Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

70clone · 11-29-2007, 06:22 PM

i was wanting to know if this is an easy conversion since the 67-72 swb 4x4 are hard to come by

**71blksuper4x4** · 11-29-2007, 06:26 PM

Try to find this topic using the search tool. Also, try private messaging Mudder on this topic. He has done it. It can be done with a little work. Trevor

krue · 11-29-2007, 06:42 PM

Mudder is the one to talk to, it's definitely doable, but due to differences in the frame you'll need to do a body lift.

70clone · 11-30-2007, 11:40 AM

thanx guys i emailed mudder

Mudder · 12-01-2007, 12:27 PM

did you get the info i sent?

toomanytoyz · 12-01-2007, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudder

did you get the info i sent?

Would it be Possible for me to Get the Same info on Doing a Conversion??

Thanks, Rick

72chevy327 · 12-10-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudder

did you get the info i sent?

wow i was interested in the same swap, do you mind sending it to me also? Thanks Quinn.

Mudder · 12-02-2007, 03:59 AM

pm me your email addy.

Mudder · 12-10-2007, 03:22 PM

pm me your email addy if you dont want others to see it here.

**special-K** · 12-11-2007, 06:27 AM

I looked at a truck with this swap and it looks like the biggest thing is up front.The`73-up core support mounts forward of the pre-73.This one was done less than correct in my book.The cab mounts were all used and the frame mounts were just off-center side to side,but still used.

Mudder · 12-11-2007, 07:45 AM

It can all be done pretty easily. Would be awesome if the 67-72 cabs had a higher opening in the rear of the cab.

milehightoyz · 12-11-2007, 10:36 PM

id like to see this info as well if you dont mind milehightoyz@hotmail.com

Mudder · 12-12-2007, 12:24 AM

sent

72chevy327 · 12-12-2007, 11:24 AM

got em thanks Mudder. so to me it looks like a body lift with some steering mods and something done to the core supports. can you please do a more in depth list of all the mods necessary to complete the swap, if you don't mind, i would appreciate it and probably other members too. Thanks again Mudder.

toomanytoyz · 12-12-2007, 11:40 AM

I have used the Shaft from a 90's Jeep Cherokee for a Similar Swap, Has 2 ujoint's in it & was a Direct Bolt in............

Rick

Mudder · 12-12-2007, 12:22 PM

Did you get the little deal I wrote about what I did? The only other thing not there would maybe be shortening the rear brake lines a little and I'm not even sure anymore that I had to do that. I would have to look the next time she lets me see her.

You could call me if you have specific questions or ask here and hope I can answer.

toomanytoyz · 12-14-2007, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mudder

Did you get the little deal I wrote about what I did? The only other thing not there would maybe be shortening the rear brake lines a little and I'm not even sure anymore that I had to do that. I would have to look the next time she lets me see her.

You could call me if you have specific questions or ask here and hope I can answer.

Yes I Did,Thanks Mudder..........

Rick

**special-K** · 12-14-2007, 02:07 AM

Why does the steering shaft need offset?The frames are the same width and the axles bolt up the same.The same steering box was used through`75,too.I`m just confused.

toomanytoyz · 12-14-2007, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

Why does the steering shaft need offset?The frames are the same width and the axles bolt up the same.The same steering box was used through`75,too.I`m just confused.

Sorry about The Confusion, I Just Posted that as a Alternate Way to Correct the Geometry when you Put a Body Lift on..........

That Pic Posted was of a 89 Body Sitting on a 85 Frame, That is why the Offset Difference look's so Much in that Pic.............

Hope that Help's, Rick

toomanytoyz · 12-14-2007, 02:46 AM

This Pic was From Mudder on Using a Ujoint Setup in His Conversion of his Truck, I Guess the Body Lift Caused the Steering to Have a Bind in it.......

Rick

Mudder · 12-14-2007, 07:58 AM

If you have a really good rag joint I think you could get by without the ujoint but there are chances it could bind up. Whenever a body lift is used the geometry of the shaft is changed.

see ten · 12-14-2007, 12:33 PM

This isn't a 67-72 but the concept is near identical. The cab mounts were moved to the outside of the frame and used without a body lift. Of course the problem arises with the front of the frame dropping down. Body lift bushings/mounts were used under the core support to keep it up level with the rest of the cab.

This is another one I used to own that was done pretty close to the same way.

