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**swervin ervin** · 09-07-2005, 10:49 PM

Thinking very strongly about ordering one of these kits. It's Billet Specialties Serpentine Conversion set. Comes complete with eveything you see in the pic. Only pulleys and brackets, no alternator or PS pump of course. I already have their valve covers, oil filler cap, breather, PCV valve, thermostat housing, PS pump cap and radiator cap.

Since they quit requiring emissions sniffer inspections here after this year and I can get it inspected anywhere in the state, I have already ditched all the emissions crap. I swapped out my Edelbrock Performer EGR intake for a Performer RPM. Swapped out my Edelbrock TES emission headers for some Hooker long tubes. Also am in the process of redoing the exhaust without any cats. I have been out of the loop with my truck now for too long. I got sort of down on everything with it. Don't know why, just did. Haven't been hanging out in here either as everyone knows. I guess I'm buying new stuff for it to make me get back into the groove in a way. Anyway, I love shiney stuff. Have been eyeing this kit for awhile now. I can finally take the plunge and get it since I don't have a A.I.R. pump to worry about.

Would you buy it if you could? It's expensive but heck, what isn't anymore? Besides, it's only money. I can't take it with me with I croak.

I've got my mouse on the submit button ready to click.

bigarmzz · 09-07-2005, 10:54 PM

two words man

(i'd do it if i wasnt so tight)

bigblock73 · 09-07-2005, 11:06 PM

That does look nice Mike, and it would match everything else you already have. I personally don't like that much shiny stuff, but if you like it thats all that counts.

I think Airmale just got a similar setup off Ebay for super cheap, maybe the person he bought his from has more?

Russell · 09-07-2005, 11:21 PM

What size are your cats, and how much? I'm getting the feeling that we'll be getting emissions here soon, and I wouldn't mind doing my part. Besides, my 2.5 inch pipes are way too loud, lol

low 84 · 09-07-2005, 11:28 PM

looks pretty much like a copy of the kit that march has had for years. i've had the march setup on mine for 2 years. i love it and payed alot for it but would do it again. i went with a black powdercoated alternator and black p.s. pump so it wouldn't be over done in shineyness. i have the whole kit, p.s. pump just wasn't on it this pic.

454HO · 09-07-2005, 11:53 PM

That is not a true serpentine because it uses two belts. Yes, they are sepentine style ribbed belts.

Check out Zoops. They have a true serpentine conversion for less than $470.

boxrodz · 09-07-2005, 11:49 PM

I'd click on mouse button.

As you pointed out and as Jeff said, it would keep the theme of your other engine accessories. But, more polishing, eh? Billet Specialties stuff is nice. It's somewhat expensive, but cheaper that Vinage Air's Frontrunner.

But, does that mean that you would have to swap out your TTs for BSs wheels.

79Silv4x4 · 09-07-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by swervin ervin

Thinking very strongly about ordering one of these kits. It's Billet Specialties Serpentine Conversion set. Comes complete with eveything you see in the pic. Would you buy it if you could? It's expensive but heck, what isn't anymore? Besides, it's only money. I can't take it with me with I croak.

I've got my mouse on the submit button ready to click.

Do I see two belts or have I been drinking too much?

**N2TRUX** · 09-07-2005, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 79Silv4x4

Do I see two belts or have I been drinking too much?

Yeah most of these systems run two belts. If they ran a single belt they would have to run idler pullies and a belt tensioner. The dual belt alows them to be tightened the old fashion way. It keeps things simple....

79Silv4x4 · 09-08-2005, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Yeah most of these systems run two belts. If they ran a single belt they would have to run idler pullies and a belt tensioner. The dual belt alows them to be tightened the old fashion way. It keeps things simple....

Okay, forgive me but I thought serpentine applied to a one belt system???

**N2TRUX** · 09-07-2005, 11:56 PM

Mike those do look good. I considered one of their systems for my 77 but changed my mind since they aren't coated. I looks at the March system too because it is coated. I finally settled for a set of chrome brackets from Bills Hot Rod shop. They aren't as pretty as the ones you posted but they sure will be less work.

BTW- Welcome back! I'm glad to see you get motivated on your truck again....

