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Striker169 · 12-18-2005, 07:46 PM

So I dont have an in cab gas tank, and was thinking of building a box for two 6x9's and a 8in sub that looks and is similar to the same measurements as the gas tank. Has anyone done this before or something similar? and if you have a nice sound system in your truck could you post pictures.

pissonNOS · 12-18-2005, 08:31 PM

might I suggest getting an 8 inch cerwin vega and building the sub box the whole length of the cab and porting it then putting ur 6x9's under the seat that little 8 in a box that size ported should be plenty of boom to get out and sand if u had ur truck sandblasted haha

dinnut · 12-18-2005, 11:02 PM

heres my suggestion... put a pioneer premier thin series 12 in the middle of the box taking up about 3/4 of the box... seal the sub up.... so make the box have 3 chambers...and put the 6x9's on the outside maybe more toward the corners of the cab face them out a little bit maybe... maybe put some ports by the sub like shown...

muddpile · 12-19-2005, 12:34 AM

I'd put the 6x9's out in front of the seat in the doors or kicks or something. You'll never hear the mids/highs trying to fire them through seat foam.

72str8flush · 12-19-2005, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by muddpile

I'd put the 6x9's out in front of the seat in the doors or kicks or something. You'll never hear the mids/highs trying to fire them through seat foam.

I agree... only way you would want to put anything other than a sub behind the seat is if it is facing up some how. I had an old truck box that was an 8 facing front and a 4' facing up and it sounded pretty good.

brad juan · 12-25-2005, 05:03 PM

I had 2 10" kickers behing the seat and 6x9's in the doors, sounded great, I dont think you will hear the mids and high if you put the 6x9's behind the seat, the sub will be a little more over powering than the 6x9.

shifty · 12-25-2005, 05:14 PM

brad juan is right - highs and mids reflect - low end bass is non-directional. If you put something in front of a midrange or tweeter, will muffle the sound. It's almost impossible to muffle bass.

BowTieMan · 12-26-2005, 12:13 AM

How would one 10 ported and componets behind the seat, 6.5" door speakers, and the tweeters from the components in the dash sound? I listen to alot of rock so I dont want booming bass, I want something thats loud with nice highs and can go with a fast beat.

shifty · 12-26-2005, 12:33 AM

Ported enclosures are great for hitting low, low lows (depends on how the box is tuned). Ported boxes are finicky, unless you understand how to tune a port, build a ported box, port length and all that other stuff, I'd go sealed - it's all around easier.

I don't understand why you'd want to split the components the way you're talking about doing it. You're talking about a lot of weirdness on the wiring and stuff - if you put the components in the box, you'll need to install the crossover that comes with them somewhere...and you're gonna be running a lot of wire to join that crossover with the tweeters in the dash...

If you wanted a prime setup and you insisted on using something like you're talking about, I would go with the 10" sub in the rear, sealed box, if you must have something for mid-bass, drop some 6.5" woofers in the rear along with the 10" sub (in separate sealed enclosures or something). Get some kick panels for your components to mount them next to your feet and drop some tweeters in the dash if you really want some highs or go with a single center channel in the stock speaker location. It all depends on your budget.

If given the choice between using a coaxial or triaxial speaker or a set of components, I would pick the components hands down every time. I am very concious of having too many speakers too

Always remember - you can tweak down or up the bass using the gain control on your amplifier...so don't let "too much bass" influence your choice. With some tuning, you'll get what you want - nothing sounds perfect right off the bat.

BowTieMan · 12-26-2005, 12:38 AM

So do you think one 10 sealed with about 250 watts going to it would be enough to fill the cab of a truck. Or would 2 10's be better?

muddpile · 12-26-2005, 12:44 AM

I'm going to be running a pair of Eclipse 4 way 6x9's in the doors off a 50x2 amp. They had kind of harsh mids and highs, so they will work good in the lower door with the distance to my ears. I will also be running a downfiring alpine Type R 10" in a custom center console off 350 watts. Should be pretty loud, and still sound great. 250 to a single 10" would sound fine as well Bowtieman.

sickred72 · 12-26-2005, 12:49 AM

i have already done it twice 2 10" alpine type R's and 1000 watt alpine amp seald and it hits hard.......jerald

Striker169 · 12-26-2005, 01:52 AM

sickred72 do you have anymore pictures of your setup?

mcmlxix · 12-26-2005, 08:30 AM

yes pleasae. more pics

**truckdude239** · 12-26-2005, 09:14 AM

more pictures

sickred72 · 12-26-2005, 12:31 PM

e-mail me a sickred72@yahoo.com and i will give you all the pics you want. or someone tell me how to post pics they keep telling me my pictures are to big.....jerald

Striker169 · 12-26-2005, 12:44 PM

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e-mail me a sickred72@yahoo.com and i will give you all the pics you want. or someone tell me how to post pics they keep telling me my pictures are to big.....jerald

See my sig, register, and then you just click upload and browse for the file and hit the uplod button it even formats it to where you can copy and paste into the forum without having to edit the tags or anything.

