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CbHeEaVsYt · 07-23-2005, 05:41 PM

how in the &*%$ do i get the governer off my truck its an 82 silverado c-10 305 with ESC pleeeeaaaasssseeeee someone help me get that damn thing outta there it governs at 85!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cb

86swb · 07-23-2005, 06:16 PM

You will be getting some help soon but I just find it hard to see why anyone would put a governer on one of these except maby keeping their son or daughter from driving too fast. Wish I could help you but did not know you could put a governer on one of our trucks. I also am courious as to what you can do and where it is. Darnest thing I heard in a while. At least it was not set at 55.

Think you are mad now. Good luck

Someone know how to help him? By the way, I really love that '57 ragtop you have for sale. Lets see, what would the payments be on $150,00 for three years.

Darn, I can not make the payments. Nice car, never had a rag top '57.

cliffsta · 07-23-2005, 08:47 PM

School busses (at least the ones my aunt drives in jersey) all have governors to keep them below the state speed limit of 65....

which is dandy, if the parkway didn't have hills that bog them down to 40 miles an hour, which is more dangerous than speeding since everyone does 90928748392 miles an hour on the effing parkway.

Now why exactly are you going over 85 miles an hour my friend? Isn't the national speed limit 70? I mean, no reason to go over 85 unless you're racing or something.

kevinr1970 · 07-25-2005, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cliffsta

Now why exactly are you going over 85 miles an hour my friend? Isn't the national speed limit 70? I mean, no reason to go over 85 unless you're racing or something.

In Idaho on the interstates its 75 and in Montana I'm not sure where they settled at, but for a few years a few years ago it was no posted limit - "reasonable and prudent". Which on an empty highway in the middle of the day in the right car could be closer to 100.
Besides, if the limit is 70 and some guy is pulling a trailer at 60 and you need to pass him how fast do you think you'll need to go to get out of the oncoming lane as fast as you can?

edman87 · 07-23-2005, 10:08 PM

Now why exactly are you going over 85 miles an hour my friend? Isn't the national speed limit 70? I mean, no reason to go over 85 unless you're racing or something.

Because he can, wait, no he can't.

Couldn't resist that 1

cliffsta · 07-24-2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by edman87

Because he can, wait, no he can't.

Couldn't resist that 1

Oh that was a good one

I needed a laugh tonight!

I wasn't tryin' to be a shmo, i was just wondering why you would care about it being governed at 85, if it was for racing or something.

'Cause I know Ol Red ain't governed at 85.....

TH350c + 2.56 rear end = nice top-end

Prerunner1982 · 07-23-2005, 10:29 PM

my 82 c10 wasnt governed at 85..the speedometer my top out at that, but i know i was doing far faster.. not only could i feel it, the speedometer needle would bounce around faster then faster i went...

75sierraclassic · 07-25-2005, 09:17 AM

I don't know about you guys but it is no fun driving the speed limit. I know my 75 GMC has seen over 100 more times than I can count. I would be one unhappy camper to be limited to 85.
Also I have never heard of a governer on a truck that old.

cliffsta · 07-25-2005, 09:20 AM

LMFAO.... well... somebody i know was sure doing 75-80 for about 15 miles down the interstate cause he was gonna be late getting home last night.....

gotta love goin' fast....

chevy_4gotten · 07-26-2005, 04:34 AM

well my 84 gmc sierra with its 82`reman 350 will go all the way around,bk 2 ,20mph after crossen the 85mph limit on its gage,So any idea how fast that is??????? my buddies mortorcycle maxed out at 147 and i left him behind before i had to slow for an old fk in the fast lane,,,,lol,,,,,,,,,,(no wonder its spuddering after a tune`up)

CbHeEaVsYt · 07-29-2005, 09:28 AM

HELLO ANYONE HERE lol so none of you genious knowledge bases know about a governor on these trucks? its starts to go like rarararara and wont let me go faster and wat fun is the frickin speed limit? lol please heelllllpppppppp gotta get rid of this thing its annoying as all hell cali truck and it has esc please help me get this thing outta here

cb

86 GMG · 07-29-2005, 11:14 AM

Well Since No One Else Has Tried To Help I Will (try) I Believe A Govoner Is Carb Related So See If There Is Anything On It That Wont Let It Open All The Way If You Find Something Like That Take It Off And See If That Works I Am Just Guessing But It Could Be That Simple

Turbo85GMC · 07-29-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CbHeEaVsYt

how in the &*%$ do i get the governer off my truck its an 82 silverado c-10 305 with ESC pleeeeaaaasssseeeee someone help me get that damn thing outta there it governs at 85!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The governor is the large iron piece in the engine compartment called the 305. You'll need to remove that to get the truck to go faster.

