Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

71swb4x4 · 12-20-2007, 05:25 PM

I bought these plugs at Napa a month ago when I bought a bunch of other stuff I needed. I didn't look at the plugs until tonight. I have Champion RV19YC's. What are they? All I have ever used as far as I can remember are R44TS's. Anyone know the difference? I probably will just take these back tomorrow and get the R44TS plugs. These are going on a 350 with HEI.

EyeH8the24 · 12-20-2007, 05:26 PM

take them back and get any brand but champion...jmo

C10-Driver · 12-20-2007, 05:32 PM

I have heard the same thing about Champion... NGK's are usually pretty good.

EyeH8the24 · 12-20-2007, 05:35 PM

champions cost me two motors...both times the plus exploded and dropped down onto the pistons

MXmaniac · 12-20-2007, 05:42 PM

Definately avoid the Champions. I've heard horror stories.

71swb4x4 · 12-20-2007, 05:44 PM

Well that was easy. When I pulled them out of the bag tonight I did a double take. I guess I wasn't paying attention when I walked out of the store that day.

dingo_dan_22 · 12-20-2007, 05:56 PM

I find it ridiculous you blame a spark plug brand like champion for all these problems. I run the 4025 truck plugs in my engine.

centsless · 12-20-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingo_dan_22

I find it ridiculous you blame a spark plug brand like champion for all these problems. I run the 4025 truck plugs in my engine.

I share my opinion after 20+ years of mechanical experience. They are OE in Jeep. We replaced the Champions in them at 15,000 miles. We went to Autolite in the 4.0 Cherokees and get 30,000+ miles out of them. We put them in a 2002 Chevy pickup with the 6.0 and immediately got a check engine light with p0300 misfire code. Took them out and inspected them, they looked fine. Replaced them with AC/Delco, and everything was fine. I know that some people swear by them, and that is fine. We have had no luck with them here. Just saying that I base my opinion on fact...

centsless · 12-20-2007, 05:51 PM

If it does not have a mower deck under it, dont use champions. Even if it does have a mower deck, only use them as a last resort. You will get double the mileage and performance from a Delco plug.

71swb4x4 · 12-20-2007, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by centsless

If it does not have a mower deck under it, dont use champions. Even if it does have a mower deck, only use them as a last resort. You will get double the mileage and performance from a Delco plug.

Actually, there is a mower deck under it. I have a pretty small garage, no where else to store it when the snowblower is on the lawn tractor.

EyeH8the24 · 12-20-2007, 06:04 PM

champions or chumpions are the only plug i ever had to not fire right out of the box.the two dirt car engines always ran great but twice after tune ups with champions,usually run ngk,but parts store only had champions for my heads at the time,the plugs exploded and pieces went into the pistons and valves,maybe it wasnt the plugs,but thats the only change.plus like i said i never had a ngk not fire out of the box worked as a mechanic from 87 till around 97 and always done my own work ......once bitten twice shy,....jmo...everyone has one..

chev74 · 12-20-2007, 06:08 PM

i run the accel header plugs. they're shorter so that its not such a pain to put them in or put boots on them

**88JRFAN** · 12-20-2007, 06:14 PM

Autolites Are All I Run Now. That's All A Mechanic Buddy Runs. Run Them In The Race Cars Also.

sodak69c10 · 12-20-2007, 08:15 PM

we run NGK's in the Mazdas at the dealership(plus they make the factory plugs for the rotary RX-8) i use AC DELCO in everything else from my 81 GP to my 69, my bikes take NGK, but i haven't had very good luck with autolite in anything(even at the dealership) or champions

how much different do the plugs look? maybe updated number but prolly just a mix up

Old Chevy Mech · 12-21-2007, 07:00 AM

I've been running Bosch, no issues, excellent mileage & reliability in the Blazer. I ran Accell forever in it until the price doubled.

Sadly Champions have never given me good reliable service, we pulled them out of everything, bob cats, tractors, dozers, pony engines & even in lawnmowers! Once that was complete, our issues pratically vanished.

