Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

whatnow123 · 03-26-2007, 03:43 PM

Hi Everyone,

I want rear disks only because of the "bling" factor and the wheels I want to buy. Do the calipers Blackbird uses look okay?

So, does anyone know if they are going to run another $350 special? I didn't own my truck last time and they gave a teaser about running it again in the spring. Well, spring time is here...

Maybe if we get enough people... anyone else interested in rear disks?

LUV2XCLR8 · 03-26-2007, 04:15 PM

Drink said they were gonna try in the spring, heh it is spring, whataya waiting on Drink?

pcmcobra · 03-26-2007, 06:30 PM

I'm interested!

lngbed71 · 03-26-2007, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnow123

Do the calipers Blackbird uses look okay?

Yup, I've got their stuff on mine and I asked that the calipers be powder coated. They turned out AWESOME. My ride ain't with me now, but next chance I get, I'll snap a few pics fer ya...JK Where are you Drink??

whatnow123 · 03-27-2007, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lngbed71

Yup, I've got their stuff on mine and I asked that the calipers be powder coated. They turned out AWESOME. My ride ain't with me now, but next chance I get, I'll snap a few pics fer ya...JK Where are you Drink??

That would be awesome to have a photo!

Anyone else if they have a special?

jlaird · 03-26-2007, 09:02 PM

I might be interested too. Either blackbird or impala rear brakes with camaro calipers.....if glock ever gets his a$$ in gear with those brackets!!! LOL

ChevyDude · 03-27-2007, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlaird

I might be interested too. Either blackbird or impala rear brakes with camaro calipers.....if glock ever gets his a$$ in gear with those brackets!!! LOL

I want some rear disc too! Oh....Glock, what cha doin'????

LOL!!!

Alex

glock35ipsc · 03-27-2007, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChevyDude

I want some rear disc too! Oh....Glock, what cha doin'????

LOL!!!

Alex

Workin my arse off!!!!

Actually, I am going to cut a set of brackets tonight. Another board member is sending me his Camaro calipers so I can test fit everything to the 68. Coming soon!!!!!!

retselgerg · 03-27-2007, 01:33 PM

yep id get them for 350...

Goodguytrucks · 03-27-2007, 01:47 PM

I was just going to ask that question...Do anyone know of any companies that sell conversion kits for rear brakes. I found www.steeltechsolutions.com

whatnow123 · 03-27-2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodguytrucks

I was just going to ask that question...Do anyone know of any companies that sell conversion kits for rear brakes. I found www.steeltechsolutions.com

Blackbird is a board vendor and I've heard nothing but good things about their kits. Here is the link.

http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index7.html

Drink.. where are you?

SCOTI · 03-27-2007, 02:32 PM

I've looked @ alot of these 'kits' in my research & there's one common complaint I have w/these companies..... why isn't the rotor size/type listed in the parts descriptions?

It sure would be nice to know what size rotor I was looking at.

whatnow123 · 03-28-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

I've looked @ alot of these 'kits' in my research & there's one common complaint I have w/these companies..... why isn't the rotor size/type listed in the parts descriptions?

It sure would be nice to know what size rotor I was looking at.

Is this so you would know if your wheel would fit over the disk or do you want to make sure it's bigger than a doughnut?

SCOTI · 03-28-2007, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnow123

Is this so you would know if your wheel would fit over the disk or do you want to make sure it's bigger than a doughnut?

Both

.

I would be interested in 12" rear discs.... nothing smaller.

Snew · 03-27-2007, 02:21 PM

Do you need to change out the master cylinder when you put rear discs on?

LUV2XCLR8 · 03-27-2007, 02:58 PM

Drink once said that they could not "Publish" all of the spec's or you might
just be able to go out and get all the stuff yourself, buisness is buisness.

onetonk5 · 03-27-2007, 10:26 PM

TSM has good kits.
You can buy weld on caliper mounts from several places.
From what i have seen BlackBird stuff is expensive not that for some people its not worth it.

lowrollin70gmc · 03-27-2007, 10:33 PM

If you PM the maker of Blackbird he will tell you the OD of the rotors. I did this a while ago and found out, although I have forgotten by now.

wibilly · 03-27-2007, 11:12 PM

all of the aftermarket caliper brackets i have seen [ i'm not saying all but what i have and others i've seen] support the caliper on just the thickness of the bracket un like factory brackets that support the caliper in at least two points where they slide. when i do my next truck i will use a set of factory brackets from either a eldorodo or a 4wd front. the brackets i've seen are suitable for a template forcutting the arc on whatever set of factory brackets you chose and nothing more imo

whatnow123 · 04-02-2007, 12:43 PM

By converting to rear disks, does anyone know how much if at all does it move the rear wheel outward?

rodstored-72 · 04-02-2007, 04:22 PM

i guess this might be a little off topic but i purchased the rear disk kit from classic performance products (cpp). i am very happy with the whole kit & they seem to work really well. i paid alot more then the sale price that you guys are mentioning, but the kit was very easy to install, no fab work needed at all. for the price that you guys are mentioning though, unless there is alot of fab work needed, i would be interested as well!!!

that is avery good price....
rodstored-72

drink2mny · 04-02-2007, 10:31 PM

Well...Well..Well... Trying to call me out.......

