The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-15-2007, 10:12 PM   #1
bigblock79
67 Chevy Stepside
 
bigblock79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Jonesville NC
Posts: 836
oil is getting gone please help

ok i got this 84 with a new crate 350 goodwhench. oil is getting gone and it don't leak a drop on payment. the tailgate gets black all over it and the bumper. it is dry sut is what it feels like and the tail pipes are not oiley just black sut. it wips right off and is dry. if you drive it 50 miles on hiway you will put a quart and a half of oil in it if you drive it about 100 mies on back rode. it will lose 2 quarts. the harder you drive the more it drinks oil. it the oil on the tailgate was wet i would know wher it is going. it got a elderbrock carb and a power plus intake the motor is really dry all over it does have a oil pan bolt broke off in it. you can tell a little comes out but not enough to even leak. need help 15$ a week for oil gets high. thanks sorry so long
__________________
1967 Chevy stepside
1976 BIG DOOLEY 454 turbo 400 4:11
bigblock79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2007, 10:36 PM   #2
C10-Driver
Chevy Truck Addict
 
C10-Driver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Kelowna, BC
Posts: 1,176
Re: oil is getting gone please help

I have heard that a PCV valve that isn't working will suck the oil out of your engine like crazy. Did you put in a new one when you changed the engine?
__________________
.
1970 Chev C/10 SWB, 355 SBC, 700R4, 3.73 Posi, Air Ride (Click to view Build Thread) (SOLD)
1978 Chevy C/10 SWB
1970 Pontiac Lemans
.
C10-Driver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2007, 11:09 PM   #3
Hoods69BadBowTie
Chevys Kick A$$
 
Hoods69BadBowTie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Zootown, MT
Posts: 12,699
Re: oil is getting gone please help

Damn that don't make no sense that oil has to be going somewhere. Have heard that about pcv valve but theres no way its sucking that much up.
__________________
*HOODS is what I answer too*
-'79, '77, '88 Pickup Sold, '85 Camaro, '83 T/A, '81,'83,'90 K5 Blazer All Sold
-'79 3/4 ton "Big Yellow Bananna" Lifted 4spd. 39.5 TSL Swampers, The money Pit
-'86 K5 Blazer Silverado 6.2 4" lift 35"s
-'95 Ext. Cab Shorty 4" Tuff Country rolling 35" M/T's
-'83 Monte Carlo T-Tops. 126,500 Original Miles
-LATER
I would rather push a Chevy then drive a ford!!
Hoods69BadBowTie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2007, 11:23 PM   #4
C10-Driver
Chevy Truck Addict
 
C10-Driver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Kelowna, BC
Posts: 1,176
Re: oil is getting gone please help

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoods69BadBowTie View Post
Damn that don't make no sense that oil has to be going somewhere. Have heard that about pcv valve but theres no way its sucking that much up.
I wouldn't think so either but the PCV is hooked up to a vacuum source and, so I've been told, it will suck the oil right out of your engine.
__________________
.
1970 Chev C/10 SWB, 355 SBC, 700R4, 3.73 Posi, Air Ride (Click to view Build Thread) (SOLD)
1978 Chevy C/10 SWB
1970 Pontiac Lemans
.
C10-Driver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 12:03 AM   #5
j hannah
comfortably numb
 
j hannah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tulsa,oklahoma
Posts: 175
Re: oil is getting gone please help

I think I would be getting in touch with Mr Goodwrench, something isnt right inside if its going through that much oil.
__________________
1974 gmc 3/4 t. c/s

1974 chevy k-10
1973 pontiac grandville(turnpike cruiser)
j hannah is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 12:16 AM   #6
Zoomad75
K5Camper
 
Zoomad75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pueblo, CO
Posts: 1,513
Re: oil is getting gone please help

Pull the spark plugs. Your burning oil if it's not leaking out on the ground. Keep track of what cylinders the plugs came from. If it was truely the PCV allowing it to suck oil, the cylinders that are fed by the runners nearest the vaccum port where the PCV connects should be more oily that the others.

If you only have 1 or 2 cylinders with oily plugs you might have an issue with valve seals or stuck oil control rings on the pistons. Finding stiff/brittle valve seals could lead you to worn valve guides.

While you got the plugs out you might want to go ahead a run a compression test and see if the pressure is on the low side, indicating poor ring seal (or a possible bent/burnt valve). It's pretty basic as tests go, but should give you a general overall statement of health of the engine. If you can, run a leakdown test as it would pinpoint the source of compression leakage if it's rings, intake or exhaust valves.
__________________
Rob Z.
1975 K5 350/465/205/D44/12b 4" lift on 35's- RIP
1991 K5 8.1L/NV4500/241/D44/14b FWC Camper

Last edited by Zoomad75; 10-16-2007 at 12:17 AM.
Zoomad75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 02:11 AM   #7
rfmaster
Registered User
 
rfmaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: OC CA
Posts: 1,374
Re: oil is getting gone please help

PCV will suck up oil if the opposing valve cover is not ventilated. A typical culprit is due to after market valve covers not having 1.22" holes for vents.