In all seriousness, mine has a 305 also, and it won't even get upto 85. Are you sure it's not that the rear-end gears are too steep and the engine runs out of steam at that RPM? Actually, what RPM are you hitting at 85? Does the truck bog down at that same RPM in every gear?

gchemist · 07-29-2005, 04:57 PM

My 305 will spin the speedo needle from 0 all the away around to past 85 and straight up and down.

It could go more but I was too scared to keep pushing it with the front suspension. These trucks have no governor. It's all about how you make your combo work. A little elbow grease and mods and she'll top 85 easy.

82c10 · 07-29-2005, 05:07 PM

i thought they had a governor in the tranny, i must be thinkin of another tranny

gchemist · 07-30-2005, 09:40 AM

Yes the do have a governor in the tranny. The governor controls the flow of the tranny oil based on speed. It is the main component of the RPM shift points at WOT.
They don't have a govenor at the carb to keep speed down.

magnethead · 07-30-2005, 10:24 PM

why do our trucks need governors? I know our truck is a brick, we're lucky for it to hit 65 with a 454. between having the aerodynamics of a brick and weighing more than a brick (7200 pounds curb), it IS a brick. why have a governor?

screwballl · 07-30-2005, 11:38 PM

hmmmmm it probably has an aftermarket speedo sensor that has a secondary cable/block to limit how far open the carb is opened. Usually the gov will do one of two things: 1) bog it down to slow it down to about 80 then you can speed back up.. and down and up and down.. 2) just not let anymore throttle be applied preventing any faster speed unless you're going downhill with a tailwind and don't need to floor it.
Most factory Chevy govs are like #1 (I've had at least 15 different newer cars to thier limit, usually 85 or 95mph) but aftermarkets on older vehicles liek this are usually #2. Your case may have a factory installed option being a Cali Truck (they always screwed them up there first them brought the "options" everywhere else in the states).

As a side note I finally took my "new" burb (in sig) out on the open road last week, about 80 miles round trip and with its 454 it just "floated" at 80. Even the wife said it felt like a boat at that speed because how slow it reacted to the bumps (which was weird because as a 2500 you usually feel every tiny rock). I didn't take it much faster (maybe hit 85 once or twice) but that little trip cost me around $12 in gas (of course picked up 3 4x8 sheets of underlayment). Did have fun passing a f**d going uphill going from 65-80 in a short time (LOVE that 454 ROAR!!!).

CbHeEaVsYt · 08-10-2005, 03:27 AM

it gets bogged down i have plenty of peddle left the truck has the heart of a lion for only being a 305 but i think its the damn trans but i love the 700r4 cause the low first gear and id hate to get rid of it but something is bogging it down its not that it runs outta power it has plenty left it just wont goooooooo and it pi$$es me off

cb

Truckn1 · 08-10-2005, 04:20 AM

Do you have aftermarket ignition system? The sound you are describing sounds like electronic rpm control..My MSD ignition will to this if I set it that way...I can limit the rpm at different settings. It is really a rev limiter, but in these trucks if it is set low, it will act like a governer.\
Hope this can be of some help.

rockman20 · 08-10-2005, 09:41 AM

I would be shocked to find a governer on a truck that old. Here is my theory.

I have owned a Cali car once. It was a 2.8L V-6 Chevy Citation. I loved that car and it definitely was a lot of fun to drive. It could beat a 305 powered Trans Am without a problem.

The problem I had was all of the Cali emission junk on it. The heating plate under the carb, the freakin 100+ dollar O2 sensor, etc.

So my first thought is......what's the cat like on your truck? I am thinking that it sounds like maybe a restriction in the exhaust. Have you checked the codes on the engine? Any sensor that is perhaps acting up on it?

Like I said, I don't know much about governers, I just find it hard to believe that your truck has one. I would start leaning towards exhaust restriction or faulty emission control devices.

Just me though.

