I'M IN TROUBLE! Got new engine/tranny for my truck! - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

shifty · 08-10-2005, 09:33 AM

You know. I'm scared and so excited at the same time.

I just won my new engine on eBay. I wasn't expecting to win. I bid 50¢ over the starting bid 3 hours before the auction was over. I decided: if I get sniped, it was not meant to be; if I win, it is meant to be.

Here's a link to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7991106819

The description:
"You are bidding on a complete takeout LS1 engine/transmission combination from a 2001 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 with only 47000 miles (title provided for verification at buyer request). If you have been looking for a setup like this you will not find a better one anywhere. Damage to the vehicle was not severe and the engine/transmission are in perfect running condition. This is the same engine found in 2001-2002 Camaro Z28, SS, Trans Am, WS6, 1997-2004 Corvette and 2004 GTO. Water pump, alternator, power steering pump, pedal assembly (if requested), upgraded Z06 slave cylinder, motor mounts, A/C compressor, EGR, starter, engine wiring harness, LS6 intake, exhaust manifolds, MAF, throttle body and PCM. This combination has the performance T-56 manual 6 speed transmission. This combination is perfect as a replacement or for anyone looking for a nice swap into their hot rod. A similar GM crate setup with all these accessories could easily exceed $9000+ so this is a great deal. Feel free to ask any questions about this setup. Both the engine and transmission were fully inspected after removal and found to be in good condition. When shipped engine/transmission will be connected and ready to drop in your vehicle."

I bought it from a place called "Central Florida Motor Works"
My contact's email: m1a2drvr (-at-) yahoo.com
He goes by 'spacecoastmotorworks' on eBay
I'll report back to everyone when the package arrives and let everyone know how it goes.

Some pictures:

shifty · 08-10-2005, 09:36 AM

PS - if anyone knows some things I should ask for in addition, please let me know.

Things I know I need:
Factory airbox (for now)
Electric fans setup
Clutch pedal and other hydraulic stuff

I'll need to have the custom driveshaft made. Can't ask the seller for that though

shifty · 08-10-2005, 09:44 AM

I guess I should ask for Cruise Control....(might as well)

67ChevyRedneck · 08-10-2005, 09:57 AM

I AM JEALOUS. I want a WS6

Ask for everything under the sun! If it's under the hood, take it, especially the throttle and pedal. Now your gonna need a blazer tank with an electric fuel pump

I don't see the shifter for the tranny, make sure they toss that in! Not sure where it is on the car, but make sure you get the O2 sensors. I think it may be that thing on the pipe coming off the manifold, but some vehicles it's lower.

**Palf70Step** · 08-10-2005, 10:01 AM

Congrats Shifty. Looks like another 250 bites the dust

*dtlilly* · 08-10-2005, 10:43 AM

You will want the OBDII connector, wiring and the main computers from under the dash.

bowtie · 08-10-2005, 10:58 AM

sweet deal, I use to own a 99 camaro ss and it had a ls1. I sold it to my sister and she ended up (3 years ago) blowing the motor. Man, was she mad at me, she figured I sold her POS because she couldn't find an engine in Canada. It ended up costing her 15 g's for another engine.

I remember thinking to myself, what a great set up the ls1/6spd would be in the 55 or PU.

Good score

FirstGen · 08-10-2005, 12:16 PM

Yes! Another converted to the dark side!

shifty · 08-10-2005, 12:41 PM

Here's one I gotta figure out ....

I think the LS6 intake uses forced induction, right? How will I work around that one? I can't really pipe anything from the front grille. Aarrggghhh!

**CPNE** · 08-10-2005, 12:58 PM

Isn't that more than you paid for the truck?

Oh wait a minute, the $150 I paid for a 292 is more than I paid for the truck its intended for too.

Carry on.

mplex2000 · 08-10-2005, 03:01 PM

Hehe, I thought you meant real forced induction and couldn't figure out what you were talking about (I don't remember any super or turbo charged LSx motors stock!). All you need is a pipe and conical filter to attach to the throttle body, I don't think it matters if it came from a ram air car or not.

-Chris

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Originally Posted by shifty

Here's one I gotta figure out ....

I think the LS6 intake uses forced induction, right? How will I work around that one? I can't really pipe anything from the front grille. Aarrggghhh!

FirstGen · 08-10-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shifty

Here's one I gotta figure out ....

I think the LS6 intake uses forced induction, right? How will I work around that one? I can't really pipe anything from the front grille. Aarrggghhh!

No it doesn't need any kind of ram air. All 2001 and 2002 F-bodies recieved the LS6 intake. All you need is a better cam to take advantage of the top end on that motor especially with the LS6 intake. Look for a mid to high 22X/22X with 570<600 lift range and you should really wake it up. You would be alot better off doing it now when the motor is out. A smaller but great cam is the 02+ Z06 cam/springs. I can get those for 200 shipped to you with very low milage, in the 2-8K range.

krue · 08-10-2005, 01:21 PM

Looks like fun.

mocwon · 08-10-2005, 01:59 PM

That'd be a great setup for say.......... a 68-69 Camaro or Nova or any rod for that matter.

