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I am getting a 69 short frame that I will be putting my 71 stuff on. However, the 71 is a leaf rear. Does the 69 frame have the holes for the leaf mounts? Has anybody done this swap? Got pictures? How about pics of a 69 frame, rear section, side view.
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Don't have pictures and not sure about the holes, but the frames are the same. Even if you have to drill the holes, it shouldn't be a big deal. You can make a template off your old frame if you need it.
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The Holes should be there! Just use 8 grade hardware. The frame rails were mass produced to accomidate either suspension set up. The coil spring set up is close to a Nascar set up and better for hot rods while the leaf spring is more stable with a load or when towing.
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I could prob get some detailed pics to show what I'm referring to if my description was clear as mud.
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youve got to take the bumpstop bracket off,im pretty sure its on the outside of the rails
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its all about the +6 inches
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I just have to ask....WHY would you want to go to leaf springs???
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The reason for the switch is this. The 71 is a long bed with leaf springs and I want a short bed. The 69 frame is stripped bare which is ok, since the 71 is a driveable truck and I am going to put the body on the short frame. I have located a bed already so I just need to switch my stuff over. Other than the leaf spring mounting and the breake lines, it should be pretty straight forward.
I am getting this frame for a good price. (thanks huggercst!) I have located a short coil frame but it has a 6 lug rear and is way more than what I am buying this frame for. I will also be pulling a trailer with this truck and the leafs will definately help out in that area. Scoti- pics would be great. You are correct about the beads on the frame rail on each side of the leaf bracket.
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Gotcha. Hopefully everyting you need to transfer it over is there already
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I drive the 71 now, so swapping should only be a weekend thing that my son and I can do. I will pull the front clip as a unit. Pull the cab. Pull the motor and trans and go ahead and replace the gaskets on the motor with FelPro Permadry gaskets (leaks now). Then pull the bed. I will just unbolt the front cross member and bolt in under the 69. Then mount the rear. Then swap over the brake lines and wiring. After that, its' motor/trans, cab, clip and mount the fuel cell then put the bed on.
![]() The 71 is in awesome shape except for the bed and the ORANGE paint... It has a speed warning inst panel in it. I am trying to figure out how to get it working (missing cable and harness for it) or may trade it for a tach dash. ![]()
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I did this swap and everything was not there. I had to drill many holes. This could be because I started with a 72 GMC leaf long-bed and swapped everything over to a 69 Chevy coil short-bed. I don't know enough about these trucks to say for sure. Just used the old frame as a pattern to measure where all the holes would need to be.
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How did it turn out? Got pics?
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I found a picture on this computer...
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I dont want to hijack the thread but i'm curious; how hard is it to go the other way and convert a leaf frame over to coils? Are the mounting points for the trailing arms on the leaf frame crossmember?
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I think the mounting points are there. There are some holes on the cross member.
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My frame has the 'beads' SCOTI was talking about. Pretty sure coil truck do not have those reinforcement's.
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The leafs are great when your hauling stuff or towing and GM made an optional leaf spring helper to add to that (their getting hard to find now though) so I think your plans are good for what your going to use your truck for.... on the other hand my short fleet with leafs (no load) kicks like a mule going over speed bumps or uneven pavement....
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Like a mule...
It's always something isn't it?...
![]() Good ride, not so good for hauling.... Rough ride, good for hauling.... If I had a short coil frame with a 5 lug rear, that would be ideal. But I don't. So, I either have to modify a coil frame to accept my rear, OR, cut the long frame I have now, down to short bed length.... Since the deal I had working for a frame just fell apart, I am now looking at cutting my frame down.
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