I see how this is going to go.... hhmmm.. Lets really see what I said in the october special sale we did.. Shall we....http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...7&postcount=20

To tell you guys the truth, we have not been thinking of doing a sale this spring. We have been busy at the shop with alot of local customers and sales off of another message board..SSHHH....

As I always state, we are an option out of many on the internet.
You guys do know I will gladly tell you replacement part numbers after you have become a customer.
As for a proportion valve. We leave that up to the customer. It is ultimately thier choice how they want their pedal to feal and work.
I have stated before, I have personally installed over 15 kits on vehicles without changing the valve. All of those vehicles are still on the road with happy customers.
I have sold some kits that people have changed out the valve and said it helped.
I will tell you... If you already have brake problems please try to fix that before ordering a kit from us or anyone else. the thought that rear disc would fix the issue seems to not really fix the issue...

Now back to the post at hand.......
I talked with Randy Blackbird, you know.. 'cause were friends

I am not sure how we could do this. He said if there were atleast 5 people from the board SERIOUSLY interested in getting that same type of deal. He would consider doing it for a 1.. I repeat.. a 1 day sale with the crazy business of the shop right now, we can't afford the time to carry longer than that.

So I ask.. If you are serious about getting the "buy a kit without calipers and get free non-ebrake calipers with them" Then Please PM me..
If i get atleast 5 board members by lets say...........Friday........Then would it be safe to say we could make a date for a day next week for the sale.....

Again.. PM me before by midnight Friday night with what type of kit you are interested in...Please only serious customers..
click here for Products and Pricing pages

SCOTI · 04-02-2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drink2mny

....You guys do know I will gladly tell you replacement part numbers after you have become a customer.

I don't want part numbers or any kind of insider info, but I would like to 'know' & not assume the size of the rear rotors.

Is it possible to share this info?

drink2mny · 04-03-2007, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

I don't want part numbers or any kind of insider info, but I would like to 'know' & not assume the size of the rear rotors.

Is it possible to share this info?

For which kit?

EDIT:
6 lug is 11 5/32 dia
Of course most 3/4-1 ton kits are a standard chevy 3/4 rotor.. Not all..

SCOTI · 04-03-2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drink2mny

For which kit?

I guess that would help..... 68 truck 12-bolt w/5-lug axle conversion.

03-26-2007, 03:43 PM	#1
whatnow123 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 835	Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom Hi Everyone, I want rear disks only because of the "bling" factor and the wheels I want to buy. Do the calipers Blackbird uses look okay? So, does anyone know if they are going to run another $350 special? I didn't own my truck last time and they gave a teaser about running it again in the spring. Well, spring time is here... Maybe if we get enough people... anyone else interested in rear disks? __________________ 67 Short Step, 355, 700R 4.11 posi rear, 4/6 drop Discs on all 4 corners. Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=219094 Last edited by whatnow123; 03-26-2007 at 06:38 PM.

03-26-2007, 04:15 PM	#2
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,474	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom Drink said they were gonna try in the spring, heh it is spring, whataya waiting on Drink? __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

03-26-2007, 06:30 PM	#3
pcmcobra Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 1,684	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom I'm interested! __________________ 1986 C10 SWB 6.0/6l90e Miami...Flee it like a native

03-26-2007, 09:02 PM	#6
jlaird Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: johnstown, NY Posts: 2,393	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom I might be interested too. Either blackbird or impala rear brakes with camaro calipers.....if glock ever gets his a$$ in gear with those brackets!!! LOL

03-27-2007, 01:33 PM	#9
retselgerg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grundy Virginia Posts: 385	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom yep id get them for 350... __________________ "OLE BLUE" Goodwrench 350, 5speed, Tilt, PS, PB, "some guys got into cars for money or girls but i got into cars because of the cars" -Jay Leno

03-27-2007, 01:47 PM	#10
Goodguytrucks Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boyle, Alberta, Canada Posts: 126	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom I was just going to ask that question...Do anyone know of any companies that sell conversion kits for rear brakes. I found www.steeltechsolutions.com

03-27-2007, 02:32 PM	#12
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,144	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom I've looked @ alot of these 'kits' in my research & there's one common complaint I have w/these companies..... why isn't the rotor size/type listed in the parts descriptions? It sure would be nice to know what size rotor I was looking at. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

03-27-2007, 02:21 PM	#15
Snew Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 28	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom Do you need to change out the master cylinder when you put rear discs on?