Deuce · 08-10-2005, 02:01 PM

I think Painless is making a complete computer/wiring harness for this set-up??

Russell · 08-10-2005, 03:17 PM

Take a look at the dual speed electric fans from a 3.8 Ford Taurus, they almost bolt right in, have a good shroud, and with the dual speed fans, they'll cool that V8 real well.

boraxman · 08-10-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Take a look at the dual speed electric fans from a 3.8 Ford Taurus, they almost bolt right in, have a good shroud, and with the dual speed fans, they'll cool that V8 real well.

Does it look like this one? Thanks.

FirstGen · 08-10-2005, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russell

Take a look at the dual speed electric fans from a 3.8 Ford Taurus, they almost bolt right in, have a good shroud, and with the dual speed fans, they'll cool that V8 real well.

I used the factory F-body LS1 fans. I would highly reccomend them if you can get them. They only go for around a hundred bucks used.

Project1970 · 08-11-2005, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FirstGen

I used the factory F-body LS1 fans. I would highly reccomend them if you can get them. They only go for around a hundred bucks used.

Yeah, and they fit great, too.

Don't worry about the stock airbox, so long as you have the MAF - the stock one really doesn't (IMO) work very well in our engine bays. I used the inlet elbow from a 2004 GTO, put that directly on the TB, with the MAF on the other end, and a K&N directly on the MAF.

Fuel...I don't know if the '01 uses it, but the '00 mine is from used a 'returnless' fuel rail at the engine, so your regulator should be somewhere else in the system. I used a GM combination filter/regulator (it's for either the '97 or '98 Corvette, I don't recall at the moment) to take care of this. Also, I'm using the stock tank, with an external Walbro GSL392 mounted on the framerail.

shifty · 08-10-2005, 03:45 PM

Thanks for the tips guys, and please keep 'em coming.

The ebayer I bought it from is taking a little while getting back to me, so I'm getting a little nervous. :\ All I want to know is calculation on shipping and to get another bill statement.

Jim_PA · 08-10-2005, 03:46 PM

How are you doing the fuel tank/pump setup?

shifty · 08-10-2005, 03:52 PM

I'm still not sure about that, Jim. I know I have a couple of options. Most people I've been looking at are either using a blazer tank + in-tank fuel pump or a fuel cell with a fuel pump on the framerail. I don't know which is better, how many gpm fuel pump I'll need, how far from the tank an external unit would need to be, whether I'd need two pumps, etc.

I guess that's just one of those things I'll hafta tackle when I get there. This is not going to be a quick install - I expect it to take at least 3-6 months to complete, whether I like it or not.

The fun things to figure out for me will probably be:
- What position to put the engine in + custom tranny x-member construction
- Fuel delivery (and return? i think these engines have a bypass or overflow or something?)
- The pedals and their action (gas and hyrdraulic clutch, gas pedal is reversed action or whatever)
- Cooling setup (electric fans, radiator)
- Wiring and programming
- Getting new gauges
- Getting the new driveshaft built

These are all things I'm not too clear on right now, and I've still got to get clear on. I guess the important thing is I've got the setup in wait...so I gotta focus on getting it home.

bagged91 · 08-10-2005, 08:23 PM

Lucky Stiff... I'm jealous

Seriously, good score.

jhwkns · 08-10-2005, 08:36 PM

Sweet!.... So the I 250/three speed doesn't have the charm it used to? You're gonna love the T-56.

jamal · 08-11-2005, 12:57 AM

dont forget engine mount adapters. the ls1 has different mount locations

08-10-2005, 09:33 AM	#1
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	I'M IN TROUBLE! Got new engine/tranny for my truck! You know. I'm scared and so excited at the same time. I just won my new engine on eBay. I wasn't expecting to win. I bid 50¢ over the starting bid 3 hours before the auction was over. I decided: if I get sniped, it was not meant to be; if I win, it is meant to be. Here's a link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7991106819 The description: "You are bidding on a complete takeout LS1 engine/transmission combination from a 2001 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 with only 47000 miles (title provided for verification at buyer request). If you have been looking for a setup like this you will not find a better one anywhere. Damage to the vehicle was not severe and the engine/transmission are in perfect running condition. This is the same engine found in 2001-2002 Camaro Z28, SS, Trans Am, WS6, 1997-2004 Corvette and 2004 GTO. Water pump, alternator, power steering pump, pedal assembly (if requested), upgraded Z06 slave cylinder, motor mounts, A/C compressor, EGR, starter, engine wiring harness, LS6 intake, exhaust manifolds, MAF, throttle body and PCM. This combination has the performance T-56 manual 6 speed transmission. This combination is perfect as a replacement or for anyone looking for a nice swap into their hot rod. A similar GM crate setup with all these accessories could easily exceed $9000+ so this is a great deal. Feel free to ask any questions about this setup. Both the engine and transmission were fully inspected after removal and found to be in good condition. When shipped engine/transmission will be connected and ready to drop in your vehicle." I bought it from a place called "Central Florida Motor Works" My contact's email: m1a2drvr (-at-) yahoo.com He goes by 'spacecoastmotorworks' on eBay I'll report back to everyone when the package arrives and let everyone know how it goes. Some pictures: Attached Images __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM. Last edited by shifty; 08-11-2005 at 02:29 PM.