Frank

**michael bustamante** · 12-21-2007, 09:32 AM

always a/c delco resistor plugs. ngk`s in the toyota

yenko427 · 12-21-2007, 12:28 PM

I work for Napa Auto Parts for ten years and this is really gonna blow you away. Guess who makes AC DELCO its not GM or DELPHI. Champion makes AC Delco for GM they and Champion is made by Federal Mogul. Here is a web site that used by most shops that buy from Napa. It dont give you store prices but it has alot of good stuff. From torque spec to fireing order check it out http://www.napaprolink.com. Log in as NAPAPROLINK password PROLINK. Sorry to break some of your hearts.

ChevLoRay · 12-21-2007, 01:14 PM

Didja know that the letters AC stand for Albert Champion? When General Motors corporate bought the AC name, Mr. Champion set out to make a plug with his own name on it.

There have been many, many brands of spark plugs over the years.

I remember when the Fred's stores (a discount chain) sold reconditioned spark plugs. I bought a set of 8 to put in a '65 Tempest 326 that had a dead miss, and it fixed it. I had only paid $75 for the car (in '75) and had little to lose. It ran very well and did so for at least two years afterwards. The plugs were mixed brands, but all correct for the application...Motorcraft and Autolite were most common in the set.

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 12-21-2007, 01:25 PM

Uhhh, guys I work at a NAPA and I hate to burst the AC DELCO lovers bubble but Champion actually makes the AC DELCO plugs, just like Standard Motor Products makes the Dist caps and rotors. Delco makes absoultely SQUAT anymore, it is just a marketing name anymore.

kenm78 · 12-21-2007, 04:37 PM

What about split fires waste of money or good plugs?

EyeH8the24 · 12-21-2007, 04:51 PM

they may all come from the same factory,same machines,but bet the quality components used are different by plug brands,........some one makes all the walmart ,kroger,and such brands as this ,and there is a difference ,all be it a small difference most of the time.

Old Chevy Mech · 12-22-2007, 09:36 AM

I have used split fire plugs in my Hawg...never had an issue and the bike did have noticable improvement in performance & starting. Never used them in anything else.

Frank

ChevLoRay · 12-22-2007, 01:28 PM

Ain't it great to have so many choices of spark plugs? Platinum, gold, irridium, split-fire, 4-ways....there's a whole lot to choose from. I use the iridium in my Tundra, but plain ole' AC's in my '69. Don't know what the '96 has in it, because my son did them in CA. The Lexus has irridium plugs in it.

sodak69c10 · 12-22-2007, 08:02 PM

something i never quite under stood was split fires i mean yeah you will have more surface area for the spark to jump from but the spark is still going to jump its shortest distance, right? never paid much attention to them i just stick to what i have, as long as it sparks when it needs to i'm happy

Huck · 12-23-2007, 03:53 AM

For 45 years of wrenching, I have never had good luck with Champions. Don't care who makes what but ---that name on that plug has consistantly been a PITA so the last one I had, I broke out the center and use the casing with a hose attached to fill tires--you just pull a plug, screw in the champion plug with the hose attached, and fill you tires when low on the road. Best use for Champion plugs!!

12-20-2007, 05:25 PM	#1
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? I bought these plugs at Napa a month ago when I bought a bunch of other stuff I needed. I didn't look at the plugs until tonight. I have Champion RV19YC's. What are they? All I have ever used as far as I can remember are R44TS's. Anyone know the difference? I probably will just take these back tomorrow and get the R44TS plugs. These are going on a 350 with HEI. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

12-20-2007, 05:26 PM	#2
EyeH8the24 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: beulah,alabama Posts: 1,075	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? take them back and get any brand but champion...jmo

12-20-2007, 05:32 PM	#3
C10-Driver Chevy Truck Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 1,176	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? I have heard the same thing about Champion... NGK's are usually pretty good. __________________ . 1970 Chev C/10 SWB, 355 SBC, 700R4, 3.73 Posi, Air Ride (Click to view Build Thread) (SOLD) 1978 Chevy C/10 SWB 1970 Pontiac Lemans .

