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powerdriver 1958 · 12-02-2006, 08:29 AM

ive heard some guys talking about it but never seen it.does it really help?my truck has 6"lift and 4"body lift and the steering kinda sucks. got any pictures? its a 83 3/4

b454rat · 12-02-2006, 08:51 AM

Not a very good pic. Instead of the draglink going forward and backward, it go left to right. The DL connects to the pass side knuckle instead of the driver side. When you go over 6" or so, really should go this route.

powerdriver 1958 · 12-02-2006, 09:01 AM

can this be bought as a kit or do you retro fit other parts

**Yukon Jack** · 12-02-2006, 10:54 AM

www.offroaddesign.com has a full kit as do a number of other 4x4 websites.

**kwmech** · 12-02-2006, 12:50 PM

Try this also--right down the road from me-- www.partsmike.com

johnnywagon · 12-02-2006, 01:14 PM

Most chevs can survive mild 4x4ing w/o crossover steering but any significant "wheelin" w/o it will cause boo-koo probs. Not to mention all the stress put on the driverside leaf spring/frame and components. I have lots of gorey details if you want.

b454rat · 12-02-2006, 04:57 PM

The dropped arm and crossover arm pretty much have to be bought, at least the crossover does. Some trucks and vans from Ford and Jeep have a drop to them with the right splines, but are short, won't steer the same either way, one side goes farther than the other. The draglink can be made, i made mine out of a 3 peice tierod off 80s trucks. Shorten to whatever length you need. GM DLE thread right into it.

msgross · 12-03-2006, 07:39 PM

don't you have to switch gearboxes as well? I have a set of flat top knuckles if you need to buy a set. here is a link on the x-over steering...

http://www.offroaddesign.com/Dana44crossover.htm

b454rat · 12-03-2006, 07:48 PM

Forgot about the steering box, mine is factory set up like that

Easiest way is to get a 2wd box from the same year truck and swap it in. And need a set of flattops off a 70s 1/2 or 3/4 ton. Dodge are the same IIRC, just the tierod goes down instead of up. Could have that backwards...

*1tonswb* · 12-04-2006, 02:05 AM

You do have to use a 2wd box. The pitman arm I use is the late model dodge pitman arms. I think its off of the late 90,s to 2001. The arm fits on the sector shaft but I did have to reverse the taper for the drank link. Other pitman arms that I have used in the past is superlift 4 inch for 78-79 ford broncos and f-150s. Althought you still have to ream the taper out. Ive always ran dana 60s so the steering arm is a bolt on. For the drag link I use 1 inch solid round steel and turn the ends down to 7/8 and then weld the adjusting sleeves to it. Or you can cut 7/8 24tpi threads for the adjusting sleeves. The drag link ends are factory 73-91 pieces. Its fairly easy to build and you gain so much.

drink2mny · 12-04-2006, 09:40 AM

Don't forget about us..

http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index12.html

Which we also support this site.

Crossover steering is a great improvement or a dropped pitman arm or a raised steering arm. It reduces bumpsteer and helps alot better when playing offroad in the ruts.

You won't fight your steering as much when just driving on the roads and hitting bumps and potholes.

I had it on my 86' blazer when I had a 44 up front and then on my 60 when I went one ton.

worked well with 36" and 38" swampers..
Give us a call if you have any questions..

12-02-2006, 08:29 AM	#1
powerdriver 1958 Kid's Mechanic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City Posts: 8,241	what is crossover steering ive heard some guys talking about it but never seen it.does it really help?my truck has 6"lift and 4"body lift and the steering kinda sucks. got any pictures? its a 83 3/4 Last edited by powerdriver 1958; 12-02-2006 at 08:35 AM. Reason: more info

12-02-2006, 08:51 AM	#2
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,469	Re: what is crossover steering Not a very good pic. Instead of the draglink going forward and backward, it go left to right. The DL connects to the pass side knuckle instead of the driver side. When you go over 6" or so, really should go this route. __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 4” SAS 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 6" SAS

12-02-2006, 09:01 AM	#3
powerdriver 1958 Kid's Mechanic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City Posts: 8,241	Re: what is crossover steering can this be bought as a kit or do you retro fit other parts Last edited by powerdriver 1958; 12-02-2006 at 09:02 AM.

12-02-2006, 10:54 AM	#4
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,686	Re: what is crossover steering www.offroaddesign.com has a full kit as do a number of other 4x4 websites. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

12-02-2006, 12:50 PM	#5
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,628	Re: what is crossover steering Try this also--right down the road from me-- www.partsmike.com

12-02-2006, 01:14 PM	#6
johnnywagon Sofa King. We, Todd, Ed. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spokane, Wa. Posts: 631	Re: what is crossover steering Most chevs can survive mild 4x4ing w/o crossover steering but any significant "wheelin" w/o it will cause boo-koo probs. Not to mention all the stress put on the driverside leaf spring/frame and components. I have lots of gorey details if you want. __________________ ~John 71 Blazer One Ton 65 Chevelle Station Wagon x2 59 Belair 2 Door 71 Chevy Open Road Van RV www.myspace.com/johnnywagon Last edited by johnnywagon; 12-02-2006 at 03:31 PM.

12-02-2006, 04:57 PM	#7
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,469	Re: what is crossover steering The dropped arm and crossover arm pretty much have to be bought, at least the crossover does. Some trucks and vans from Ford and Jeep have a drop to them with the right splines, but are short, won't steer the same either way, one side goes farther than the other. The draglink can be made, i made mine out of a 3 peice tierod off 80s trucks. Shorten to whatever length you need. GM DLE thread right into it. __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 4” SAS 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 6" SAS

12-03-2006, 07:39 PM	#8
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: what is crossover steering don't you have to switch gearboxes as well? I have a set of flat top knuckles if you need to buy a set. here is a link on the x-over steering... http://www.offroaddesign.com/Dana44crossover.htm

12-03-2006, 07:48 PM	#9
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,469	Re: what is crossover steering Forgot about the steering box, mine is factory set up like that Easiest way is to get a 2wd box from the same year truck and swap it in. And need a set of flattops off a 70s 1/2 or 3/4 ton. Dodge are the same IIRC, just the tierod goes down instead of up. Could have that backwards... __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 4” SAS 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 6" SAS

12-04-2006, 02:05 AM	#10
1tonswb Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 300	Re: what is crossover steering You do have to use a 2wd box. The pitman arm I use is the late model dodge pitman arms. I think its off of the late 90,s to 2001. The arm fits on the sector shaft but I did have to reverse the taper for the drank link. Other pitman arms that I have used in the past is superlift 4 inch for 78-79 ford broncos and f-150s. Althought you still have to ream the taper out. Ive always ran dana 60s so the steering arm is a bolt on. For the drag link I use 1 inch solid round steel and turn the ends down to 7/8 and then weld the adjusting sleeves to it. Or you can cut 7/8 24tpi threads for the adjusting sleeves. The drag link ends are factory 73-91 pieces. Its fairly easy to build and you gain so much. Attached Images

12-04-2006, 09:40 AM	#11
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	Re: what is crossover steering Don't forget about us.. http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index12.html Which we also support this site. Crossover steering is a great improvement or a dropped pitman arm or a raised steering arm. It reduces bumpsteer and helps alot better when playing offroad in the ruts. You won't fight your steering as much when just driving on the roads and hitting bumps and potholes. I had it on my 86' blazer when I had a 44 up front and then on my 60 when I went one ton. worked well with 36" and 38" swampers.. Give us a call if you have any questions.. __________________ Support The Board Last edited by drink2mny; 12-04-2006 at 09:41 AM.



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