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58Apache · 02-07-2006, 08:48 PM

Just thought I would say hey to all! We are new to the boards and already we have found tons of useful info for our old bolt. We are the proud new owners of a 58 apache 3200. Just thought I would toss up a couple of pics after a much needed buffing and wax. Not the best pics but it was getting late. Lots of plans for this truck! Enjoy the pics let me know what you guys and girls think!

Seon · 02-07-2006, 09:10 PM

That's a good looking truck.

ROCKYXCAB · 02-07-2006, 09:14 PM

yep

NDtruck · 02-07-2006, 11:09 PM

Looks like a great truck. What plans do you have for it?

DennyB · 02-07-2006, 11:34 PM

Very Nice

58Apache · 02-07-2006, 11:45 PM

Hey thanks for the flowers. Well I myself would really like to see it left the original color. My hubby wants to make it more of a hot rod, custom burgundy paint, fat rims and god knows what else.

Right now we are just trying to replace missing or worn out parts. All the body seals, interior parts, a bumper...... you know the little stuff HAHA

The interior is the worst off, so that is where we are starting......

CAL 58 GMC · 02-09-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 58Apache

Hey thanks for the flowers. Well I myself would really like to see it left the original color. My hubby wants to make it more of a hot rod, custom burgundy paint, fat rims and god knows what else.

Right now we are just trying to replace missing or worn out parts. All the body seals, interior parts, a bumper...... you know the little stuff HAHA

The interior is the worst off, so that is where we are starting......

I thank I like your husbands plans!!!!!

wbkinsey · 02-08-2006, 11:20 AM

I'm with you, keep it stock, but then that was my preference for my 59 as well as most vehicles. If hubby wants to streetrod a truck the short steps or fleets seem more preferable. See what looks like the V8 hood emblem, does your truck still have the original 283 engine. You might want to also check out www.stovebolt.com A super site for old GM truck folks.

Jebb1978 · 02-08-2006, 11:20 AM

Nice clean stocker. I like them stock almost as much, if mine was in that condition I would not do much. Thanks for sharing and welcome to the board.

58Apache · 02-08-2006, 08:36 PM

Why yes it does have the 283, not sure if it is the original. The tag on the body that gives details about the production of the truck is gone

I really wish it was there because I wanted to see where it was built, what it did come with etc....

Igotachevyor2 · 02-08-2006, 09:03 PM

nice ride

wbkinsey · 02-09-2006, 03:24 PM

Is the VIN tag inside the drivers door missing? If so, did you get a title with a VIN # with the truck? An original V8 truck VIN will start with letter V. You might check the motor S/N also or look for casting and date codes.

poncho_villa · 02-11-2006, 03:55 PM

That paint thats on it looks fairly fresh. Kind of a shame to change it. Any idea what the name of that color is? Judging by the hood emblem, I'd say that truck came with the 283. Or someone changed that too. The 6 cyl trucks had a slight different one.

58Apache · 02-11-2006, 08:49 PM

The vin number is still there but isnt there a tag that has more codes on it? I had another old car that had a seperate tag with a ton of codes. We were able to break it down to determine where it was made, what day, what the car came with ect....

The paint is 10 years old. And it wasnt a very good job they signed the heck out of it but from 10ft you cant tell. The color is dawn blue and pure white.

phantom dually · 02-11-2006, 08:56 PM

Welcome. Nice clean truck there!

wbkinsey · 02-13-2006, 04:12 PM

As Poncho says the hood emblem looks like a V8 emblem although the pics are not that clear. If a factory V8 the first digit of your VIN will be a V. Try the VIN decoder here http://www.americanclassic.com/ the button on the left. It will tell you whether it was factory V8, series truck, the year, assembly plant and your truck production number (starts with 100,001 for first truck at that plant for the YOM.) Let us know what you have. Don't believe most of these older trucks had a trim plate per se. My 59 has another plate just below the VIN tag which is larger and blue which has the paint code stamped on it. I'm computer challenged or I would post a pic here for you. Email me if you need a pic emailed.

58Apache · 02-13-2006, 09:49 PM

That was the vin decoder that I used, they have alot of good parts!

