Transfer Case is Out

[hdflstf]

Got the transfer case out today. PO told me the adapter was cracked and leaking trans fluid into the transfer case.
I think maybe the seals are bad since the adapter appears to be in good shape. I think I'll rebuild the trans while I'm in this far.

Made a little fixture with some angle iron and the welder to keep the TC under control on the floor jack.

[72armyswbtruck]

Thats pretty snazzy

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by 72armyswbtruck

Thats pretty snazzy

Not really, just functional. Welds are kind of ugly as it's been awhile since I've have the nee to run the mig welder. Did the job though.

[earl87gta]

thats a cool idea I aways lower them down through the trans cover with my engine hoist.

[jaros44sr]

Nice work. How is that flooring to roll a floor jack and a creeper around on? I was thinking of that stuff or painting my floor

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by jaros44sr

Nice work. How is that flooring to roll a floor jack and a creeper around on? I was thinking of that stuff or painting my floor

I used to epoxy paint my garage floors. Every time I moved I had to leave it behind.
The floor jack rolls ok on the floor and it's not so hard and cold like the concrete. The one drawback is that you'll need to put something under the floorjack to spread out the load when you raise a vehicle and the same goes for under the jackstands. i've rolled a complete Corvair driveline out before on that same jack with no problems.

[jaros44sr]

Originally Posted by hdflstf

I used to epoxy paint my garage floors. Every time I moved I had to leave it behind.
The floor jack rolls ok on the floor and it's not so hard and cold like the concrete. The one drawback is that you'll need to put something under the floorjack to spread out the load when you raise a vehicle and the same goes for under the jackstands. i've rolled a complete Corvair driveline out before on that same jack with no problems.

Thanks for the input, I wasn't sure if it would handle a load. Looks really nice!! At least this time you can take your floor with you My floor really takes a beating, chucks of rust and metal, plus the usual grease and other liquids. My truck is on rollers so I don't think they would work[ small workshop]

I also just dropped my TC last week, leaky seal. Spent 2 weeks derusting frame, cleaning up crossmember and other stuff. Almost ready to put it back in...mind if I post up a pic. of mine coming out?

BTW, you have one really nice truck, well 2, but I mean the old one. J.

BTWW, welcome to the boards from Philly, Pa.

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by jaros44sr

Thanks for the input, I wasn't sure if it would handle a load. Looks really nice!! At least this time you can take your floor with you My floor really takes a beating, chucks of rust and metal, plus the usual grease and other liquids. My truck is on rollers so I don't think they would work[ small workshop]

I also just dropped my TC last week, leaky seal. Spent 2 weeks derusting frame, cleaning up crossmember and other stuff. Almost ready to put it back in...mind if I post up a pic. of mine coming out?

BTW, you have one really nice truck, well 2, but I mean the old one. J.

BTWW, welcome to the boards from Philly, Pa.

Go ahead and post your pix - no prob. I'll be putting some updates as I go. For now I'm just trying to get all the mechanical stuff squared away. Need all the u-joints, change fluid in the axles, change brake fluid, new PS box, drop the trans and go through it, new mounts bushings etc. Depending on parts I hope to be running by about the end of the month. We'll wait and see how good a guess that is......

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by earl87gta

thats a cool idea I aways lower them down through the trans cover with my engine hoist.

Thanks. I had to do something since I wasn't going to try to bench press the TC.

[68C15]

first off I like your ingenuity with the T case tool for the floor jack. KUDOS!!

but the front diff fluid looks brown. kind of like when it gets water in it. I would do another diff. service in a week or so.

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by 68C15

first off I like your ingenuity with the T case tool for the floor jack. KUDOS!!

but the front diff fluid looks brown. kind of like when it gets water in it. I would do another diff. service in a week or so.

Already planning on that once I get it on the road again. Funny though, it didn't have an water related nasty buildup in there. Maybe just caught it in time. I'll just put the cover back on with some RTV and when I do the second fluid change, I'll use the gasket..

Now to find a gasket and seal kit for the TC a couple of u-joints, steering box, drain the rear diff, do some cleanup... lots of work for the next couple of weeks.

[68C15]

I'm thinking a good machine shop could weld up that groove and spin it flat again for about $30 or so. otherwise you can find a good parts store (not one of these big named chain stores where they hire McDonalds flunkies) to look in the back of the National seal book for a speedisleeve that will fit. they have listing by size.

