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10-20-2006, 01:01 PM | #1 |
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Rear shackle flip vs. Lift springs?
I have seen a lot of info on both of these, but never a direct comparison, keeping in mind, particularly, the short wheel base of the K5. I plan on redoing the lift on my 72. I will probably go with a soft ride 6”. Obviously, blocks are out of the question, but which option should I use in the back? I will be around 50% street and 50% moderate off-roading (trails and creek beds). I doubt I will ever put it though any extreme rock crawling or anything like that. Anybody have a pros and cons list? Thanks for the help.
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10-20-2006, 01:34 PM | #2 |
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Re: Rear shackle flip vs. Lift springs?
I have had zero problems with my rear 6" springs, although I put them on during a 3/4 ton axle swap, giving me the opportunity to weld on the new spring perches at a corrected pinion angle.
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10-20-2006, 02:10 PM | #3 |
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Re: Rear shackle flip vs. Lift springs?
I run 4" springs in front and 5.5" springs in the rear. My hwy cruzing is awesome and my offroading is awesome!
I think I read some negative comments once about a shakle flip and towing issues...so if you tow anything with your K5 may want to check on that... Also remember that pre-made spring packs are most likely made to Pick-up weight specs not Blazers so a 4" front and 4" rear will have a saggy butt look. mY setup with a hard top sits level...with out the hardtop it would sit a bit higher in the back...wich I liked better than a saggy butt! Also time will alow springpacks to relax a bit and bring the lift down a bit....
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10-20-2006, 05:55 PM | #4 |
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Re: Rear shackle flip vs. Lift springs?
I run 8" softrides in the rear. I dont like the shackle flip for cosmetic reasons, It moves the centerline of the rear axle. It is a personal preferance because there are many peeps with the flip that love it.
I'm in the process of a major overhaul (cross steer with coomplete 3/4 ton conversion) as we speak, and the shackle flip cross my mind again but i doubt i will carry through. the reason it cross my mind is i'm at 11" of lift and wanted to remove my body lift and put 12" springs up front and a shackle flip in the rear. but my new 39x18 mickeys fit fine under 11" so it'll prolly stay the way it is.
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10-20-2006, 07:56 PM | #5 |
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Re: Rear shackle flip vs. Lift springs?
K5 axle already doesn't sit centered but it is not really noticable until you install larger diameter tires. ORD makes a zero rate pad that will center the axle properly. I have always been told not to tow anything heavy with a first gen k5 due to the fairly short wheelbase and high center of gravity. The 2 nice things with a flip kit is it retains the original ride quality and also alters the pinion angle where shims may not be required depending on lift.
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10-21-2006, 11:17 AM | #6 |
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Re: Rear shackle flip vs. Lift springs?
The problem I had with a shackle flip was that it flattened out the springs and made the ride pretty damn rough. If you do a flip with a flatter set of springs it would work out nice. Of course everytime I post this someone chimes in saying their flip was the best thing since cloning hot celeberties for sex slaves... I digress.
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10-21-2006, 09:24 PM | #7 | |
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Re: Rear shackle flip vs. Lift springs?
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10-22-2006, 12:48 PM | #8 |
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Re: Rear shackle flip vs. Lift springs?
What I meant is that the factory springs are designed to go above the piviot point of the shackle. this requires more natural curve. A set of "flatter" springs, with less natural curve, that are designed to mount with each spring eye much closer to the horizontal plane would work better in this application. I fabbed my own flip kit, FYI.
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