It didnt offer too much info other than it is a 58 with a 283 and it doesnt show where it was built

I see all the codes for trans, gears and color but I dont see where it says what mine is.

wbkinsey · 02-14-2006, 01:45 PM

The assembly plant code is the LETTER directly following the year designator, in your case 58. Here is a list of the code letters and corresponding assembly plants.

'53-'64 Factory Codes
A Atlanta, GA
B Baltimore, MD
F Flint, MI
G Framingham, MA
H Fremont, CA
J Janesville, WI
K Kansas City, MO
L Los Angeles, CA
N Norwood, OH
O Oakland, CA
P Pontiac, MI
S St. Louis, MO
T Tarrytown, NY
V Southgate, CA
W Willow Run, MI
Y Wilmington, DE
The code changed significantly in 1953. VINs now had: Series (single letter); Model Year (last digit of the year); Factory Code (now changed to letters); and Production Order symbols. Each series was separately numbered in sequence for that particular plant (Starting at 001001).

Example -- L54A001901

Series Model Year Factory Code Production Order
L 54 A 0001901

The truck in the example is the 900th 1954 1-Ton truck built at Atlanta.

1955 2nd Series (First of the "Task Force" trucks)

With the '55 2nd series came some more changes. The first symbol was the code for the Series of the truck (1/2-ton, 3/4-ton etc.) and the second symbol was a "2" for second series of '55 trucks. The 3rd and 4th symbols were the year, and then came the plant symbol. Last of course, was the sequence number (6 digits and started with 001001 at each plant).

Example -- H255J000101

Series Series Model Year Factory Code Production Order
H 2 55 J 001101

The truck in the example is the 100th 1955 Second Series 1/2-Ton truck built at Janesville.

1956 - 1959 ("Task Force" trucks)

The first and second symbols indicated the Series (all light trucks had a "3" in the first position). Third and fourth symbols indicated the two-digit year. The fifth symbol indicated the assembly plant (now changed to letters from numbers). Last was the the sequence number (6 digits and started with 001001 at each plant).

Example -- 3G56F001001

Series Model Year Factory Code Production Order
3G 56 F 001001

The truck in the example is the first 1956 1-Ton truck built at Flint.

Hope this helps.
Bruce

02-07-2006, 08:48 PM	#1
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02-07-2006, 11:45 PM	#6
58Apache Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kennewick WA Posts: 23	Re: Just wanted to say hello! Hey thanks for the flowers. Well I myself would really like to see it left the original color. My hubby wants to make it more of a hot rod, custom burgundy paint, fat rims and god knows what else. Right now we are just trying to replace missing or worn out parts. All the body seals, interior parts, a bumper...... you know the little stuff HAHA The interior is the worst off, so that is where we are starting......

02-08-2006, 11:20 AM	#8
wbkinsey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 34	Re: Just wanted to say hello! I'm with you, keep it stock, but then that was my preference for my 59 as well as most vehicles. If hubby wants to streetrod a truck the short steps or fleets seem more preferable. See what looks like the V8 hood emblem, does your truck still have the original 283 engine. You might want to also check out www.stovebolt.com A super site for old GM truck folks.

02-08-2006, 11:20 AM	#9
Jebb1978 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 3,713	Re: Just wanted to say hello! Nice clean stocker. I like them stock almost as much, if mine was in that condition I would not do much. Thanks for sharing and welcome to the board. __________________ 1959 GMC project Last edited by Jebb1978; 02-08-2006 at 11:24 AM.

02-08-2006, 08:36 PM	#10
58Apache Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kennewick WA Posts: 23	Re: Just wanted to say hello! Why yes it does have the 283, not sure if it is the original. The tag on the body that gives details about the production of the truck is gone I really wish it was there because I wanted to see where it was built, what it did come with etc....

02-08-2006, 09:03 PM	#11
Igotachevyor2 Apache Club Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Goodlettsville,Tn. Posts: 1,294	Re: Just wanted to say hello! nice ride __________________ 58 CHEVY APACHE I 74 CHEVY C-10 I 78 K-10 donor truck I 89 SONOMA My Trucks Apache Sitting Idle MySpace Project Dad's Truck (74 C-10 to K-10 conversion) .