11-29-2007, 06:22 PM	#1
70clone Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: JACKSONVILLE FL Posts: 200	Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame i was wanting to know if this is an easy conversion since the 67-72 swb 4x4 are hard to come by

11-29-2007, 06:26 PM	#2
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,156	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame Try to find this topic using the search tool. Also, try private messaging Mudder on this topic. He has done it. It can be done with a little work. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

11-29-2007, 06:42 PM	#3
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame Mudder is the one to talk to, it's definitely doable, but due to differences in the frame you'll need to do a body lift. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

11-30-2007, 11:40 AM	#4
70clone Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: JACKSONVILLE FL Posts: 200	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame thanx guys i emailed mudder

12-01-2007, 12:27 PM	#5
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame did you get the info i sent?

12-02-2007, 03:59 AM	#8
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame pm me your email addy.

12-10-2007, 03:22 PM	#9
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame pm me your email addy if you dont want others to see it here.

12-11-2007, 06:27 AM	#10
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame I looked at a truck with this swap and it looks like the biggest thing is up front.The`73-up core support mounts forward of the pre-73.This one was done less than correct in my book.The cab mounts were all used and the frame mounts were just off-center side to side,but still used. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

12-11-2007, 07:45 AM	#11
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame It can all be done pretty easily. Would be awesome if the 67-72 cabs had a higher opening in the rear of the cab.

12-11-2007, 10:36 PM	#12
milehightoyz AttentionDeficitDisorder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: COLORADO Posts: 600	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame id like to see this info as well if you dont mind milehightoyz@hotmail.com

12-12-2007, 12:24 AM	#13
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame sent

12-12-2007, 11:24 AM	#14
72chevy327 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: edmonton ab ca Posts: 88	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame got em thanks Mudder. so to me it looks like a body lift with some steering mods and something done to the core supports. can you please do a more in depth list of all the mods necessary to complete the swap, if you don't mind, i would appreciate it and probably other members too. Thanks again Mudder. Last edited by 72chevy327; 12-12-2007 at 11:25 AM.

12-12-2007, 11:40 AM	#15
toomanytoyz Luv the Crewcabs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Andrews, In. 46702 Posts: 4,097	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame I have used the Shaft from a 90's Jeep Cherokee for a Similar Swap, Has 2 ujoint's in it & was a Direct Bolt in............ Rick Attached Images __________________ 55 Nomad 52 Willys Truck 67 Stepper 67 Fleet 68 Wrecker 68 Suburban 76 Crewcab 79 Gmc Dumptruck 84 Blazer 86 Crewcab Stepside 87 Iroc 89 GMC Plow Truck 91 Camaro Vert 96 Z71 Stepsde

12-12-2007, 12:22 PM	#16
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame Did you get the little deal I wrote about what I did? The only other thing not there would maybe be shortening the rear brake lines a little and I'm not even sure anymore that I had to do that. I would have to look the next time she lets me see her. You could call me if you have specific questions or ask here and hope I can answer.

12-14-2007, 02:07 AM	#18
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame Why does the steering shaft need offset?The frames are the same width and the axles bolt up the same.The same steering box was used through`75,too.I`m just confused. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~



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12-14-2007, 02:46 AM	#20
toomanytoyz Luv the Crewcabs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Andrews, In. 46702 Posts: 4,097	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame This Pic was From Mudder on Using a Ujoint Setup in His Conversion of his Truck, I Guess the Body Lift Caused the Steering to Have a Bind in it....... Rick Attached Images __________________ 55 Nomad 52 Willys Truck 67 Stepper 67 Fleet 68 Wrecker 68 Suburban 76 Crewcab 79 Gmc Dumptruck 84 Blazer 86 Crewcab Stepside 87 Iroc 89 GMC Plow Truck 91 Camaro Vert 96 Z71 Stepsde

12-14-2007, 07:58 AM	#21
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame If you have a really good rag joint I think you could get by without the ujoint but there are chances it could bind up. Whenever a body lift is used the geometry of the shaft is changed.

12-14-2007, 12:33 PM	#22
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: Will a 67-72 body fit on a 73-87 4x4 frame This isn't a 67-72 but the concept is near identical. The cab mounts were moved to the outside of the frame and used without a body lift. Of course the problem arises with the front of the frame dropping down. Body lift bushings/mounts were used under the core support to keep it up level with the rest of the cab. This is another one I used to own that was done pretty close to the same way.

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