[1-tonmudder]

Unless you have removed the sleeve support bearing that is the wrong style sleeve for that style adapter.Might be part of the problem.That is an early style sleeve and it appears to be a late style adapter.

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by 1-tonmudder

Unless you have removed the sleeve support bearing that is the wrong style sleeve for that style adapter.Might be part of the problem.That is an early style sleeve and it appears to be a late style adapter.

Ok. I'm not familiar with the differences between early and late parts for this. Any help with identification?

The O.D. of the sleeve is exactly 2 inches and the 'groove' is 1.9980. Two pix, first is sleeve and bearing. Second is hard to see but upon closer inspection, the transfer case seal is split right by my fingertip. I'm 99.99% certain that is the problem.

[1-tonmudder]

As pictured in your last post you have the early style adapter and sleeve.The late style(post 77ish) will not have the bearing and snap ring on the sleeve.The sleeve will be the same diameter on both ends and not kneck down like the one you pictured.

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by 1-tonmudder

As pictured in your last post you have the early style adapter and sleeve.The late style(post 77ish) will not have the bearing and snap ring on the sleeve.The sleeve will be the same diameter on both ends and not kneck down like the one you pictured.

I think I have the proper parts for the '72 based on the pictures of the replacement parts on the advance adapters website for the 71-79. Mine look to be the same configuration.

Adapter http://72.20.96.178/commerce/catalog...=1194923745792

Sleeve http://72.20.96.178/commerce/catalog...=1194924000709 with the exception that the pictured sleeve is not the correct spline for the TH350. SM465 type pictured.

[mrein3]

Originally Posted by hdflstf

Ok. I'm not familiar with the differences between early and late parts for this. Any help with identification?

The O.D. of the sleeve is exactly 2 inches and the 'groove' is 1.9980. Two pix, first is sleeve and bearing. Second is hard to see but upon closer inspection, the transfer case seal is split right by my fingertip. I'm 99.99% certain that is the problem.

As 1-tonmudder pointed out, you have the "early style" adapter. When I swapped from 3-speed manual to th350, I bought used stuff out of a 72 Blazer. The adapter had the bearing. However I discovered the adapter housing was cracked.

I spent a lot of money at the GM counter for a new housing and drive sleeve. A lot. They are the newer style and bolt right up to the tranny and t-case.

Since you found a split in the oil seal you may want to just replace it. The only flaw I can see in your logic is that the break in the seal you identified is at the top of the adapter. You would think that it wouldn't leak much if any up there. Now that you are an expert at removing the t-case (nice floor jack fixture fab) by just replacing that seal what have you got to lose other than time and a little tranny fluid?

[hdflstf]

I figure I'll just keep posting progress here..

Solved the worn out tire problem. First since they are 16.5" wheels, no one seems to make decent tires for them any more. Found a set of 16" wheels and tires for less than a set of tires for the 16.5's..

Also got the new variable ratio steering box, rag joint, power steering hoses installed. Front diff is sealed up and ready for gear oil. Broken windshield is out and a new one is ready to go in. One broken motor mount replaced with the other going in today. Transfer case teardown will start tomorrow I think.

[1-tonmudder]

You can use a Jeep XJ steering shaft to do away with the rag joint and tighten up the steering.They are very simillair to the high dollar Borgeson unit's.

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by 1-tonmudder

You can use a Jeep XJ steering shaft to do away with the rag joint and tighten up the steering.They are very simillair to the high dollar Borgeson unit's.

Not sure what an XJ is. Guess I need to do some searching once the rag joint starts getting soft in a few years.


On a positive note, got the transfer case torn apart today. Now to clean it all up and hope the parts kit arrives tomorrow. Any good sources for the output yoke retaining nuts? One of the came off about half stripped. Threads on the shaft aren't too bad, should be able to clean them up with a thread file.

[1-tonmudder]

Any good sources for the output yoke retaining nuts?

I'll have a few.Front or rear out-put??

[msgross]

Nice truck...where did you get the steering box at?

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by msgross

Nice truck...where did you get the steering box at?

Steering box is a new AGR variable ratio box 13/16 to one. It's about 3 3/4 turns lock to lock. I've yet to drive it so I can't go beyond the install which is simple except for the one arm bench press of the box while trying to get the bolts in it. Fits just like the stock box but doesn't have all that slop..

[msgross]

was it about $350? thanks..

[hdflstf]

Originally Posted by msgross

was it about $350? thanks..

Close, just a little more at Summit.