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10-24-2006, 11:01 AM
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Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
Hi All,
Here is a new one that I have not seen... Guy converted a 2wd coil spring truck to a 4x4 truck, but kept the rear coils and trailing arms.... I know this is not where to post trucks for sale from other places, but I am more commenting on how he converted it from 2by to 4by... Craigslist ad 
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10-24-2006, 11:12 AM
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Next project: 1970 K10
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
From the one picture, it looks like the axle is under the trailing arms. Interesting! Can't tell what the two tabs or brackets are that are hanging down inboard from the trailing arms are though.....
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10-24-2006, 01:47 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
That would be a better ride and the rear axle can articulate a lot more, but if you tweek it enough, the bolt holding the spring on is taking all the brunt!! You can get the axle mount pads new, and just swap left for right and putem under the axle instead of on top, get some lift out of it at the same time. I don't know about turning a good 2wd short bed into 4X4, but to each their own!!
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10-24-2006, 01:52 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
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10-24-2006, 01:56 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
Panhard bars can only move so much, right? I think I saw on "Extreme 4x4" where they made some adjustable ones....
Looks to be a sharp truck.
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10-24-2006, 02:13 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
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Yeah, but that spring is it. Up and down the panhard doesn't really regulate that but it does on the side to side. It is a great setup and they use it in one form or another in the CORE trucks, it works or he wouldn't be driving it!! |
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10-24-2006, 02:36 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
can you say... sand dunes? hehe that would be lotsa fun!!..
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10-24-2006, 04:29 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
petersons did a write up truck about doing this to a 65, but they never finished the truck. the 2 part artcile was more about how to set things up from scratch, put a motor in that not only doesnt belong but with no exsiting referance points, how to setup a custom axle and so on. i wanted to do this to my 65 but i just didnt have the ablity when i had the truck.
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10-24-2006, 06:43 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
When I converted my 70 c/10 to 4x4, I installed leaf springs. If I'd have left my old coil springs in, it would have saved a lot of work. I'm sure this is why they left the coils in.
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10-24-2006, 06:54 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
In an old issue of 4X4 mag, there was a similar conversion where the rear was mounted under the trailing arms and the front used a chevy axle mated to ford arms with the spring cups, and standard 3/4 ton front springs, using the standard 2 wheel drive crossmember. The set-up looked good and the only major fabrication was a crossmember for the ford arms.
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10-24-2006, 07:24 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
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10-26-2006, 12:48 AM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
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10-26-2006, 03:02 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
'70,
Can't find the mag, but the diagram shows the basic idea. |
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10-26-2006, 07:26 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
Factory 4x4 4-link...right?
 Kinda like it, has promise IMO. |
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10-26-2006, 08:16 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
Mine was a hevy duty 2wd when I converted it to 4x4 so I already had rear leafs. But in an effort to make it ride better I swaped in the coil set up , using f150 front coils and stock chevy arms with the axle mounted on the bottom, it woked great till I cracked one of the arms. then I made stronger bars and replaced the springs with air bags, now I am back to leafs. the coils and bags sure road better, but with a lifted 4x4 I was woried about blowing a bag on the highway, I think dropping down over a foot would be bad..
 
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10-24-2006, 07:05 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
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10-26-2006, 10:21 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
i think the main concern would be adding a swivel joint to the front of the trailing arms as that would be a major stress point. i would also probalby go to a whatts link or 3 link instead of the panhard bar. otherwise i don't see any reason why doing this conversion would be difficult or unrealistic.
as a perk nascar allready uses a swivel joint for there trailing arms. lucky for us they slide right in the bushing sleaves and are somewhat cheap. |
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05-16-2022, 12:37 AM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
Just googled 4x4 with trailing arms and this thread popped up.
Other than it being odd, what really would be an issue?
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05-16-2022, 01:54 AM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
An old thread, pretty cool. Thought about this on my project. Would not have used stock trailing arms. The custom Deaver spring packs I chose will work for me and kept cost lower. I started with a rear leaf truck though. Love to see custom mods people do.
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05-16-2022, 07:46 AM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
Back then I recall seeing a Grapefruit Yellow Suburban converted to 4wd, retaining the coil rear suspension. It was lifted with big tires. That makes two I know of, but none since.
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05-16-2022, 02:29 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
When I brought this up on the 4x4 side a little while back Tim you mentioned that Burb and I was pretty sure I knew the one you were talking about. I searched the board for a long time trying to find it, but Ive never been the greatest at search. I personally like the idea of converting like this. I have a set of cucv ten bolt axels that have been sitting in the barn forever. It keeps me thinking of this swap, but I also think realistically Ill never do it and should just put the axles on Craigslist.
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05-16-2022, 04:11 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
with some Johnny joints at the mounting points for the trailing arms it would probably articulate better than leaf springs.
I considered making my 67 into a 4wd and I talked to ORD about this very thing, using their front 4 link kit, the guy told me that it would work just fine with the rear trailing arm suspension...
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05-16-2022, 10:06 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
For light duty trail runs/fire roads, occasional snow storm, and the boat ramp, which is my guess that most vintage 4x4’s are used for, I think keeping the trailing arm suspension would make far a great 4x4 conversion.
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05-17-2022, 08:50 PM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
Where would you get rear coil springs to bring the truck high enough in the rear to match a converted to leafs front? Seems like most all of the conversion "kits" for the front C to K are close to 4 inch lift. If I ever did this the most I would want would be 2 inch.
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05-18-2022, 05:09 AM
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Re: Have not seen this one before... 4x4 using trailing arms
If I did this conversion, I wouldn't want to be any higher than what my 66 is now.
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