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Old 06-07-2006, 08:40 PM   #1
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pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

Did anybody see the story on this in the current Custom Classic Trucks mag? Gives it the rake similar to the 67 & 68 hoods. I have been waiting to see if some hood supplier would offer a 69 - 72 hood with that 67/68 rake built in. I'd buy it.
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:50 PM   #2
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

The first one ya saw at a car show would sure throw you off!! Probably looks pretty good.
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What? something like this?





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Old 06-07-2006, 10:06 PM   #4
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

i saw that and was disgusted, i love the original hood's look.
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

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Did anybody see the story on this in the current Custom Classic Trucks mag? Gives it the rake similar to the 67 & 68 hoods. I have been waiting to see if some hood supplier would offer a 69 - 72 hood with that 67/68 rake built in. I'd buy it.
This is one of many mods I will be doing to my 70 2wd. I get Classic trucks but I have not seen Custom Classic Trucks before!

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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

Yeah Paul. That would be the look! Nice job. I think the stock 69-72 hood is a bit boxey in front and adding that rake really looks good.
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[I get Classic trucks but I have not seen Custom Classic Trucks ]
I get both Kevin. Can't get enough trucks..
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

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Did anybody see the story on this in the current Custom Classic Trucks mag? Gives it the rake similar to the 67 & 68 hoods. I have been waiting to see if some hood supplier would offer a 69 - 72 hood with that 67/68 rake built in. I'd buy it.
Or you could just do away the butt ugly 69-72 front clip all together and go with a 67-68 clip!!!

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Or you could just do away the butt ugly 69-72 front clip all together and go with a 67-68 clip!!!

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Old 06-08-2006, 12:24 AM   #10
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

Just install a 67 hood on your 69-72 front end. Ghetto here on the board did it and I talked to him at length at what was required and I may go that route too. Looks good in my opinion.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:27 AM   #11
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

Kevin,

I have the article and I think it looks good but I like the 67-68 front ends.
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Old 06-08-2006, 10:19 AM   #12
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

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Ghetto here on the board did it and I talked to him at length at what was required and I may go that route too.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Ghetto (aka Somad) banned yet again?
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

i like the look of the 69-72 better, I actually like how it steps up
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

I've thrown this idea around a bit. I have a spare 69-72 hood I've been thinking about experimenting with. In the end I think I'd just go to a full 67-68 clip though. I think this one looks pretty good:
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

is there any way to just take the 67-68 front clip, and modify the grill from a 69-72? Ive never done any type of body work, but it seems a grill would be easier to mod than the rake of a hood
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

I like the look that pie-cutting the hood gives to the truck. As to those who prefer the 67-68 front end (cap), I agree that they're cleaner, but the purpose of the change for 69, was to give our trucks a more macho look. The comment came from Larry Bradley, who designed these trucks "back in the day".

So, changing caps to the first-gen would give us a lower profile and that sweet clean look that Mr. Bradley created. Then, there are those of us, who for one reason or another, either prefer the latter style of hood/grille, OR don't want to change it out.

So, pie-cutting becomes a possibility. In the magazine, the first thing that had to be done was to mark the cut to be made. Then, you have to remove the inner bracing, under the hood. At no point in the article did it mention re-installing the bracing. So, I wonder if they did. The truck in the article had a 71-72 grille and the hood was a 69-70 version. In the opening pictures, there are two bowties on the front of the truck. My truck doesn't have that redundant bowtie option, though.

So, it comes down to getting it done, and even considering creating a mold and doing them up on fiberglass. Thought about. Forgot about it. I don't want to mess with it, but I am sure that someone would be interested. Just add cowl induction, and you're done.
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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

Right you are my friend. I also am wondering about that inner bracing, whether they modified it and reinstalled or left it out. It would be a floppy hood without it. As pointed out in another discussion of the hood the 67/68 front hood angle almost matches the angle of the windshield and the front isn't quite as boxy. I do like it very much but will not be swapping front caps just to get the hood of my choice. I also don't think I will be attempting to cut my own hood. But that's not to say I might not pick up another used one and take a shot at modding it sometime down the road. I think the 67/68 hood also looks better with cowl induction due to that frontal hood angle. JMO guys.
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Well up untill yesterday I had never heard or seen this done on our trucks before. But when I sketched out my plans for the 70 2wd blazer I picked up this is one of many body mods that I will be doing.

Ok I found the mag today and all I can say is if you are not real good at metal work do not try this on a good hood! First off in the second paragraph they say "this is a very simple modification."

