about the realestate prices in CA. I had coworkers out there before I retired. When they came to Dallas, they were astounded at the homes we lived in. They even made more money than we did at the time due to the cost of living there

07-28-2005, 09:52 PM	#12
panhandler62 Java Mechanic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 6,764	To be picky... 150% more than 330 would be a bit over 800 hp. but I grasp what you mean. I was thinking about LS1 figures, not LS2 when I said the ZZ4 was more powerfull .. bad reading on my part. It will be, though, about half the price ready to run. __________________ Keith 11 Lincoln MKT -- Momma's wagon 13 G37xS -- middle age crazy car 68 C20 Fleetside -- RIP Decorating the whole town up at a cost of $27 ....

07-28-2005, 11:17 PM	#13
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	If your set an an LS based motor, you would be miles ahead by buying a low mileage salvage motor. You can get everything you need all at one time. I bout the LS1 for my 82 Blazer that way. I still spent quit a bit modifying the computer and harness, but saved tons over buying everything seperate.... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

07-29-2005, 12:16 AM	#15
GlennBrittain Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Panola County Texas Posts: 401	Thanks for the responses, I do have some time before I need the motor. I still have some decisions to make on the front end and I need to finish stripping my frame and get it painted. I do like the idea of the used LS1 package and the ZZ4 as both would be sufficient power for me and would save a lot of money that could be spent on the cab thanks again

07-29-2005, 03:42 AM	#16
68LSS1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,191	I'd go with the recommendation to start shopping for pull out. You could probably find a under 40k mile complete LS1, tranny, all accessories, wiring harness, etc for around 2,500. Give or take 500. Might be able to even score one with heads and cam. This is how I bought my set up well over two years ago. I paid a little more and it has more mileage but back then there weren't all the places selling them that there is now. Shipping from the northwest to Florida was 3-400 also. I could of pulled it off the crate and set it in a stand and ran it (except for a fuel pump/tank). I will end up probably only using the wiring harness, accessories and tranny but oh well. And by the way, stock '98 F-body's usually cranked out a little 300RWHP. This was the first year for the LS1 in them. __________________ '68 Short Step LS1/T56, Hydratech, Fatman Fabrications Stage III, Baer, Hot Rods to Hell, US Body, S&W, etc

07-29-2005, 09:20 AM	#17
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,929	Well as you know the lsX based motors are going to mount up differently, you may have to move some accessories around to clear the frame and all but I agree it will be a better motor. I just finished an install into my 68 it runs very strong for a "stock" motor. I did the salvage yard thing and bought a gen3 from a truck the 5.3 l motor those can be had pretty cheap. The may not be a true ls1 but they have the same architecher (spell?) and run great! you can do the same things to them as the car based ones. good luck Dave __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

07-29-2005, 01:07 PM	#18
68LSS1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 1,191	The 5.3's are a member of the LS1 family as is the 6.0. Most of us that have used the F-body set up have been able to clear everything (accessories) except for maby a minor frame notch for the a/c comp on the r/h side. Kits are available to move the comp up high if desired. __________________ '68 Short Step LS1/T56, Hydratech, Fatman Fabrications Stage III, Baer, Hot Rods to Hell, US Body, S&W, etc



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