86 GMG · 08-11-2005, 11:50 AM

rockman20 i think you have hit the nail on the head and as far as my carb gov. it was just a suggestion. has your tranny been rebuilt before the no faster than 85 crap started or has it been slow since you owned the truck. definatly have the exhaust checked for restriction

CbHeEaVsYt · 08-11-2005, 08:02 PM

well as far as the cat goes shhhhh i dont have one lol and i replace the exaught last year but the a$$hole only put 1 1/2 pipes on it but it is true duals and it does have a flamethrower ignition on it with quite a bit of electronics it HAD a q-jet on it bt ive got a dif carb on it and havent had it running since i put the new carb intake on it but now its too late and im just gonna take it in the garage and tear it all back down and im lowering it and got a few other plans for the winter so i just dont know as long as the thing aint electronic and i pulled all the emissions outta it so hopefully its gone....

thanks alot, cb

07-23-2005, 08:47 PM	#3
cliffsta Stepsides RULE Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,921	School busses (at least the ones my aunt drives in jersey) all have governors to keep them below the state speed limit of 65.... which is dandy, if the parkway didn't have hills that bog them down to 40 miles an hour, which is more dangerous than speeding since everyone does 90928748392 miles an hour on the effing parkway. Now why exactly are you going over 85 miles an hour my friend? Isn't the national speed limit 70? I mean, no reason to go over 85 unless you're racing or something. __________________ 1981 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe Stepside 350 V8, headers, side exhausts, 3-speed auto SOLD 1980 Chevy C10 Custum Deluxe Stepside 305 V8, Edelbrock Performer Intake, Edelbrock 1406 600CFM 4-barrel, TH350C. Bent rod. SOLD 1984 GMC Sierra Classic Longbed 6.2L Diesel SOLD 2009 Kawasaki KLX-250S too many mods for this signature 1999 Honda Accord EX 4-cylinder, 17" Motegi Wheels 215/45/17 Sumitomo tires, Tein S-Tech lowering springs, KYB GR2 shocks, Acura TL 20mm rear swaybar, debadged, blackhoused headlights, Short-Ram Intake Cardomain of the Accord

07-23-2005, 10:08 PM	#5
edman87 junk collector Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: above Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 693	Now why exactly are you going over 85 miles an hour my friend? Isn't the national speed limit 70? I mean, no reason to go over 85 unless you're racing or something. Because he can, wait, no he can't. Couldn't resist that 1 __________________ '87/89/76 K5 in progress '99 K2500 short crew '91 camaro rs '98 jeep tj '52 willys cj3a

07-23-2005, 10:29 PM	#7
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	my 82 c10 wasnt governed at 85..the speedometer my top out at that, but i know i was doing far faster.. not only could i feel it, the speedometer needle would bounce around faster then faster i went... __________________ Jon 1982 Chevy Silverado 350/th350.... RETIRED 1993 Jeep XJ 2 door(Cherokee) 4wd 4.0ltr/AX-15 (5spd)/NP231 .... Oklahoma Roll Call

07-25-2005, 09:20 AM	#9
cliffsta Stepsides RULE Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,921	LMFAO.... well... somebody i know was sure doing 75-80 for about 15 miles down the interstate cause he was gonna be late getting home last night..... gotta love goin' fast.... __________________ 1981 Chevy C10 Custom Deluxe Stepside 350 V8, headers, side exhausts, 3-speed auto SOLD 1980 Chevy C10 Custum Deluxe Stepside 305 V8, Edelbrock Performer Intake, Edelbrock 1406 600CFM 4-barrel, TH350C. Bent rod. SOLD 1984 GMC Sierra Classic Longbed 6.2L Diesel SOLD 2009 Kawasaki KLX-250S too many mods for this signature 1999 Honda Accord EX 4-cylinder, 17" Motegi Wheels 215/45/17 Sumitomo tires, Tein S-Tech lowering springs, KYB GR2 shocks, Acura TL 20mm rear swaybar, debadged, blackhoused headlights, Short-Ram Intake Cardomain of the Accord

07-29-2005, 09:28 AM	#11
CbHeEaVsYt Pick up man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: trenton mi Posts: 135	HELLO ANYONE HERE lol so none of you genious knowledge bases know about a governor on these trucks? its starts to go like rarararara and wont let me go faster and wat fun is the frickin speed limit? lol please heelllllpppppppp gotta get rid of this thing its annoying as all hell cali truck and it has esc please help me get this thing outta here cb __________________ heres sum pics of my truck 82 silverado c10 heres my baby 1990 k1500 check out this 1957 chevrolet for sale

