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Starter Problems
All,
I have been through three NAPA starters on my truck in the last year. I dont drive the truck all that much. It is a 350/350 combo. The truck only puts out 300 horses. I have checked the teeth on the flywheel and none are messed up. I had a small shim in it. It was paper thin and unreadable as far as thickness is concerned. I didnt put it back on with the newest rebuilt napa starter. What happens is the aluminum case at the front of the starter either cracks or in the last case broke. I pulled the inspection cover off this time and reinstalled the new starter and noticed their isn't a whole lot of clearance but the starter is not touching the flywheel. Previous brands of starters never had this problem. Any help would be appreciated. Kerry
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Re: Starter Problems
do you have heat issues from headers/exhaust pipes? i believe this can cause a starter to screw up. i dont know about cracking, but it may cause weakness. anyone else?
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Re: Starter Problems
I had the very same issue with an Advance auto parts starter. First one dont know where it came from, the 2nd one was from Advance. It lasted about 6 mos. Had to continually adjust (shim) it. I finally took it apart and saw a hair line crack in the nose that I guess was just getting larger. They replaced and we checked this one out with a magnifying glass befor leaving the store. Been in for about 4 mos. now and have not had to adjust and seems to be working fine. Good luck, I think its just crappy rebuilt parts thats causing the probs. They paint that nose with some kind of epoxy paint from what I'm told so it hides blemishes. Just my opinion, Good luck, Mike.........
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Re: Starter Problems
I actually have a help product that is a heat shield that covers the solenoid. It is the front of the nose that goes into make contact with the flywheel that keeps cracking and or breaking off. Kerry
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Re: Starter Problems
If an engine is high compressioned or timed a bit too high it sometimes kicks back on the starter and cracks the aluminum starter nose. Use to have that a good bit with big blocks. Fix was to find a GM nose. These cheap aftermarket parts aren't as stout as the factory ones. Give a call to your local starter rebuild shop and ask them which are better.
PS Did you ever finish that truck? Last I saw was the pic in your avatar.
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Re: Starter Problems
Do you have the support bracket installed at the front of the starter? Most people throw it away not really knowing it's there to support the weight of the starter and to keep it from twisting from the torque of cranking the engine.
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Re: Starter Problems
I didnt know there was a support bracket. Anyone got pictures of it? As far as finishing the truck, I am lazy and have never uploaded any pics to update the avatar. To be honest, one of my friends who used to be on this board did it for me. I have alot of pics on photobucket but haven't put them on here. And for you non ford lovers, my mustang mach 1 is about done. Body work completes this week and paint in the next two weeks.
Kerry
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Re: Starter Problems
Borrowed this pic from LMC Catalog. Right side of page, second pic down, item #1.
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Re: Starter Problems
well, i didnt know that there was a brace for the starter!! you guys just keep suprising me every day!
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Re: Starter Problems
you might also replace the bolts.....without the brace, they can get bent. Im not sure if it was mentioned, so you can check the starter clearance, by sliding a 1/8" rod tween the armature shaft, & the OD of the flywheel ring gear. Add shims under both bolts to loosen the clearance, & under the outside corner only to tighten it up. best of luck,
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Re: Starter Problems
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Re: Starter Problems
I bit the bullet and bought a CVR mini gear reduction starter. Never had a problem since. It cranks my 476 almost above idle speed! They have more adjustability built in with the motor bolted to the machined adapter block too. Here's a good price on one.
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Re: Starter Problems
How is the brace installed? I can't see by the picture. I am going to get one now. Kerry
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Re: Starter Problems
Also try to get a cast iron GM nose cone. That ended my starter alignment problems. No shims needed.
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Re: Starter Problems
I say go with a high torque mini starter and be done with it. I fought with starters for years, and then finally bit the bullet and got a mini starter.
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Re: Starter Problems
Are you using starter bolts or just bolts. Non starter bolts will let the starter turn just a little. I also second checking the shims..
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