03-27-2007, 02:58 PM	#16
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,474	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom Drink once said that they could not "Publish" all of the spec's or you might just be able to go out and get all the stuff yourself, buisness is buisness. __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

03-27-2007, 10:26 PM	#17
onetonk5 Cereal Killer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 639	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom TSM has good kits. You can buy weld on caliper mounts from several places. From what i have seen BlackBird stuff is expensive not that for some people its not worth it. __________________ If I dont do it....somebody else will.

03-27-2007, 10:33 PM	#18
lowrollin70gmc Too many projects Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fargo, ND land of the flat hills Posts: 1,147	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom If you PM the maker of Blackbird he will tell you the OD of the rotors. I did this a while ago and found out, although I have forgotten by now. __________________ Andrew 84 GMC C1500 SWB 6.2 Diesel/700R4/3.42 "Grandpa's odd duck" 70 GMC C1500 LWB My first truck: shaved, bagged, and more: the lowrollin70gmc 68 K20 Suburban 12V Cummins/NV5600/NP205/D60/11.5AAM 3.73s "Dakota Cadillac" 63 Chevy II Nova Coupe 250 I6/T56/4.56s "Economy car" 53 Willys Wagon 350/NV4500/BW4401/HP D44/9inch “Winter Wagon” 30 Model A 16 Focus ST

03-27-2007, 11:12 PM	#19
wibilly Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwestern wi Posts: 2,111	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom all of the aftermarket caliper brackets i have seen [ i'm not saying all but what i have and others i've seen] support the caliper on just the thickness of the bracket un like factory brackets that support the caliper in at least two points where they slide. when i do my next truck i will use a set of factory brackets from either a eldorodo or a 4wd front. the brackets i've seen are suitable for a template forcutting the arc on whatever set of factory brackets you chose and nothing more imo __________________ common sense isn't so common anymore

04-02-2007, 12:43 PM	#20
whatnow123 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 835	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom By converting to rear disks, does anyone know how much if at all does it move the rear wheel outward? __________________ 67 Short Step, 355, 700R 4.11 posi rear, 4/6 drop Discs on all 4 corners. Build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=219094

04-02-2007, 04:22 PM	#21
rodstored-72 chevy truck fan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gilbert, arizona 85298 Posts: 2,043	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom i guess this might be a little off topic but i purchased the rear disk kit from classic performance products (cpp). i am very happy with the whole kit & they seem to work really well. i paid alot more then the sale price that you guys are mentioning, but the kit was very easy to install, no fab work needed at all. for the price that you guys are mentioning though, unless there is alot of fab work needed, i would be interested as well!!! that is avery good price.... rodstored-72

04-02-2007, 10:31 PM	#22
drink2mny Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: spokane wa Posts: 2,189	Re: Rear Disc brakes by Blackbirds Custom Well...Well..Well... Trying to call me out....... I see how this is going to go.... hhmmm.. Lets really see what I said in the october special sale we did.. Shall we....http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...7&postcount=20 To tell you guys the truth, we have not been thinking of doing a sale this spring. We have been busy at the shop with alot of local customers and sales off of another message board..SSHHH.... As I always state, we are an option out of many on the internet. You guys do know I will gladly tell you replacement part numbers after you have become a customer. As for a proportion valve. We leave that up to the customer. It is ultimately thier choice how they want their pedal to feal and work. I have stated before, I have personally installed over 15 kits on vehicles without changing the valve. All of those vehicles are still on the road with happy customers. I have sold some kits that people have changed out the valve and said it helped. I will tell you... If you already have brake problems please try to fix that before ordering a kit from us or anyone else. the thought that rear disc would fix the issue seems to not really fix the issue... Now back to the post at hand....... I talked with Randy Blackbird, you know.. 'cause were friends I am not sure how we could do this. He said if there were atleast 5 people from the board SERIOUSLY interested in getting that same type of deal. He would consider doing it for a 1.. I repeat.. a 1 day sale with the crazy business of the shop right now, we can't afford the time to carry longer than that. So I ask.. If you are serious about getting the "buy a kit without calipers and get free non-ebrake calipers with them" Then Please PM me.. If i get atleast 5 board members by lets say...........Friday........Then would it be safe to say we could make a date for a day next week for the sale..... Again.. PM me before by midnight Friday night with what type of kit you are interested in...Please only serious customers.. click here for Products and Pricing pages Attached Images __________________ Support The Board



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