Power steering swap - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

*FUNMUDDER* · 10-29-2005, 09:17 PM

I need to put some power steering on my 68 GMC. I havent driven it on the road, but I can tell just by riding around my camproad that I'm going to need it. How hard is it to swap over to power from manual steering, and what parts will I need??? Thabks for the info.

riden2low · 10-29-2005, 09:30 PM

Just look for some one sell parts. I put a 70 on my 68.

MDC · 10-30-2005, 02:10 AM

FUNMUDDER
I'm getting ready to do my 67. Look a few pages back, I asked similar question a couple of day ago and got some pretty good responses and some good pics. I'll see if I can find it.
MDC

MDC · 10-30-2005, 02:28 AM

Well I can't figure out how to copy the thread link but maybe this will work

http://satellitehead.com/gallery/thu...s.php?album=10

**tnblazerk5** · 10-30-2005, 02:51 AM

here ya go
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=177943
and copy and paste
to copy click on whatever you are try to link and get it highlighted and then right click it and copy then go to wherever you want at and right click and paste it

riden2low · 10-30-2005, 12:48 PM

http://www.powersteering.com/products/

Check this place out if you want up date your power steering box. Made a world of difference in my trucks steering.

shifty · 10-30-2005, 04:31 PM

Upgrade pics:

http://satellitehead.com/gallery/thu...s.php?album=10

I have most of the parts needed for an L6 PS upgrade, including an xtra resevoir and pulleys and all kinds of brackets. I would be willing to part with it since nobody seems to want to buy my engines

It's all used though - so take it as you will.

Expect to pay at least $200 for the gearbox. You can get a junked one from a yard, then use it as a core - will save you at least $60 on the cost.

Might as well upgrade the tie rods, sleeves idler and pitman arm while there.

At minimum, you will need:
New PS gearbox
New Pitman arm
Resevoir/pump
Pulley
Brackets
You may need new rag joint, I am not 100% certain.

*FUNMUDDER* · 10-30-2005, 05:50 PM

The tie rods and etc. need no upgrades.........super super tight. There is hardly any play in it. Isn't there some sort of power assist thing or something like that out there for manual steering?

shifty · 10-30-2005, 10:48 PM

I have heard that you can cannibalize a bearing or something and stick it into your manual gearbox to increase the ratio of the box, but I'll be damned if I can find the post on that...

*FormerMember* · 10-30-2005, 10:52 PM

Power steering box, pitman arm, pump and lines. Add bracket to fit whatever motor you're running.

I am ripping apart a 68 K20 with a 283 and power steering. I have all of the above that can be yours for the right price of 50.00 plus shipping

**CPNE** · 10-31-2005, 05:20 PM

You have a 305 V6. None of the I6 or SBC pumps and brackets will work for you. Plus there are differences in the pitman arm and drag link assemblies between manual and PS setups on the pre-open knuckle D44 FE. You should contact board member ERL, he did exactly what yoy want to do with the same year/drivetrain combo.

Don't start ripping apart a functional truck and/or buying parts before you research the parts interchangeability and availability thereof. Talk to ERL, he's the 4x4 305 V6 guru here.

You also have a plow pump setup which may or may not interfere with the stock PS pump. I'd hate to see you get in over your head and spend money on the wrong parts.

shelby987 · 10-31-2005, 08:10 AM

Would like to be put in line for the powersteering setup above if funmudder passes.....sent you a PM.
forgot to ask, what engine is in the k20 you are parting out....I have a 250 with brackets already, will this pump work?

*FUNMUDDER* · 10-31-2005, 05:21 PM

I'll pass. Not that I don't trust you, I just dont like to do stuff over the internet.

*FUNMUDDER* · 10-31-2005, 05:22 PM

Thanks CPNE. Hey, wanna buy a new plow?????????

**CPNE** · 10-31-2005, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUNMUDDER

Thanks CPNE. Hey, wanna buy a new plow?????????