BowTieMan · 12-26-2005, 03:27 PM

I have a few pictures of different set up's.

BowTieMan · 12-26-2005, 05:20 PM

This is a board members. If you this is yours or know whos it is some dementions on these boxes would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

longnlow72 · 12-26-2005, 08:26 PM

thats mine, I tried to draw it out on paint just now, i didnt really have plannes laid out before hand but luckily my trucks torn apart so i measured the box, i know its confusing but ask anything u want

shifty · 12-26-2005, 09:08 PM

One ten should suffice, IMO.

I had one dual-voicecoil 12" in my extended cab '03 sierra with a 500-watt amp hooked up to it (tuned way down) and it kicked serious ass. Felt like a sledgehammer behind my seat (it was under the rear seat - a JL Audio stealthbox)

sickred72 · 12-26-2005, 10:32 PM

hope you guys like!!!!
thanks to all that e-mailed im no pro just kinda doin my own thing!!!!!

sickred72 · 12-26-2005, 10:36 PM

you aint seen nothin yet i have been building a 72 2wd blazer 20" wheels, 373 stroker, 308 posi, 700r4, $6500.00 in airride technologies airbags, tubular upper/lower control arms, notched frame, polished stainless 4 link, 4 wheel disc brakes and EVERYTHING powder coated!!!!!.......thanks jerald

smbrouss70 · 12-26-2005, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sickred72

you aint seen nothin yet i have been building a 72 2wd blazer 20" wheels, 373 stroker, 308 posi, 700r4, $6500.00 in airride technologies airbags, tubular upper/lower control arms, notched frame, polished stainless 4 link, 4 wheel disc brakes and EVERYTHING powder coated!!!!!.......thanks jerald

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Striker169 · 12-26-2005, 11:19 PM

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12-18-2005, 07:46 PM	#1
Striker169 Car O'Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 692	Speaker/Sub Box So I dont have an in cab gas tank, and was thinking of building a box for two 6x9's and a 8in sub that looks and is similar to the same measurements as the gas tank. Has anyone done this before or something similar? and if you have a nice sound system in your truck could you post pictures.

12-18-2005, 08:31 PM	#2
pissonNOS senior member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: fort macleod alberta Posts: 2,770	Re: Speaker/Sub Box might I suggest getting an 8 inch cerwin vega and building the sub box the whole length of the cab and porting it then putting ur 6x9's under the seat that little 8 in a box that size ported should be plenty of boom to get out and sand if u had ur truck sandblasted haha __________________ 69 GMC bagged

12-18-2005, 11:02 PM	#3
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	Re: Speaker/Sub Box heres my suggestion... put a pioneer premier thin series 12 in the middle of the box taking up about 3/4 of the box... seal the sub up.... so make the box have 3 chambers...and put the 6x9's on the outside maybe more toward the corners of the cab face them out a little bit maybe... maybe put some ports by the sub like shown... Attached Images __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9" Last edited by dinnut; 12-18-2005 at 11:12 PM.

12-19-2005, 12:34 AM	#4
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Re: Speaker/Sub Box I'd put the 6x9's out in front of the seat in the doors or kicks or something. You'll never hear the mids/highs trying to fire them through seat foam. __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

12-25-2005, 05:03 PM	#6
brad juan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 42	Re: Speaker/Sub Box I had 2 10" kickers behing the seat and 6x9's in the doors, sounded great, I dont think you will hear the mids and high if you put the 6x9's behind the seat, the sub will be a little more over powering than the 6x9. __________________ 1972 chevy C/10, with factory air, SWB, 350,700r4, lowered 3 and 5.

12-25-2005, 05:14 PM	#7
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: Speaker/Sub Box brad juan is right - highs and mids reflect - low end bass is non-directional. If you put something in front of a midrange or tweeter, will muffle the sound. It's almost impossible to muffle bass. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

12-26-2005, 12:13 AM	#8
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	Re: Speaker/Sub Box How would one 10 ported and componets behind the seat, 6.5" door speakers, and the tweeters from the components in the dash sound? I listen to alot of rock so I dont want booming bass, I want something thats loud with nice highs and can go with a fast beat. __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo

