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70GMCer · 11-24-2005, 09:30 AM

Not sure if this thread belongs here, but......Has anyone ever bought one of those fiberglass cowl hood scoops, and used it on our trucks? I see that they come with flanges on the edges so you could rivet and fiberglass into place. That would be a cheap cowl hood, if it would work. I see that they are around $70.00 in J.C. Whitney Cat. with a 2" rise......anyone with a picture of it done?

Just a thought.......

Steve

weasel29gm · 11-24-2005, 10:01 AM

I know a guy that took a $150 scoop and installed on a 64 Impala. Some thought it was a true cowl. Its advertised in most car mags.

70GMCer · 11-24-2005, 10:31 AM

Yeh....just wondering how it would work on our big hoods as far as holding up and not cracking, if done properly.......

LUV2XCLR8 · 11-24-2005, 11:16 AM

I think it would look fine if done by an experianced body person,
however I am not one, so by the time I paid them it would come
close to the New* price that you see them listed in online sites.

*However if you get one from a Vendor at a Super Chevy Show,
you pay no tax, no freight, and you get a Board discount, I did.

70c10 · 11-24-2005, 11:43 AM

Steve, get that thought out of your head!. I went down that road even though I was advised not to. I used a Harwood on my last truck that looked bad @ss for a few months. It was riveted and glassed over perfectly. Then it started to crack

. I had it repaired and repainted by another body shop who said I'm wasting my time and money. It cracked again and I eventually sold the truck. The vibration and hood closing really takes it's toll.

Vaughn · 11-24-2005, 12:04 PM

ALL fiberglass to metal bonding will crack - it is just a question of when. The metal and the fiberglass expand at different rates when heated, so cracking will ALWAYS occur.

If you want one that will last a long time, get either a complete fiberglass hood or a complete metal hood (goodmark has all-metal cowl induction hoods, $400 or so).

ed455 · 11-25-2005, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaughn

ALL fiberglass to metal bonding will crack - it is just a question of when. The metal and the fiberglass expand at different rates when heated, so cracking will ALWAYS occur.

If you want one that will last a long time, get either a complete fiberglass hood or a complete metal hood (goodmark has all-metal cowl induction hoods, $400 or so).

Yep, what he said. I have a '66 with those two raised lines that go from a point all the way up the hood. I like the look of those line but want a cowl hood too. Been thinkin about finding a used hood in the junkyard and cutting a section out of the middle and making my own cowl hood by fabbing it into my original hood thus keeping those lines. Would take a lot of welding and time but would look sweet.

70GMCer · 11-24-2005, 03:52 PM

Makes since then. That's why I was checking on here. Years back I installed a pro scoop on my friends race car. Never cracked, but then it wasn't driven all the time either. Guess I'll just wait when I'm ready for a cowl hood.

thanks for the input.....

corn · 11-24-2005, 06:15 PM

I installed a fiberglass L88 scoop to the hood of a nova I had & it never cracked. You have to make sure its done right though. On my 84, I bought a wrecked SS chevelle hood & cut the scoop out of it & welded it into my stock hood. It turned out good & it was a HECK of a lot cheaper than a complete cowl hood. Just my .02...

70GMCer · 11-24-2005, 08:27 PM

still wondering about this........

lvscott · 11-24-2005, 09:04 PM

check out this web site. they are steel, and you can even get them with a bonding agent too. http://thespeedcenter.net/SpeedCenterHomeFrameSet.htm

70c10swb · 11-24-2005, 09:24 PM

I dont know if your pressed for time or not but maybe look for a used one. But that would be like winning the lottery though

Farm Boy · 11-24-2005, 11:53 PM

Has anyone used the speed center hood scoop? Looks like it wouldn't be to hard to do.

70GMCer · 11-25-2005, 09:02 AM

Like 70c10swb said, finding a used one would be great. That's if I could fine it local. Shipping would be a killer. I'm not that crazy about doing any welding on the hood, because of the heat and once a hood warps, that's pretty much the end on that hood. I'n not that good of a welder. Maybe a pro could do it, but then, we're getting into the price of a new cowl hood itself by the time it's completed.

I'm waiting for someone on here to say, "Hey, Mr. Cheap-O" just buy the whole cowl hood and be done with it.......lol

come on....let's here it !!! hehehe

70c10 · 11-25-2005, 11:12 AM

I'm keeping my mouth shut!

**N2TRUX** · 11-25-2005, 11:16 AM

It WILL crack. It's not a matter of will it crack, it's a matter of when.....

*FormerMember* · 11-25-2005, 11:46 AM

Any disimiliar materials will crack...

Farm Boy · 11-25-2005, 08:52 PM

this speed shop cowl said it is a 20 guage metal cowl and you can use the metal bonding adheasive. Will that work having the metal to metal and "glued" instead of welded? I have a hood in great shape if someone wants to trade for a cowl hood?????

corn · 11-25-2005, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farm Boy

I have a hood in great shape if someone wants to trade for a cowl hood?????

Im guessing you and roughly 100 others here would love to find a deal like that...

**special-K** · 11-26-2005, 09:29 AM

I would stick with an "All One Peice" hood.No regrets are worth a liitle extra money.Also,no labor.The hood could be cut/braced,welded/molded.But,to do this right,you`ll be looking at thecost of a new cowl hood.Unless you`re a fabricator that does your own and doesn`t count his time cuz it`s a hobby.Get one next spring at a swap meet.Contact the vendor in advance so he`ll bring "YOU" one and talk about a special "Show" price.That`s as cheap as you`ll get.