07-23-2005, 05:41 PM	#1
CbHeEaVsYt Pick up man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: trenton mi Posts: 135	Governor Help Please how in the &*%$ do i get the governer off my truck its an 82 silverado c-10 305 with ESC pleeeeaaaasssseeeee someone help me get that damn thing outta there it governs at 85!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cb __________________ heres sum pics of my truck 82 silverado c10 heres my baby 1990 k1500 check out this 1957 chevrolet for sale

07-23-2005, 06:16 PM	#2
86swb Born a Chevy Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 10,221	You will be getting some help soon but I just find it hard to see why anyone would put a governer on one of these except maby keeping their son or daughter from driving too fast. Wish I could help you but did not know you could put a governer on one of our trucks. I also am courious as to what you can do and where it is. Darnest thing I heard in a while. At least it was not set at 55. Think you are mad now. Good luck Someone know how to help him? By the way, I really love that '57 ragtop you have for sale. Lets see, what would the payments be on $150,00 for three years. Darn, I can not make the payments. Nice car, never had a rag top '57. __________________ John or 86 (Viet Nam combat Vet-BIG RED ONE) '65-'66 1986 Chevy SWB Silverado 1984 Chevy Longbed Silverado New Kia Sportage (Wife's car and she loves it) CHEVY, American made w/pride! If you can read this, YOU NEED TO THANK A TEACHER! If you can read this in ENGLISH, PLEASE THANK A SOLDIER! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND BLESS OUR FIGHTING TROOPS Last edited by 86swb; 07-23-2005 at 06:27 PM.

07-25-2005, 09:17 AM	#8
75sierraclassic Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 186	I don't know about you guys but it is no fun driving the speed limit. I know my 75 GMC has seen over 100 more times than I can count. I would be one unhappy camper to be limited to 85. Also I have never heard of a governer on a truck that old.

07-26-2005, 04:34 AM	#10
chevy_4gotten Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 9	well my 84 gmc sierra with its 82`reman 350 will go all the way around,bk 2 ,20mph after crossen the 85mph limit on its gage,So any idea how fast that is??????? my buddies mortorcycle maxed out at 147 and i left him behind before i had to slow for an old fk in the fast lane,,,,lol,,,,,,,,,,(no wonder its spuddering after a tune`up)

07-29-2005, 11:14 AM	#12
86 GMG Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma Posts: 943	Well Since No One Else Has Tried To Help I Will (try) I Believe A Govoner Is Carb Related So See If There Is Anything On It That Wont Let It Open All The Way If You Find Something Like That Take It Off And See If That Works I Am Just Guessing But It Could Be That Simple __________________ square body trucks an addiction or an investment either way they consume all my extra time and money

07-29-2005, 04:57 PM	#14
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	My 305 will spin the speedo needle from 0 all the away around to past 85 and straight up and down. It could go more but I was too scared to keep pushing it with the front suspension. These trucks have no governor. It's all about how you make your combo work. A little elbow grease and mods and she'll top 85 easy. Last edited by gchemist; 07-29-2005 at 04:57 PM.

07-29-2005, 05:07 PM	#15
82c10 needin' money Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chickasha, Oklahoma Posts: 1,106	i thought they had a governor in the tranny, i must be thinkin of another tranny __________________ *SWB Stands for Short Wide Bed*

07-30-2005, 09:40 AM	#16
gchemist BAD BOW-Silverado XST Join Date: May 2000 Location: Senior Member from Austin, TX Posts: 6,431	Yes the do have a governor in the tranny. The governor controls the flow of the tranny oil based on speed. It is the main component of the RPM shift points at WOT. They don't have a govenor at the carb to keep speed down.

07-30-2005, 10:24 PM	#17
magnethead 7000 #'s of american IRON Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: north tx Posts: 883	why do our trucks need governors? I know our truck is a brick, we're lucky for it to hit 65 with a 454. between having the aerodynamics of a brick and weighing more than a brick (7200 pounds curb), it IS a brick. why have a governor?