12-20-2007, 05:35 PM	#4
EyeH8the24 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: beulah,alabama Posts: 1,075	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? champions cost me two motors...both times the plus exploded and dropped down onto the pistons

12-20-2007, 05:42 PM	#5
MXmaniac Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 356	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? Definately avoid the Champions. I've heard horror stories. __________________ Andrew '69 C-20(292, 4-speed) Retired Daily Driver '64 C-10(250, 3-speed) Fixerupper '97 F*rd Mustang GT(4.6L, 5-speed) Daily Driver If I only wanted two pedals I'd have bought a bicycle.

12-20-2007, 05:44 PM	#6
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? Well that was easy. When I pulled them out of the bag tonight I did a double take. I guess I wasn't paying attention when I walked out of the store that day. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

12-20-2007, 05:56 PM	#7
dingo_dan_22 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 119	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? I find it ridiculous you blame a spark plug brand like champion for all these problems. I run the 4025 truck plugs in my engine. __________________ 71' Chevrolet -> 350c.i. w/ 600 Edelbrock Carb, Headers, P/S, 3/5 Drop

12-20-2007, 05:51 PM	#9
centsless sufficiently talented fool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Forest Hill, MD Posts: 2,231	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? If it does not have a mower deck under it, dont use champions. Even if it does have a mower deck, only use them as a last resort. You will get double the mileage and performance from a Delco plug. __________________ "it's impossible to be surrounded by idiots when you are part of the circle" 2003 Suburban 2002 Pontiac Montana 1981 Corvette 1966 Impala Convertible Click here to support the board

12-20-2007, 06:04 PM	#11
EyeH8the24 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: beulah,alabama Posts: 1,075	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? champions or chumpions are the only plug i ever had to not fire right out of the box.the two dirt car engines always ran great but twice after tune ups with champions,usually run ngk,but parts store only had champions for my heads at the time,the plugs exploded and pieces went into the pistons and valves,maybe it wasnt the plugs,but thats the only change.plus like i said i never had a ngk not fire out of the box worked as a mechanic from 87 till around 97 and always done my own work ......once bitten twice shy,....jmo...everyone has one..

12-20-2007, 06:08 PM	#12
chev74 Addicted to Chevy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tyler, Tx Posts: 857	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? i run the accel header plugs. they're shorter so that its not such a pain to put them in or put boots on them

12-20-2007, 06:14 PM	#13
88JRFAN LET'S GO RACIN' Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SALINA,KS Posts: 1,212	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? Autolites Are All I Run Now. That's All A Mechanic Buddy Runs. Run Them In The Race Cars Also.

12-20-2007, 08:15 PM	#14
sodak69c10 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota Posts: 285	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? we run NGK's in the Mazdas at the dealership(plus they make the factory plugs for the rotary RX-8) i use AC DELCO in everything else from my 81 GP to my 69, my bikes take NGK, but i haven't had very good luck with autolite in anything(even at the dealership) or champions how much different do the plugs look? maybe updated number but prolly just a mix up __________________ ,Clint LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES 69 C-10 short stepside 406 sbc, 02 YAMAHA WR250F, 07 SUZUKI SV650S, 81 Grand Prix 355 sbc, 81 XT 500 YAMAHA

12-21-2007, 07:00 AM	#15
Old Chevy Mech Keepin it runnin! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Deep River, CT Posts: 1,036	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? I've been running Bosch, no issues, excellent mileage & reliability in the Blazer. I ran Accell forever in it until the price doubled. Sadly Champions have never given me good reliable service, we pulled them out of everything, bob cats, tractors, dozers, pony engines & even in lawnmowers! Once that was complete, our issues pratically vanished. Frank __________________ 1970 K-5 4X4 Blazer 1970 K-20 4X4 Long Bed "Liberty Means Responsibility, that is why most men dread it" Last edited by Old Chevy Mech; 12-21-2007 at 07:01 AM.

