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10-06-2007, 04:09 PM | #1 |
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Help! broke vacuum tree on thermostat housing!
I was trying to remove the thermostat housing and in the process I broke off a port on the vacuum tree that is attached to the thermostat housing, then I tried to take the tree off and it wouldn't budge, only broke more... So I need to know if this is a necessary part in the vacuum system and if not where do I plug it off at?
broken tree really old and messed up old housing I had this thermostat housing that I was wanting to use, but dont know if I can because of the tree. These 2 hoses connected, and then plugged into the top port on the tree, the bottom port was connected to the exhaust or somthing around there... Last edited by Rc 415; 10-06-2007 at 04:12 PM. |
10-06-2007, 04:15 PM | #2 |
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Re: Help! broke vacuum tree on thermostat housing!
I am talking about the efe tvs thing in this diagram |
10-06-2007, 09:52 PM | #3 |
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Re: Help! broke vacuum tree on thermostat housing!
Here's a link that explains what the EFE part of your system does.
http://dnr.louisiana.gov/sec/execdiv...p/auto/n/n.htm I'm don't know a whole lot about it, but I THINK the EFE device that the vacuum switch controls is that butterfly valve in the exhaust pipe on the passenger side just after the exhaust manifold. When the engine is cold, the butterfly is closed to make the exhaust manifold get hotter faster, which helps with fuel evaporation, and also gets warm air going up that silver flexible hose on the passenger side to the air cleaner. It's all fine and dandy assuming everything else in the system is working correctly, like the little thermostat thing in the air cleaner housing that controls that vacuum flapper in the air cleaner intake snorkle. All that said, I don't know if that EVE TVS that you broke sends vacuum to that butterfly valve in the exhaust when the motor is cold, or after it warms up. In ohter words, don't know if vacuum applied to the butterfly valve opens it or closes it, but I THINK vacuum closes it while the motor is cold, and that switch you broke cuts off the vacuum to it after the water gets hot. In theory, everything in the system is suppose to be in place and working to pass inspection, well, at least here in Houston where they do the emissions test. But if you think about it, you truck is warmed up when you go to get it inspected, so the EFE system is already turned off when you get there. So bypassing this wouldn't make you fail the test, but they might no pass you if they notice it's been done. I THINK all it would do, if bypassed, is produce a little more emissions when the engine is cold, may cause the choke to open a little slower (if you're carbureted and have a choke).
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10-06-2007, 09:54 PM | #4 |
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Re: Help! broke vacuum tree on thermostat housing!
By the way, really like the flat black. Been wanting to do that to mine for a long time. Maybe someday.....
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10-08-2007, 02:46 PM | #5 |
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Re: Help! broke vacuum tree on thermostat housing!
I think mcpaul is mostly correct however I believe the EFE valve is located on the drivers side and when the engine is cold the valve is activated by vacuum which causes the exhaust gases to pass through the intake manifold and exit through the opposite exhaust manifold.
If you plug the vacuum line, the performance will degrade slightly during cold engine running and you will have higher emissions during that time. Hope this helps
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10-08-2007, 08:35 PM | #6 |
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Re: Help! broke vacuum tree on thermostat housing!
Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it, blocked off the hoses and it works great. I like the flat black too, a lot of people do actually, unfortunately its fading really bad on the hood and roof, so I gotta start saving for the paint job now...
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