79BIG10 · 09-08-2005, 02:01 AM

PRESS THE SUBMIT BUTTON MIKE!!! LOL!! Glad to see you back on here

I wuold definately get it as it goes with the whole scheme of your engine bay. I think it would be a perfect match. I also like that they are seperate belts and not a single one. If one thing goes out then you're screwed on the side of the road. Definately get that one

AirMale · 09-08-2005, 08:03 AM

Just do it! I also bought a rebuit saginaw pump for $40 that March recomends. Got mine for $420 shipped

low 84 · 09-08-2005, 08:14 AM

if the B.S. kit isn't coated i would pass on it, it would be a huge pita to keep those things polished. the march kit is clear powdercoated, a quick wipe with a rag and it looks like new

Gregsmx · 09-08-2005, 08:31 AM

It sounds like you have already considered the Vintage Air System, and it probably is a bit more expensive, but I have to tell you, I love my set up. It is a single belt, and it does have an idler pulley, I have not seen any problems with that. It's easy to set up, and also very compact, as the technology is reverse engineered from the hotrod industry in which there is not alot of front end room.

Good luck upgrading to either of these systems, they are terrific.

LOHRTBT · 09-08-2005, 10:52 AM

Hey Mike!! You should do it to spark the fire back in your heart for your truck.

Do it for me!! lol I will live vicariously through you lol!!

bigblock73 · 09-08-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LOHRTBT

I will live vicariously through you lol!!

You gatta help pay for parts then!

Crush · 09-08-2005, 02:01 PM

I' right there with you Mike. This is the next "big" item on the To-Buy list, I have been looking at the March, BS and Vintage full serpentine systems. They are all about the same $$ but am leaning towards the March system due to it being coated.

But yeah....click the button man!

corn · 09-08-2005, 06:27 PM

I like the 2 belt system, just for the simple fact that you wouldnt have to change your waterpump to the serpentine style (reverse rotation).

**swervin ervin** · 09-08-2005, 06:35 PM

Hey guys. Thanks for the replies. After posting this last night, I couldn't take the wait. I clicked the submit button.

These are clear powder coated or else I wouldn't have bought them. I have too damn much polished billet to keep clean as it is. I absolutely love polished billet stuff as to me it doesn't look cheap like chrome. Just a personal preference.

One thing that kept me away from March stuff is it being a machine finish instead of polished. Now I can't wait until they get here. I feel like a kid in a candy store. Feels good to have the fire back again. Last night just for the heck of it, I put a kit in my Edelbrock Q-jet. Didn't need it, just felt like doing it before it did need it. This is the way I used to be. Do stuff to the truck for the fun of it instead of doing it because I had to.

Mike

**N2TRUX** · 09-08-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swervin ervin

.... This is the way I used to be. Do stuff to the truck for the fun of it instead of doing it because I had to.....

Welcome back bro....

matthufham · 09-08-2005, 10:29 PM

as only 1 other person stated, if it's a true serp setup, you need a reverse rotation water pump.

C&C Chevy · 09-08-2005, 10:52 PM

Welcome back, Mike!

Looks like a great setup and I can't wait for the pics.

1987 Shortwide · 09-08-2005, 10:51 PM

I win in the simplicity dept. LOL

bigblock73 · 09-08-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987 Shortwide

I win in the simplicity dept. LOL

I'm a close second...I have painted Alan Grove brackets as well.

09-07-2005, 10:49 PM	#1
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	I'm in love Thinking very strongly about ordering one of these kits. It's Billet Specialties Serpentine Conversion set. Comes complete with eveything you see in the pic. Only pulleys and brackets, no alternator or PS pump of course. I already have their valve covers, oil filler cap, breather, PCV valve, thermostat housing, PS pump cap and radiator cap. Since they quit requiring emissions sniffer inspections here after this year and I can get it inspected anywhere in the state, I have already ditched all the emissions crap. I swapped out my Edelbrock Performer EGR intake for a Performer RPM. Swapped out my Edelbrock TES emission headers for some Hooker long tubes. Also am in the process of redoing the exhaust without any cats. I have been out of the loop with my truck now for too long. I got sort of down on everything with it. Don't know why, just did. Haven't been hanging out in here either as everyone knows. I guess I'm buying new stuff for it to make me get back into the groove in a way. Anyway, I love shiney stuff. Have been eyeing this kit for awhile now. I can finally take the plunge and get it since I don't have a A.I.R. pump to worry about. Would you buy it if you could? It's expensive but heck, what isn't anymore? Besides, it's only money. I can't take it with me with I croak. I've got my mouse on the submit button ready to click. Attached Images __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