I got 3 of them already

shelby987 · 10-31-2005, 05:29 PM

Am I looking at interchangability issues with the dana 44hd of a 1970 k20?
Also, any word on the 283 p.s. pump working on a 250 block?

**CPNE** · 10-31-2005, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelby987

Am I looking at interchangability issues with the dana 44hd of a 1970 k20?
Also, any word on the 283 p.s. pump working on a 250 block?

Your's is open knuckle so you should be okay.

Pump will work, brackets and pulleys will not

shelby987 · 11-01-2005, 08:39 AM

I already have brackets, I just wanted to check to see if this pump will mount to those brackets? (same location of the holes on the pump body?)

JAKES 68GMC · 03-20-2006, 07:25 PM

TTT....... Old threads rule.

If anyone has done this to a 4x4, speak up and don't be afraid to post pics (frame indenting, box mounting, etc)

JAKES 68GMC · 03-21-2006, 09:58 PM

ttt

Bob Moore · 03-21-2006, 10:09 PM

Wes had some V-6 brackets not too long ago. Don't know if they sold or not.
Check with him.

Lakewood90712 · 03-21-2006, 10:38 PM

P.O. put a "Quick Ratio" power box in my c-10 , It's not that different in ratio, but feels kind of squirley. He also put on a stabilizer to cure the squirlyness , but it makes no diff. with or without it. Guess for racing or something like that it would be good.

Americanrider · 03-22-2006, 02:44 AM

here ya go Jake,
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=192229

10-29-2005, 09:17 PM	#1
FUNMUDDER Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 427	Power steering swap I need to put some power steering on my 68 GMC. I havent driven it on the road, but I can tell just by riding around my camproad that I'm going to need it. How hard is it to swap over to power from manual steering, and what parts will I need??? Thabks for the info.

10-29-2005, 09:30 PM	#2
riden2low Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portland OR. Posts: 86	Re: Power steering swap Just look for some one sell parts. I put a 70 on my 68. __________________ 68 Chevy short wide air cab 4/6 on the drop 327 small block Front disc Frame "c" sectioned Gaylord bed cover

10-30-2005, 02:10 AM	#3
MDC Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: N Texas Posts: 727	Re: Power steering swap FUNMUDDER I'm getting ready to do my 67. Look a few pages back, I asked similar question a couple of day ago and got some pretty good responses and some good pics. I'll see if I can find it. MDC

10-30-2005, 02:28 AM	#4
MDC Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: N Texas Posts: 727	Re: Power steering swap Well I can't figure out how to copy the thread link but maybe this will work http://satellitehead.com/gallery/thu...s.php?album=10

10-30-2005, 02:51 AM	#5
tnblazerk5 User #12137 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kingsport,upper east tenn Posts: 11,598	Re: Power steering swap here ya go http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=177943 and copy and paste to copy click on whatever you are try to link and get it highlighted and then right click it and copy then go to wherever you want at and right click and paste it

10-30-2005, 12:48 PM	#6
riden2low Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portland OR. Posts: 86	Re: Power steering swap http://www.powersteering.com/products/ Check this place out if you want up date your power steering box. Made a world of difference in my trucks steering. __________________ 68 Chevy short wide air cab 4/6 on the drop 327 small block Front disc Frame "c" sectioned Gaylord bed cover

10-30-2005, 04:31 PM	#7
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Re: Power steering swap Upgrade pics: http://satellitehead.com/gallery/thu...s.php?album=10 I have most of the parts needed for an L6 PS upgrade, including an xtra resevoir and pulleys and all kinds of brackets. I would be willing to part with it since nobody seems to want to buy my engines It's all used though - so take it as you will. Expect to pay at least $200 for the gearbox. You can get a junked one from a yard, then use it as a core - will save you at least $60 on the cost. Might as well upgrade the tie rods, sleeves idler and pitman arm while there. At minimum, you will need: New PS gearbox New Pitman arm Resevoir/pump Pulley Brackets You may need new rag joint, I am not 100% certain. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

10-30-2005, 05:50 PM	#8
FUNMUDDER Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 427	Re: Power steering swap The tie rods and etc. need no upgrades.........super super tight. There is hardly any play in it. Isn't there some sort of power assist thing or something like that out there for manual steering?