07-30-2005, 11:38 PM	#18
screwballl Tonawanda 454 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Liquid Sunshine State Posts: 2,754	hmmmmm it probably has an aftermarket speedo sensor that has a secondary cable/block to limit how far open the carb is opened. Usually the gov will do one of two things: 1) bog it down to slow it down to about 80 then you can speed back up.. and down and up and down.. 2) just not let anymore throttle be applied preventing any faster speed unless you're going downhill with a tailwind and don't need to floor it. Most factory Chevy govs are like #1 (I've had at least 15 different newer cars to thier limit, usually 85 or 95mph) but aftermarkets on older vehicles liek this are usually #2. Your case may have a factory installed option being a Cali Truck (they always screwed them up there first them brought the "options" everywhere else in the states). As a side note I finally took my "new" burb (in sig) out on the open road last week, about 80 miles round trip and with its 454 it just "floated" at 80. Even the wife said it felt like a boat at that speed because how slow it reacted to the bumps (which was weird because as a 2500 you usually feel every tiny rock). I didn't take it much faster (maybe hit 85 once or twice) but that little trip cost me around $12 in gas (of course picked up 3 4x8 sheets of underlayment). Did have fun passing a f**d going uphill going from 65-80 in a short time (LOVE that 454 ROAR!!!). __________________ 91 Chevy Suburban Tonawanda 454 R2500 - SOLD!!! 04 Dodge Durango 5.7L Hemi 2WD, 24K miles (as of July 2011) In the past 30 years about 90% of Fords are still on the road, the other 10% made it home. -------------------



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08-10-2005, 03:27 AM	#19
CbHeEaVsYt Pick up man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: trenton mi Posts: 135	it gets bogged down i have plenty of peddle left the truck has the heart of a lion for only being a 305 but i think its the damn trans but i love the 700r4 cause the low first gear and id hate to get rid of it but something is bogging it down its not that it runs outta power it has plenty left it just wont goooooooo and it pi$$es me off cb __________________ heres sum pics of my truck 82 silverado c10 heres my baby 1990 k1500 check out this 1957 chevrolet for sale

08-10-2005, 04:20 AM	#20
Truckn1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lodi, CA Posts: 6	Do you have aftermarket ignition system? The sound you are describing sounds like electronic rpm control..My MSD ignition will to this if I set it that way...I can limit the rpm at different settings. It is really a rev limiter, but in these trucks if it is set low, it will act like a governer.\ Hope this can be of some help.

08-10-2005, 09:41 AM	#21
rockman20 "The dude abides" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Dakota Posts: 472	I would be shocked to find a governer on a truck that old. Here is my theory. I have owned a Cali car once. It was a 2.8L V-6 Chevy Citation. I loved that car and it definitely was a lot of fun to drive. It could beat a 305 powered Trans Am without a problem. The problem I had was all of the Cali emission junk on it. The heating plate under the carb, the freakin 100+ dollar O2 sensor, etc. So my first thought is......what's the cat like on your truck? I am thinking that it sounds like maybe a restriction in the exhaust. Have you checked the codes on the engine? Any sensor that is perhaps acting up on it? Like I said, I don't know much about governers, I just find it hard to believe that your truck has one. I would start leaning towards exhaust restriction or faulty emission control devices. Just me though. __________________ RockMan 1993 Chevy Silverado C3500 1 ton dually 1994 Honda Civic 1969 Oldsmobile Cutlass S 1953 IH Farmall Super M New to the fleet: 1992 Subaru Loyal

08-11-2005, 11:50 AM	#22
86 GMG Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma Posts: 943	rockman20 i think you have hit the nail on the head and as far as my carb gov. it was just a suggestion. has your tranny been rebuilt before the no faster than 85 crap started or has it been slow since you owned the truck. definatly have the exhaust checked for restriction __________________ square body trucks an addiction or an investment either way they consume all my extra time and money

08-11-2005, 08:02 PM	#23
CbHeEaVsYt Pick up man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: trenton mi Posts: 135	well as far as the cat goes shhhhh i dont have one lol and i replace the exaught last year but the a$$hole only put 1 1/2 pipes on it but it is true duals and it does have a flamethrower ignition on it with quite a bit of electronics it HAD a q-jet on it bt ive got a dif carb on it and havent had it running since i put the new carb intake on it but now its too late and im just gonna take it in the garage and tear it all back down and im lowering it and got a few other plans for the winter so i just dont know as long as the thing aint electronic and i pulled all the emissions outta it so hopefully its gone.... thanks alot, cb __________________ heres sum pics of my truck 82 silverado c10 heres my baby 1990 k1500 check out this 1957 chevrolet for sale

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