12-26-2005, 12:33 AM	#9
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: Speaker/Sub Box Ported enclosures are great for hitting low, low lows (depends on how the box is tuned). Ported boxes are finicky, unless you understand how to tune a port, build a ported box, port length and all that other stuff, I'd go sealed - it's all around easier. I don't understand why you'd want to split the components the way you're talking about doing it. You're talking about a lot of weirdness on the wiring and stuff - if you put the components in the box, you'll need to install the crossover that comes with them somewhere...and you're gonna be running a lot of wire to join that crossover with the tweeters in the dash... If you wanted a prime setup and you insisted on using something like you're talking about, I would go with the 10" sub in the rear, sealed box, if you must have something for mid-bass, drop some 6.5" woofers in the rear along with the 10" sub (in separate sealed enclosures or something). Get some kick panels for your components to mount them next to your feet and drop some tweeters in the dash if you really want some highs or go with a single center channel in the stock speaker location. It all depends on your budget. If given the choice between using a coaxial or triaxial speaker or a set of components, I would pick the components hands down every time. I am very concious of having too many speakers too Always remember - you can tweak down or up the bass using the gain control on your amplifier...so don't let "too much bass" influence your choice. With some tuning, you'll get what you want - nothing sounds perfect right off the bat. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

12-26-2005, 12:38 AM	#10
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	Re: Speaker/Sub Box So do you think one 10 sealed with about 250 watts going to it would be enough to fill the cab of a truck. Or would 2 10's be better? __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo

12-26-2005, 12:44 AM	#11
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Re: Speaker/Sub Box I'm going to be running a pair of Eclipse 4 way 6x9's in the doors off a 50x2 amp. They had kind of harsh mids and highs, so they will work good in the lower door with the distance to my ears. I will also be running a downfiring alpine Type R 10" in a custom center console off 350 watts. Should be pretty loud, and still sound great. 250 to a single 10" would sound fine as well Bowtieman. __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

12-26-2005, 12:49 AM	#12
sickred72 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: oregon Posts: 204	Re: Speaker/Sub Box i have already done it twice 2 10" alpine type R's and 1000 watt alpine amp seald and it hits hard.......jerald Attached Images

12-26-2005, 01:52 AM	#13
Striker169 Car O'Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: Speaker/Sub Box sickred72 do you have anymore pictures of your setup?

12-26-2005, 08:30 AM	#14
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12-26-2005, 09:14 AM	#15
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12-26-2005, 12:31 PM	#16
sickred72 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: oregon Posts: 204	Re: Speaker/Sub Box e-mail me a sickred72@yahoo.com and i will give you all the pics you want. or someone tell me how to post pics they keep telling me my pictures are to big.....jerald



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12-26-2005, 03:27 PM	#18
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	Re: Speaker/Sub Box I have a few pictures of different set up's. Attached Images __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo Last edited by BowTieMan; 12-26-2005 at 03:28 PM.

12-26-2005, 05:20 PM	#19
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	Re: Speaker/Sub Box This is a board members. If you this is yours or know whos it is some dementions on these boxes would be greatly, greatly appreciated. Attached Images __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo Last edited by BowTieMan; 12-26-2005 at 05:21 PM.

12-26-2005, 08:26 PM	#20
longnlow72 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: SW Washington Posts: 947	Re: Speaker/Sub Box thats mine, I tried to draw it out on paint just now, i didnt really have plannes laid out before hand but luckily my trucks torn apart so i measured the box, i know its confusing but ask anything u want Attached Images __________________ 72 Chevy lwb, cowl hood, shaved antenna, shaved bedrails, blazer tank, sidemarker fill, 1pc windows, flowmaster 40's, alpine deck, infinity 6x9's, infinity 4"ers, 2 jl audio 10w0's, grant wheel, keyless entry and alarm, more waiting to be done...

12-26-2005, 09:08 PM	#21
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,373	Re: Speaker/Sub Box One ten should suffice, IMO. I had one dual-voicecoil 12" in my extended cab '03 sierra with a 500-watt amp hooked up to it (tuned way down) and it kicked serious ass. Felt like a sledgehammer behind my seat (it was under the rear seat - a JL Audio stealthbox) __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

12-26-2005, 10:32 PM	#22
sickred72 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: oregon Posts: 204	Re: Speaker/Sub Box hope you guys like!!!! thanks to all that e-mailed im no pro just kinda doin my own thing!!!!! Attached Images

12-26-2005, 10:36 PM	#23
sickred72 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: oregon Posts: 204	Re: Speaker/Sub Box you aint seen nothin yet i have been building a 72 2wd blazer 20" wheels, 373 stroker, 308 posi, 700r4, $6500.00 in airride technologies airbags, tubular upper/lower control arms, notched frame, polished stainless 4 link, 4 wheel disc brakes and EVERYTHING powder coated!!!!!.......thanks jerald

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