02-09-2006, 03:24 PM	#12
wbkinsey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 34	Re: Just wanted to say hello! Is the VIN tag inside the drivers door missing? If so, did you get a title with a VIN # with the truck? An original V8 truck VIN will start with letter V. You might check the motor S/N also or look for casting and date codes.

02-11-2006, 03:55 PM	#13
poncho_villa Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: B.C. Posts: 457	Re: Just wanted to say hello! That paint thats on it looks fairly fresh. Kind of a shame to change it. Any idea what the name of that color is? Judging by the hood emblem, I'd say that truck came with the 283. Or someone changed that too. The 6 cyl trucks had a slight different one. __________________ 58 Apache short fleetside ona 64 chassis:

02-11-2006, 08:49 PM	#14
58Apache Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kennewick WA Posts: 23	Re: Just wanted to say hello! The vin number is still there but isnt there a tag that has more codes on it? I had another old car that had a seperate tag with a ton of codes. We were able to break it down to determine where it was made, what day, what the car came with ect.... The paint is 10 years old. And it wasnt a very good job they signed the heck out of it but from 10ft you cant tell. The color is dawn blue and pure white.

02-11-2006, 08:56 PM	#15
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02-13-2006, 04:12 PM	#16
wbkinsey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 34	Re: Just wanted to say hello! As Poncho says the hood emblem looks like a V8 emblem although the pics are not that clear. If a factory V8 the first digit of your VIN will be a V. Try the VIN decoder here http://www.americanclassic.com/ the button on the left. It will tell you whether it was factory V8, series truck, the year, assembly plant and your truck production number (starts with 100,001 for first truck at that plant for the YOM.) Let us know what you have. Don't believe most of these older trucks had a trim plate per se. My 59 has another plate just below the VIN tag which is larger and blue which has the paint code stamped on it. I'm computer challenged or I would post a pic here for you. Email me if you need a pic emailed. Last edited by wbkinsey; 02-13-2006 at 04:14 PM.



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02-13-2006, 09:49 PM	#17
58Apache Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kennewick WA Posts: 23	Re: Just wanted to say hello! That was the vin decoder that I used, they have alot of good parts! It didnt offer too much info other than it is a 58 with a 283 and it doesnt show where it was built I see all the codes for trans, gears and color but I dont see where it says what mine is.

02-14-2006, 01:45 PM	#18
wbkinsey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 34	Re: Just wanted to say hello! The assembly plant code is the LETTER directly following the year designator, in your case 58. Here is a list of the code letters and corresponding assembly plants. '53-'64 Factory Codes A Atlanta, GA B Baltimore, MD F Flint, MI G Framingham, MA H Fremont, CA J Janesville, WI K Kansas City, MO L Los Angeles, CA N Norwood, OH O Oakland, CA P Pontiac, MI S St. Louis, MO T Tarrytown, NY V Southgate, CA W Willow Run, MI Y Wilmington, DE The code changed significantly in 1953. VINs now had: Series (single letter); Model Year (last digit of the year); Factory Code (now changed to letters); and Production Order symbols. Each series was separately numbered in sequence for that particular plant (Starting at 001001). Example -- L54A001901 Series Model Year Factory Code Production Order L 54 A 0001901 The truck in the example is the 900th 1954 1-Ton truck built at Atlanta. 1955 2nd Series (First of the "Task Force" trucks) With the '55 2nd series came some more changes. The first symbol was the code for the Series of the truck (1/2-ton, 3/4-ton etc.) and the second symbol was a "2" for second series of '55 trucks. The 3rd and 4th symbols were the year, and then came the plant symbol. Last of course, was the sequence number (6 digits and started with 001001 at each plant). Example -- H255J000101 Series Series Model Year Factory Code Production Order H 2 55 J 001101 The truck in the example is the 100th 1955 Second Series 1/2-Ton truck built at Janesville. 1956 - 1959 ("Task Force" trucks) The first and second symbols indicated the Series (all light trucks had a "3" in the first position). Third and fourth symbols indicated the two-digit year. The fifth symbol indicated the assembly plant (now changed to letters from numbers). Last was the the sequence number (6 digits and started with 001001 at each plant). Example -- 3G56F001001 Series Model Year Factory Code Production Order 3G 56 F 001001 The truck in the example is the first 1956 1-Ton truck built at Flint. Hope this helps. Bruce

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