09-07-2005, 10:54 PM	#2
bigarmzz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elkins, West Virginia Posts: 2,542	two words man (i'd do it if i wasnt so tight) __________________ 1987 350 TBI lowered 5/7

09-07-2005, 11:06 PM	#3
bigblock73 yeller Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 13,824	That does look nice Mike, and it would match everything else you already have. I personally don't like that much shiny stuff, but if you like it thats all that counts. I think Airmale just got a similar setup off Ebay for super cheap, maybe the person he bought his from has more? __________________ Jeff 73-87.com 73-87.com Facebook page 73-87 cab corner 6x9 speaker brackets for sale 67-72 cab corner speaker brackets for sale 47-54 cab corner speaker brackets for sale

09-07-2005, 11:21 PM	#4
Russell Professional Grade Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta Posts: 7,915	What size are your cats, and how much? I'm getting the feeling that we'll be getting emissions here soon, and I wouldn't mind doing my part. Besides, my 2.5 inch pipes are way too loud, lol __________________ 1995 Chevrolet 2 Door Tahoe (6.6L LBZ Duramax / ZF6 / NP241 with 1 ton solid axle swap)

09-07-2005, 11:28 PM	#5
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	looks pretty much like a copy of the kit that march has had for years. i've had the march setup on mine for 2 years. i love it and payed alot for it but would do it again. i went with a black powdercoated alternator and black p.s. pump so it wouldn't be over done in shineyness. i have the whole kit, p.s. pump just wasn't on it this pic. Attached Images __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's Last edited by low 84; 09-07-2005 at 11:34 PM.

09-07-2005, 11:53 PM	#6
454HO Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,223	That is not a true serpentine because it uses two belts. Yes, they are sepentine style ribbed belts. Check out Zoops. They have a true serpentine conversion for less than $470. __________________ - Greg

09-07-2005, 11:49 PM	#7
boxrodz Until Seventy Times Seven Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Rocky Mountain Front Range Posts: 1,301	I'd click on mouse button. As you pointed out and as Jeff said, it would keep the theme of your other engine accessories. But, more polishing, eh? Billet Specialties stuff is nice. It's somewhat expensive, but cheaper that Vinage Air's Frontrunner. But, does that mean that you would have to swap out your TTs for BSs wheels. __________________ boxRODz 1983 C10 SWB Fleetside When two halves is gone, there's nuthin left. Two nothings is nuthin. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nothings is a whole nuthin...

09-07-2005, 11:56 PM	#11
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Mike those do look good. I considered one of their systems for my 77 but changed my mind since they aren't coated. I looks at the March system too because it is coated. I finally settled for a set of chrome brackets from Bills Hot Rod shop. They aren't as pretty as the ones you posted but they sure will be less work. BTW- Welcome back! I'm glad to see you get motivated on your truck again.... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

09-08-2005, 02:01 AM	#12
79BIG10 I'm back with 2nd truck! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 3,774	PRESS THE SUBMIT BUTTON MIKE!!! LOL!! Glad to see you back on here I wuold definately get it as it goes with the whole scheme of your engine bay. I think it would be a perfect match. I also like that they are seperate belts and not a single one. If one thing goes out then you're screwed on the side of the road. Definately get that one __________________ 1979 Chevrolet Bonanza Big10 "Tootsie Roll" 1985 Chevrolet Silverado (wife's) Member of the Southern Bowties Club "Don't underestimate how sexy a fat man who drinks to excess can be." Homer Simpson

09-08-2005, 08:03 AM	#13
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	Just do it! I also bought a rebuit saginaw pump for $40 that March recomends. Got mine for $420 shipped Attached Images __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