12-21-2007, 09:32 AM	#16
michael bustamante Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,862	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? always a/c delco resistor plugs. ngk`s in the toyota __________________ 1967custom

12-21-2007, 12:28 PM	#17
yenko427 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sweeny,Texas Posts: 96	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? I work for Napa Auto Parts for ten years and this is really gonna blow you away. Guess who makes AC DELCO its not GM or DELPHI. Champion makes AC Delco for GM they and Champion is made by Federal Mogul. Here is a web site that used by most shops that buy from Napa. It dont give you store prices but it has alot of good stuff. From torque spec to fireing order check it out http://www.napaprolink.com. Log in as NAPAPROLINK password PROLINK. Sorry to break some of your hearts.



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12-21-2007, 01:14 PM	#18
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? Didja know that the letters AC stand for Albert Champion? When General Motors corporate bought the AC name, Mr. Champion set out to make a plug with his own name on it. There have been many, many brands of spark plugs over the years. I remember when the Fred's stores (a discount chain) sold reconditioned spark plugs. I bought a set of 8 to put in a '65 Tempest 326 that had a dead miss, and it fixed it. I had only paid $75 for the car (in '75) and had little to lose. It ran very well and did so for at least two years afterwards. The plugs were mixed brands, but all correct for the application...Motorcraft and Autolite were most common in the set. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

12-21-2007, 01:25 PM	#19
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? Uhhh, guys I work at a NAPA and I hate to burst the AC DELCO lovers bubble but Champion actually makes the AC DELCO plugs, just like Standard Motor Products makes the Dist caps and rotors. Delco makes absoultely SQUAT anymore, it is just a marketing name anymore. __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

12-21-2007, 04:37 PM	#20
kenm78 Broken Down Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Choctaw, Oklahoma Posts: 1,267	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? What about split fires waste of money or good plugs? __________________ kenm78 1982 Chevy 4X4 Project truck “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people wonder about your ignorance, than open your mouth and reveal all doubt”

12-21-2007, 04:51 PM	#21
EyeH8the24 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: beulah,alabama Posts: 1,075	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? they may all come from the same factory,same machines,but bet the quality components used are different by plug brands,........some one makes all the walmart ,kroger,and such brands as this ,and there is a difference ,all be it a small difference most of the time.

12-22-2007, 09:36 AM	#22
Old Chevy Mech Keepin it runnin! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Deep River, CT Posts: 1,036	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? I have used split fire plugs in my Hawg...never had an issue and the bike did have noticable improvement in performance & starting. Never used them in anything else. Frank __________________ 1970 K-5 4X4 Blazer 1970 K-20 4X4 Long Bed "Liberty Means Responsibility, that is why most men dread it"

12-22-2007, 01:28 PM	#23
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? Ain't it great to have so many choices of spark plugs? Platinum, gold, irridium, split-fire, 4-ways....there's a whole lot to choose from. I use the iridium in my Tundra, but plain ole' AC's in my '69. Don't know what the '96 has in it, because my son did them in CA. The Lexus has irridium plugs in it. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

12-22-2007, 08:02 PM	#24
sodak69c10 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota Posts: 285	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? something i never quite under stood was split fires i mean yeah you will have more surface area for the spark to jump from but the spark is still going to jump its shortest distance, right? never paid much attention to them i just stick to what i have, as long as it sparks when it needs to i'm happy __________________ ,Clint LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES 69 C-10 short stepside 406 sbc, 02 YAMAHA WR250F, 07 SUZUKI SV650S, 81 Grand Prix 355 sbc, 81 XT 500 YAMAHA

12-23-2007, 03:53 AM	#25
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,261	Re: Sprak Plugs - Champion RV19YC??? For 45 years of wrenching, I have never had good luck with Champions. Don't care who makes what but ---that name on that plug has consistantly been a PITA so the last one I had, I broke out the center and use the casing with a hose attached to fill tires--you just pull a plug, screw in the champion plug with the hose attached, and fill you tires when low on the road. Best use for Champion plugs!!

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