**BOSS** · 11-26-2005, 10:21 AM

Keep an eye out on the parts board,i just got one from lost wages for about the price of a scoop.

11-24-2005, 09:30 AM	#1
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Cheap Cowl Hood ? Not sure if this thread belongs here, but......Has anyone ever bought one of those fiberglass cowl hood scoops, and used it on our trucks? I see that they come with flanges on the edges so you could rivet and fiberglass into place. That would be a cheap cowl hood, if it would work. I see that they are around $70.00 in J.C. Whitney Cat. with a 2" rise......anyone with a picture of it done? Just a thought....... Steve __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

11-24-2005, 10:01 AM	#2
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,097	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? I know a guy that took a $150 scoop and installed on a 64 Impala. Some thought it was a true cowl. Its advertised in most car mags. __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 38YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

11-24-2005, 10:31 AM	#3
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? Yeh....just wondering how it would work on our big hoods as far as holding up and not cracking, if done properly....... __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

11-24-2005, 11:16 AM	#4
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? I think it would look fine if done by an experianced body person, however I am not one, so by the time I paid them it would come close to the New* price that you see them listed in online sites. *However if you get one from a Vendor at a Super Chevy Show, you pay no tax, no freight, and you get a Board discount, I did. __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

11-24-2005, 11:43 AM	#5
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? Steve, get that thought out of your head!. I went down that road even though I was advised not to. I used a Harwood on my last truck that looked bad @ss for a few months. It was riveted and glassed over perfectly. Then it started to crack . I had it repaired and repainted by another body shop who said I'm wasting my time and money. It cracked again and I eventually sold the truck. The vibration and hood closing really takes it's toll. Attached Images __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

11-24-2005, 12:04 PM	#6
Vaughn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 20	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? ALL fiberglass to metal bonding will crack - it is just a question of when. The metal and the fiberglass expand at different rates when heated, so cracking will ALWAYS occur. If you want one that will last a long time, get either a complete fiberglass hood or a complete metal hood (goodmark has all-metal cowl induction hoods, $400 or so).

11-24-2005, 03:52 PM	#8
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? Makes since then. That's why I was checking on here. Years back I installed a pro scoop on my friends race car. Never cracked, but then it wasn't driven all the time either. Guess I'll just wait when I'm ready for a cowl hood. thanks for the input..... __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

11-24-2005, 06:15 PM	#9
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? I installed a fiberglass L88 scoop to the hood of a nova I had & it never cracked. You have to make sure its done right though. On my 84, I bought a wrecked SS chevelle hood & cut the scoop out of it & welded it into my stock hood. It turned out good & it was a HECK of a lot cheaper than a complete cowl hood. Just my .02...

11-24-2005, 08:27 PM	#10
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? still wondering about this........ __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

11-24-2005, 09:04 PM	#11
lvscott Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 84	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? check out this web site. they are steel, and you can even get them with a bonding agent too. http://thespeedcenter.net/SpeedCenterHomeFrameSet.htm

11-24-2005, 09:24 PM	#12
70c10swb no brain no headache Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cape Cod MA Posts: 567	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? I dont know if your pressed for time or not but maybe look for a used one. But that would be like winning the lottery though __________________ 1996 GMC Sierra z71 1970 SWB 2wd (project)

11-24-2005, 11:53 PM	#13
Farm Boy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Alder, MT 59710 Posts: 488	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? Has anyone used the speed center hood scoop? Looks like it wouldn't be to hard to do. __________________ WWS!!!!! 1971 Custom C/20 1992 Chevrolet Z71 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee 1984 Chevrolet Celebrity (All old but long ago paid for)

11-25-2005, 09:02 AM	#14
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? Like 70c10swb said, finding a used one would be great. That's if I could fine it local. Shipping would be a killer. I'm not that crazy about doing any welding on the hood, because of the heat and once a hood warps, that's pretty much the end on that hood. I'n not that good of a welder. Maybe a pro could do it, but then, we're getting into the price of a new cowl hood itself by the time it's completed. I'm waiting for someone on here to say, "Hey, Mr. Cheap-O" just buy the whole cowl hood and be done with it.......lol come on....let's here it !!! hehehe __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

11-25-2005, 11:12 AM	#15
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,856	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? I'm keeping my mouth shut! __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

11-25-2005, 11:16 AM	#16
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11-25-2005, 11:46 AM	#17
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? Any disimiliar materials will crack...

11-25-2005, 08:52 PM	#18
Farm Boy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Alder, MT 59710 Posts: 488	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? this speed shop cowl said it is a 20 guage metal cowl and you can use the metal bonding adheasive. Will that work having the metal to metal and "glued" instead of welded? I have a hood in great shape if someone wants to trade for a cowl hood????? __________________ WWS!!!!! 1971 Custom C/20 1992 Chevrolet Z71 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee 1984 Chevrolet Celebrity (All old but long ago paid for)

11-26-2005, 09:29 AM	#20
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Cheap Cowl Hood ? I would stick with an "All One Peice" hood.No regrets are worth a liitle extra money.Also,no labor.The hood could be cut/braced,welded/molded.But,to do this right,you`ll be looking at thecost of a new cowl hood.Unless you`re a fabricator that does your own and doesn`t count his time cuz it`s a hobby.Get one next spring at a swap meet.Contact the vendor in advance so he`ll bring "YOU" one and talk about a special "Show" price.That`s as cheap as you`ll get. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

11-26-2005, 10:21 AM	#21
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