09-08-2005, 08:14 AM	#14
low 84 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,144	if the B.S. kit isn't coated i would pass on it, it would be a huge pita to keep those things polished. the march kit is clear powdercoated, a quick wipe with a rag and it looks like new __________________ '51 F100, backhalf with a narrowed 9 and coil overs, 18.5" mickeys, monte front clip, +400" sbc in the works '05 1500 Crew Cab RIP '84 swb 5/7 drop, solid cammed 408 w/ fully ported dart heads, th350 w/ 10 inch hughes, 12 bolt w/ 3.73 richmonds and a locker '80 swb 4x4 in progress: 7" lift, 350 th350/np205, d44 and 1.5" ORD tie rod, 14BFF w/discs , armored diff covers, 40" MTR's

09-08-2005, 08:31 AM	#15
Gregsmx Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Antonio Tx Posts: 338	It sounds like you have already considered the Vintage Air System, and it probably is a bit more expensive, but I have to tell you, I love my set up. It is a single belt, and it does have an idler pulley, I have not seen any problems with that. It's easy to set up, and also very compact, as the technology is reverse engineered from the hotrod industry in which there is not alot of front end room. Good luck upgrading to either of these systems, they are terrific. Attached Images __________________ '75 Blazer RAT 4X4 "BLAZIN" - Custom frame off Here's the website I'm uploading pics to: Greg's frame off project Last edited by Gregsmx; 09-08-2005 at 08:43 AM.

09-08-2005, 10:52 AM	#16
LOHRTBT BeWarE tHe eViL CrAnkTOe! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Yukon, OK Posts: 3,605	Hey Mike!! You should do it to spark the fire back in your heart for your truck. Do it for me!! lol I will live vicariously through you lol!! __________________ ~Dave~ You can call me Mike, Mike Oxlong - 1986 Chevy SWB - Stock for now - *1986 Chevy Custom SWB* *Stolen 6/26/05* - 1985 Chevy SWB SOLD - 1999 T/A Some mods www.cardomain.com/id/ramairdave AIM Screenname - Jester84

09-08-2005, 02:01 PM	#18
Crush Active Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 307	I' right there with you Mike. This is the next "big" item on the To-Buy list, I have been looking at the March, BS and Vintage full serpentine systems. They are all about the same $$ but am leaning towards the March system due to it being coated. But yeah....click the button man! __________________ D.M.C -FF-

09-08-2005, 06:27 PM	#19
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	I like the 2 belt system, just for the simple fact that you wouldnt have to change your waterpump to the serpentine style (reverse rotation).



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09-08-2005, 06:35 PM	#20
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Hey guys. Thanks for the replies. After posting this last night, I couldn't take the wait. I clicked the submit button. These are clear powder coated or else I wouldn't have bought them. I have too damn much polished billet to keep clean as it is. I absolutely love polished billet stuff as to me it doesn't look cheap like chrome. Just a personal preference. One thing that kept me away from March stuff is it being a machine finish instead of polished. Now I can't wait until they get here. I feel like a kid in a candy store. Feels good to have the fire back again. Last night just for the heck of it, I put a kit in my Edelbrock Q-jet. Didn't need it, just felt like doing it before it did need it. This is the way I used to be. Do stuff to the truck for the fun of it instead of doing it because I had to. Mike

09-08-2005, 10:29 PM	#22
matthufham Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carl Junction, Missouri Posts: 2,061	as only 1 other person stated, if it's a true serp setup, you need a reverse rotation water pump.

09-08-2005, 10:52 PM	#23
C&C Chevy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Midwest City, OK Posts: 1,001	Welcome back, Mike! Looks like a great setup and I can't wait for the pics. __________________ Robert Current: 1986 SWB Silverado 4.3 / TH400 Past: 1985 SWB Silverado 305 / TH350 - sold 1995 1987 1/2 ton Silverado - FI 350 / 700R4 sold 2007

09-08-2005, 10:51 PM	#24
1987 Shortwide Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 610	I win in the simplicity dept. LOL __________________ ~Steve~ Friesen High Performance Auto and Graphics Toy: 87 Shortwide, 406 smallblock with a little boost My 87 buildup Daily Driver: 99 Sierra SLE 4X4. Black on Black and harder than hell to keep clean.

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