First, You need to remove the entire front structure were your hood brace is located. This is not a fun or real simple task if you plan on re-using both parts. Then you will need to brace the hood back up before cutting your layed out lines other wise this thing will end up all over the place. Have you ever tried to align a hood, not alot of fun but think how much fun it would be if it were to twist even an 1/8" per side 1/4" over all! Those body lines would not endd up so hot.

Second, Once the brace is removed and you have re braced the hood allowing you full access to every part of both the inside ond out side you then get to cut 294" of metal with your tool of choise. Keep in mind once you have finished cutting you want these parts to line back up (ya right).

Third, Now that it is al cut and you push the hood down you will find that the two edges are no longer ligned up very well. Reason is that as the front of the hood lowers down it pulls back at the same time making for two uneven planes. The sides will do this as well but not as bad tward the front and almost not at all at the rear. So now is when your talents at hammer and dolly work get to come out as you move both edeges tward each other so you end up with a nice smooth but joint to weld. Once the front and side are lined up right you still will need to deal with the radiused angled corner that will need slicing in atleast two sections to work out corectly.

Fourth, Start welding in small spots far away from each other. As you do this you will need to hammer the welds to get them to sretch back out since they will shrink from the weld. Note Mig welds do not work and move real well so make sure you get that Tig machine out of the corner and use it for this step.

Fith, Once you have finished welding the entire 147" around the hood with out warping things you are ready to slap that brace back inplace and yes this is not an option if you ever want your hood to latch and stay in shape again. Oh i almost forgot you will need to section the same 1 1/2" out of the brace before you re-install it! Verysimple

With that all being said it is not the hardest thing in the word to do just don't think it is any where as easy as the mag made it out to be. This winter I will be doing this on a spare hood that I have and I will do a full write up on how it is done start to finish.

Why do I want to do this? Easy I have a 71 SWB with great front sheet metal and a 70 2wd (first year and not real common) with crappy at best sheet metal. When I asked the wife what she wanted to do with them she chiose the 67-67 front end (I have a nice front 68 end in the attic) for the 71 SWB and she wanted to keep the 70 looking as a 70. So although it wil look like a 70 down to the 6 lug rims it will have every panel tweaked in some direction or another. Most people would not even pick up on most of the mods unless their was a bone stocker side by side to it. I like the look of the 67-68 front ends but I do not want two alike and I do not want this blazer to be a bolt on queen. That is why, you may like it or you may not but I get to say that I did it

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Seems like it would be a whole lot easier to just re-shape the front lip of a 67-68 hood to fit behind the 69-72 outer grille.
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Seems like it would be a whole lot easier to just re-shape the front lip of a 67-68 hood to fit behind the 69-72 outer grille.
Ya but it still would not be thesame look. The front profile of the hoods are completly different. Also I think the 67-68 are layed back just a bit to much and the front of a 69-72 is just a bit to blunt and tall. But my self I just like doing things that most people would not notice or just think is all stock. Think about the 64 4dr Crew cab I am building for a customer and how cool it will be when the first person comes up to him and tells him "my dad had one just like this".

So am I nuts for liking alot of work for small visual changes

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Seems like it would be a whole lot easier to just re-shape the front lip of a 67-68 hood to fit behind the 69-72 outer grille.
Has anyone bolted a 67-68 hood on a later truck? What dimensions do not line up?
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Looks like that's what they did here. Notice how there is no rib running down the center of the front slope.
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Ya but it still would not be thesame look. The front profile of the hoods are completly different. Also I think the 67-68 are layed back just a bit to much and the front of a 69-72 is just a bit to blunt and tall. But my self I just like doing things that most people would not notice or just think is all stock. Think about the 64 4dr Crew cab I am building for a customer and how cool it will be when the first person comes up to him and tells him "my dad had one just like this".

So am I nuts for liking alot of work for small visual changes

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guess what i found an original 66 crew cab 4x4..its either a 3/4 ton or a 1 ton ..... or an original dealer option of some sort.. thats right it was built for the oil drilling rigs in alaska. guy drove it all the way back to iowa. its got a giant wench on the front of it. had a very clean body. hardly any rust. but the box was beat and interior trashed. the guy said he would take 8000.00 dollars for it. wish i had pictures...

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Re: pie cutting 69 to 72 hood

IF Customs did it on this 70. Its toward the bottom.

http://www.ifcustom.com/projects/pro...s-t/travis.htm
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