10-30-2005, 10:48 PM	#9
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Re: Power steering swap I have heard that you can cannibalize a bearing or something and stick it into your manual gearbox to increase the ratio of the box, but I'll be damned if I can find the post on that... __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

10-30-2005, 10:52 PM	#10
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: Power steering swap Power steering box, pitman arm, pump and lines. Add bracket to fit whatever motor you're running. I am ripping apart a 68 K20 with a 283 and power steering. I have all of the above that can be yours for the right price of 50.00 plus shipping

10-31-2005, 05:20 PM	#11
CPNE Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NH Posts: 6,664	Re: Power steering swap You have a 305 V6. None of the I6 or SBC pumps and brackets will work for you. Plus there are differences in the pitman arm and drag link assemblies between manual and PS setups on the pre-open knuckle D44 FE. You should contact board member ERL, he did exactly what yoy want to do with the same year/drivetrain combo. Don't start ripping apart a functional truck and/or buying parts before you research the parts interchangeability and availability thereof. Talk to ERL, he's the 4x4 305 V6 guru here. You also have a plow pump setup which may or may not interfere with the stock PS pump. I'd hate to see you get in over your head and spend money on the wrong parts. __________________ Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all

10-31-2005, 08:10 AM	#12
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: Power steering swap Would like to be put in line for the powersteering setup above if funmudder passes.....sent you a PM. forgot to ask, what engine is in the k20 you are parting out....I have a 250 with brackets already, will this pump work? Last edited by shelby987; 10-31-2005 at 08:18 AM.

10-31-2005, 05:21 PM	#13
FUNMUDDER Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 427	Re: Power steering swap I'll pass. Not that I don't trust you, I just dont like to do stuff over the internet.

10-31-2005, 05:22 PM	#14
FUNMUDDER Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 427	Re: Power steering swap Thanks CPNE. Hey, wanna buy a new plow?????????

10-31-2005, 05:29 PM	#16
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: Power steering swap Am I looking at interchangability issues with the dana 44hd of a 1970 k20? Also, any word on the 283 p.s. pump working on a 250 block?



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11-01-2005, 08:39 AM	#18
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Re: Power steering swap I already have brackets, I just wanted to check to see if this pump will mount to those brackets? (same location of the holes on the pump body?)

03-20-2006, 07:25 PM	#19
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: Power steering swap TTT....... Old threads rule. If anyone has done this to a 4x4, speak up and don't be afraid to post pics (frame indenting, box mounting, etc) Last edited by JAKES 68GMC; 03-20-2006 at 07:27 PM.

03-21-2006, 09:58 PM	#20
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: Power steering swap ttt

03-21-2006, 10:09 PM	#21
Bob Moore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 1,365	Re: Power steering swap Wes had some V-6 brackets not too long ago. Don't know if they sold or not. Check with him. __________________ 67 C-20 LWB, tilt, speed alert, vac, 454, T400 67 C-10 SWB, factory air with more to follow

03-21-2006, 10:38 PM	#22
Lakewood90712 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: so. cal Posts: 111	Re: Power steering swap P.O. put a "Quick Ratio" power box in my c-10 , It's not that different in ratio, but feels kind of squirley. He also put on a stabilizer to cure the squirlyness , but it makes no diff. with or without it. Guess for racing or something like that it would be good. __________________ 1987 GMC heavy half Shortwide-GONE 1971 LWB 350/350-GONE 1972 Buick Skylark (80K orig. miles,one family owned) 2002 Currie Phat Flyer (Pit Vehicle) STOLEN ..............................................

03-22-2006, 02:44 AM	#23
Americanrider Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NW, WA. Posts: 1,421	Re: Power steering swap here ya go Jake, http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=192229

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