Harmonic Balancer question - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

skokie · 01-20-2007, 10:07 PM

Is it normal for a harmonic balancer to move a little left to right when you grab it and try to turn it left or right?
If not then since I have the truck apart this would be a good time to replace it.

Thanks

skokie · 01-20-2007, 10:09 PM

Forgot to ask if I do need to replace the balancer (6 3/4 inch on the 350 now) what would be a good one to replace it with?

kenm78 · 01-20-2007, 10:20 PM

Check this link out

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

skokie · 01-20-2007, 10:53 PM

If I replace should I stay with a 6 3/4 or move up to a 8?

68C15 · 01-20-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by skokie

If I replace should I stay with a 6 3/4 or move up to a 8?

the 8" will be more effective yet cause troubles unless you change your timing pointer at same time.

is the crank turning? (timing chain worn)
is just the outter ring turning? (rubber seperated and ready to unleash catastrophic damage)

jimfulco · 01-20-2007, 11:29 PM

Be sure the keyway in the crank snout's not wallered out.

skokie · 01-20-2007, 11:39 PM

The crank is moving. The balancer is not.

**southern parts** · 01-21-2007, 08:18 AM

Sounds like the timing chain needs to be replaced.

ghackett1 · 01-21-2007, 08:55 AM

Definately not right. The balancer should not have any "Play" in it. I agree with the above. Bad keyway, balancer, or timing chain is loose. I would pull the balancer and check that first then go from there.

Ram-Man · 01-21-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skokie

The crank is moving. The balancer is not.

If the crank is moving you have more than balancer problems. Sound like main bearing problems to me.

**VetteVet** · 01-21-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skokie

The crank is moving. The balancer is not.

This makes no sense to me. Are you sure you don't have it wrong and the balancer is moving but the crank is not?
With timing chain slop it is normal for the balancer which is mounted to the crankshaft to move a little left to right. Do you have the bolt in the center of the balancer out so you can see the crank, otherwise how do you know the balancer is moving on the crank? I think what you have is just normal wear on the timing chain. VV

Boise69 · 01-21-2007, 11:32 AM

"Its only going to be out of the truck for the amount of time it takes to change the flexplate, clean the engine bay, and repaint the engine".

who wants to bet on how long it will actually be out of the truck??

skokie · 01-21-2007, 07:18 PM

I do have the bolt out of the center and it is the crank that is moving not the balancer.

*rage'nrat638* · 01-21-2007, 08:08 PM

well brad this is one of those things ,, like a snow ball rolling down a hill..

first it's just a paint job then a balancer then a timing chain and gears, then a cam and lifters, it's turn a blind eye.. or dig in..

don't you just love trucks

are you talking it moves up and down?= very bad things or rotate's back and forth..this is a loose timing chain..

skokie · 01-23-2007, 01:18 AM

To answer marks question YES I DO

HAHAHAH. And the funniest part is that I am not one bit upset about it. A part of me is saying well since you have to take off that balancer why not pop that timing cover off and have a lookie.

There are times that I dont listen to that part of me and for good reason hahah

RACINJASON22 · 01-23-2007, 02:39 AM

I'm with you vettevet I don't know how skokie knows the crank is moving if the balancers not how are you moving the crank.

01-20-2007, 10:07 PM	#1
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,343	Harmonic Balancer question Is it normal for a harmonic balancer to move a little left to right when you grab it and try to turn it left or right? If not then since I have the truck apart this would be a good time to replace it. Thanks __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

01-20-2007, 10:09 PM	#2
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,343	Re: Harmonic Balancer question Forgot to ask if I do need to replace the balancer (6 3/4 inch on the 350 now) what would be a good one to replace it with? __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

01-20-2007, 10:20 PM	#3
kenm78 Broken Down Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Choctaw, Oklahoma Posts: 1,267	Re: Harmonic Balancer question Check this link out http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku __________________ kenm78 1982 Chevy 4X4 Project truck “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people wonder about your ignorance, than open your mouth and reveal all doubt”

01-20-2007, 10:53 PM	#4
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,343	Re: Harmonic Balancer question If I replace should I stay with a 6 3/4 or move up to a 8? __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

01-20-2007, 11:29 PM	#6
jimfulco Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport LA Posts: 3,170	Re: Harmonic Balancer question Be sure the keyway in the crank snout's not wallered out.

01-20-2007, 11:39 PM	#7
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,343	Re: Harmonic Balancer question The crank is moving. The balancer is not. __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

01-21-2007, 08:18 AM	#8
southern parts Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Elberton Ga. Posts: 3,470	Re: Harmonic Balancer question Sounds like the timing chain needs to be replaced.

01-21-2007, 08:55 AM	#9
ghackett1 68 C10 Longbed Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 518	Re: Harmonic Balancer question Definately not right. The balancer should not have any "Play" in it. I agree with the above. Bad keyway, balancer, or timing chain is loose. I would pull the balancer and check that first then go from there.

01-21-2007, 11:32 AM	#12
Boise69 The Hammer Man Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 864	Re: Harmonic Balancer question "Its only going to be out of the truck for the amount of time it takes to change the flexplate, clean the engine bay, and repaint the engine". who wants to bet on how long it will actually be out of the truck?? __________________ Boise69. Bought in Boise ID and its a '69 ___________________________________________ 1969 Chevy C-10 SWB 350/400 - drivable project www.americanhammer.com 2013 MBZ Sprinter customized 2005 MBZ Sprinter Van 2004 Land Rover Discovery 2001 Yamaha Road Star 1997 MBZ E420 1989 Ferrari Mondial T

01-21-2007, 07:18 PM	#13
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,343	Re: Harmonic Balancer question I do have the bolt out of the center and it is the crank that is moving not the balancer. __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

01-21-2007, 08:08 PM	#14
rage'nrat638 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: THE FALL GUY CHICAGO IL Posts: 5,883	Re: Harmonic Balancer question well brad this is one of those things ,, like a snow ball rolling down a hill.. first it's just a paint job then a balancer then a timing chain and gears, then a cam and lifters, it's turn a blind eye.. or dig in.. don't you just love trucks are you talking it moves up and down?= very bad things or rotate's back and forth..this is a loose timing chain.. Last edited by rage'nrat638; 01-21-2007 at 08:10 PM.

01-23-2007, 01:18 AM	#15
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,343	Re: Harmonic Balancer question To answer marks question YES I DO HAHAHAH. And the funniest part is that I am not one bit upset about it. A part of me is saying well since you have to take off that balancer why not pop that timing cover off and have a lookie. There are times that I dont listen to that part of me and for good reason hahah __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

01-23-2007, 02:39 AM	#16
RACINJASON22 GEARHEAD Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CENTRAL,PA Posts: 2,284	Re: Harmonic Balancer question I'm with you vettevet I don't know how skokie knows the crank is moving if the balancers not how are you moving the crank.



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