//RF
__________________
"The Beast"

1975 Chevrolet C20 longbed
350/700R4! with 3inch body lift
Dual Flowmasters Super 40's!
TBI retrofit completed (2007-07-29)
New 383CID (+030) 08-304-8 9.5:1CR x36,005 (2012-12-17)
rfmaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 06:12 AM   #8
87rado
Registered User
 
87rado's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Elsanor, Alabama
Posts: 35
Re: oil is getting gone please help

Wow. That is one I haven't heard of. The PCV hoovering oil?
I don't burn or loose much oil. I do have some poor valve seals though. When I first crank it up, I get a puff of white smoke. It's gone in about 5 seconds. Doesn't happen often on warm starts.
I was thinking your rear main seal was contributing, but if it was and the exhaust was burning it off, you would surely notice that.
I think it is good advice to check the cylinders.

I get a few oily spots on my tailgate sometimes. As I mentioned, it looses really no oil. Minor seeping and valve seals. I check the tranny and rear as well. Minor seep on the tailshaft, but nothing obvious.

I was sitting on a patch of dirt one day and cranked it up. I have straight exhausts and both turn down right in front of the rear end. I noticed the big cloud of dust from the exhaust. My brain started working. When I get the spots on the tailgate, it is when I am driving just after rain has started. My exhaust kicks up the oily water off the road and plants it in a swirl right on the tailgate. Mystery oil on the tailgate solved.
__________________
Lee
87rado is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 10:32 PM   #9
bigblock79
67 Chevy Stepside
 
bigblock79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Jonesville NC
Posts: 836
Re: oil is getting gone please help

new pvc and 3 plug was oiley and rest white but lot of them had bulid up i am stump i am the 3 owner of this truck with this promble
__________________
1967 Chevy stepside
1976 BIG DOOLEY 454 turbo 400 4:11
bigblock79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 11:22 PM   #10
Zoomad75
K5Camper
 
Zoomad75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pueblo, CO
Posts: 1,513
Re: oil is getting gone please help

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigblock79 View Post
new pvc and 3 plug was oiley and rest white but lot of them had bulid up i am stump i am the 3 owner of this truck with this promble

What color was the build up on the plugs? Black and oily or white and crusty? If you have 3 oily plugs at least, you still are consuming oil. It's either your PCV or something more internal to the engine. Check the PCV (or just get a new one as they are dirt cheap anyway. Change the plugs out, drive it and recheck oil level after you get some miles on it. If the oil consumption is still happening, do a compression test.

I speak from experience. I had a 307 in my Nova that burned 1-2 quarts between tanks of gas. The poor old 307 was just flat worn out. It would have needed a full rebuild to tame it's tendancy to burn oil in addition to gasoline. I stuffed a 350 in it to fix that...
__________________
Rob Z.
1975 K5 350/465/205/D44/12b 4" lift on 35's- RIP
1991 K5 8.1L/NV4500/241/D44/14b FWC Camper
Zoomad75 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2007, 05:53 AM   #11
knightlife
Dark Heart Motorsports
 
knightlife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: 29404 DKFX
Posts: 683
Re: oil is getting gone please help

soak your pcv valve in some rubbing alcohol, or b-12 chem tool... tap it out with a micro fiber towel, reinstall...if it still doesnt work, put in a new pcv valve, and find out how much oil is being burnt via the spark plugs.
__________________
How Deep Can YOU Bleed..?
1985 Chevy Blazer K5- 6.2 N/A, 400 turbo trans CUCV, 12v converted... a new chapter

2005 GMC Sierra Crew Cab 6.0 powwwaa!!! custom jumpseat install w/ captain seats, Hypertech tuner, MSD Blaster Coils, CB and twin antenna's, all electric interior, touch screen in dash. custom center console, with jump seat replacing original console. 1500 HD!
knightlife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2007, 12:26 PM   #12
Captkaos
www.73-87chevytrucks.com
 
Captkaos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 6,935
Re: oil is getting gone please help

How old is this motor? When was it installed? A few years back there was a batch of crate motors that had issues with rings not seating that did this. Mechanics know about it, Service writers do also, and LIE about it.
I had one just like that. It used 2 quarts in 30 miles! They replaced it under warranty after they tried to blame it on everything they could make up.

There is no way you are pulling 2 quarts through the PCV under normal driving conditions. What does the bottom of the intake look like? What about the carb, it is oily? What about the PCV hose? You can easily check a PCV to see if it works by rattling it. It is just a one way valve.

If you want to verify that oil is or is not coming through the PCV you can put a air compressor oil/water separator inline and see what is coming through the line.
__________________
Chris Lucas
1973 Chevy C-10
1978 GMC Jimmy (2WD) - SOLD
1987 R10 twin turbo LS
1991 R3500 SRW CrewCab
1985 K5 diesel swapped project
1989 K5 2WD conversion w/ Vette susp Project
Captkaos Customs
73-87chevytrucks.com
Captkaos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2007, 04:48 PM   #13
bigblock79
67 Chevy Stepside
 
bigblock79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Jonesville NC
Posts: 836
Re: oil is getting gone please help

from the p[o.s it was put in around 04
__________________
1967 Chevy stepside
1976 BIG DOOLEY 454 turbo 400 4:11
bigblock79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com