08-10-2005, 09:36 AM	#2
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	PS - if anyone knows some things I should ask for in addition, please let me know. Things I know I need: Factory airbox (for now) Electric fans setup Clutch pedal and other hydraulic stuff I'll need to have the custom driveshaft made. Can't ask the seller for that though __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

08-10-2005, 09:44 AM	#3
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	I guess I should ask for Cruise Control....(might as well) __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

08-10-2005, 09:57 AM	#4
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	I AM JEALOUS. I want a WS6 Ask for everything under the sun! If it's under the hood, take it, especially the throttle and pedal. Now your gonna need a blazer tank with an electric fuel pump I don't see the shifter for the tranny, make sure they toss that in! Not sure where it is on the car, but make sure you get the O2 sensors. I think it may be that thing on the pipe coming off the manifold, but some vehicles it's lower. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 08-10-2005 at 10:20 AM.

08-10-2005, 10:01 AM	#5
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,274	Congrats Shifty. Looks like another 250 bites the dust __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

08-10-2005, 10:43 AM	#6
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	You will want the OBDII connector, wiring and the main computers from under the dash.

08-10-2005, 10:58 AM	#7
bowtie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 1,050	sweet deal, I use to own a 99 camaro ss and it had a ls1. I sold it to my sister and she ended up (3 years ago) blowing the motor. Man, was she mad at me, she figured I sold her POS because she couldn't find an engine in Canada. It ended up costing her 15 g's for another engine. I remember thinking to myself, what a great set up the ls1/6spd would be in the 55 or PU. Good score __________________ ~70 GMCprostreet swb 396/700r NOS 575 hp "the Brick" ~72 chev swb w/68 front clip "GM Millenium corvette yellow" I use and accept Paypal

08-10-2005, 12:16 PM	#8
FirstGen Just Don't Stop! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 1,239	Yes! Another converted to the dark side! __________________ 1968 C10 build in process TT LSA/6L90e/9"

08-10-2005, 12:41 PM	#9
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Here's one I gotta figure out .... I think the LS6 intake uses forced induction, right? How will I work around that one? I can't really pipe anything from the front grille. Aarrggghhh! __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

08-10-2005, 12:58 PM	#10
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,662	Isn't that more than you paid for the truck? Oh wait a minute, the $150 I paid for a 292 is more than I paid for the truck its intended for too. Carry on. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

08-10-2005, 01:21 PM	#13
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Looks like fun. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

08-10-2005, 01:59 PM	#14
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08-10-2005, 02:01 PM	#15
Deuce Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Calgary, Alberta,Canada Posts: 1,595	I think Painless is making a complete computer/wiring harness for this set-up?? __________________ I know what your thinking.......I have ESPN. Sometimes it's easier to do things the hard way. Fesler Built 1968 Chevy C10....Must resist the urge to mess with it!!

08-10-2005, 03:17 PM	#16
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	Take a look at the dual speed electric fans from a 3.8 Ford Taurus, they almost bolt right in, have a good shroud, and with the dual speed fans, they'll cool that V8 real well. __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

08-10-2005, 03:45 PM	#20
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Thanks for the tips guys, and please keep 'em coming. The ebayer I bought it from is taking a little while getting back to me, so I'm getting a little nervous. :\ All I want to know is calculation on shipping and to get another bill statement. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.



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08-10-2005, 03:46 PM	#21
Jim_PA Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: PA Posts: 2,696	How are you doing the fuel tank/pump setup?

08-10-2005, 03:52 PM	#22
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	I'm still not sure about that, Jim. I know I have a couple of options. Most people I've been looking at are either using a blazer tank + in-tank fuel pump or a fuel cell with a fuel pump on the framerail. I don't know which is better, how many gpm fuel pump I'll need, how far from the tank an external unit would need to be, whether I'd need two pumps, etc. I guess that's just one of those things I'll hafta tackle when I get there. This is not going to be a quick install - I expect it to take at least 3-6 months to complete, whether I like it or not. The fun things to figure out for me will probably be: - What position to put the engine in + custom tranny x-member construction - Fuel delivery (and return? i think these engines have a bypass or overflow or something?) - The pedals and their action (gas and hyrdraulic clutch, gas pedal is reversed action or whatever) - Cooling setup (electric fans, radiator) - Wiring and programming - Getting new gauges - Getting the new driveshaft built These are all things I'm not too clear on right now, and I've still got to get clear on. I guess the important thing is I've got the setup in wait...so I gotta focus on getting it home. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM. Last edited by shifty; 08-10-2005 at 03:53 PM.

08-10-2005, 08:23 PM	#23
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08-10-2005, 08:36 PM	#24
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08-11-2005, 12:57 AM	#25
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