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hotrodhomi · 01-27-2008, 09:49 AM

I’m in the process of plumbing my air bags on my ’72 blazer and I noticed that when its layed out the rear end is not centered. It’s much closer on the driver’s side. Will a shorter panhard bar correct this? If so, how do I know which one to buy?

68GMCCustom · 01-27-2008, 11:06 AM

you need an adjustable one. available thru most vendors.

jlaird · 01-27-2008, 11:48 AM

Correct me if i'm wrong, but you want a longer bar, not a shorter one. The longer it is, the less movement you will get. Also, don't worry if your rearend is not centered when you're laid out. It shouldn't be. It should be setup so your all centered at ride height. Then as you move up or down from your ride height, you will get movement from center.

hotrodhomi · 01-27-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jlaird

Also, don't worry if your rearend is not centered when you're laid out. It shouldn't be. It should be setup so your all centered at ride height.

It's a little off at ride height, but it makes my tire kiss the inside of my fender when aired out.

hotrodhomi · 01-27-2008, 11:51 AM

I looked up bars at Summit and a saw that they had about a dozen choices from $85 to $200. Any recommendations?

jlaird · 01-27-2008, 12:16 PM

are you looking for a weld on or bolt on application?

jlaird · 01-27-2008, 12:20 PM

for bolt on, I would recommend to go to earlyclassic.com and check out the super track bar.

LONGHAIR · 01-28-2008, 02:42 AM

What you really need is a "Watts link". A panhard bar will always be off-center at some point in the suspension travel of a 'bagged vehicle. You can get an adjustable bar, but that only lets you decide "where" it is right. The more travel you have in your suspension, the greater the effect.

A sliding, wish-bone type 3rd link will work too. It depends upon your fab skills and the available space under your truck, but you could do either.

**ChiefRocka** · 01-28-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LONGHAIR

What you really need is a "Watts link". A panhard bar will always be off-center at some point in the suspension travel of a 'bagged vehicle. You can get an adjustable bar, but that only lets you decide "where" it is right. The more travel you have in your suspension, the greater the effect.

A sliding, wish-bone type 3rd link will work too. It depends upon your fab skills and the available space under your truck, but you could do either.

I agree...the watts IS the way to go....

Here is what a basic one looks like....
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72BlckButy · 01-28-2008, 03:10 AM

ECE... all the way!

hotrodhomi · 01-28-2008, 06:43 AM

I'm not sure a watts link would work with my gas tank in the middle.

**lolife99** · 01-28-2008, 07:21 AM

I'm surprised it's closer on the driver's side when "air'd out". I would think it would shift to the passenger side. Try the Super Track Bar from ECE. It's longer than the stock bar (for less movement),... and is a bolt on. But you will still get movement. And the reaseon it's longer,... is because it attaches to the passenger side trailing arm.

Slmd92DIME · 01-28-2008, 01:24 PM

I am seriously rethinkin the panhard in mine. I am leaning towards the watts also.

hotrodhomi · 01-28-2008, 01:42 PM

Does anyone sell a kit for these or would I need to fab everything myself?

GMBowtie79 · 01-28-2008, 05:50 PM

Check out KPComponants.com they might have one for your application.

LONGHAIR · 01-29-2008, 12:04 AM

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I'm not sure a watts link would work with my gas tank in the middle.

If it will not fit, you can go with the sliding wishbone, in the front of the axle.

**ChiefRocka** · 01-29-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrodhomi

Does anyone sell a kit for these or would I need to fab everything myself?

I had to fab-up this one because my customer had me install this massive 14-bolt into his truck....

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Originally Posted by GMBowtie79

Check out KPComponants.com they might have one for your application.

Kp does make a 12-bolt kit...it's like $400..nice piece

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Originally Posted by LONGHAIR

If it will not fit, you can go with the sliding wishbone, in the front of the axle.

This 67 has an aluminum rear tank...and it fits PERFECT.....

Click on the build link to see more pics
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Slmd92DIME · 01-29-2008, 06:35 AM

www.speedwaymotors has one for like 70 bucks. It goes off the top of the axle. You could make your own diff. bracket though.

GMBowtie79 · 01-29-2008, 09:28 AM

That one from speedway might be goot on a 9" I dont know about mounting that top bracket on GM diff where the center section is cast. I'd take some mesurements and call KP to see if it would fit, Clint seems to know his s#!t.

01-27-2008, 09:49 AM	#1
hotrodhomi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,737	Panhard question I’m in the process of plumbing my air bags on my ’72 blazer and I noticed that when its layed out the rear end is not centered. It’s much closer on the driver’s side. Will a shorter panhard bar correct this? If so, how do I know which one to buy? __________________ '72 2wd blazer, bagged w/ watts link & EDC '72 C10 "Lowered Farm Truck" STOLEN 5-18-11 '66 impala ht

01-27-2008, 11:06 AM	#2
68GMCCustom Truck and auto performance nut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: McKinney,Texas Posts: 3,848	Re: Panhard question you need an adjustable one. available thru most vendors. __________________ Kurt - '68 GMC short step - NIB '09 LY6 6.0L crate motor w/mods, NIB '12 crate 4L85e w/billet 3k stall Circle D, 3.73 posi 12 bolt, DynaTech f-swap headers, 3/4 drop, handling mods, etc. - my toy '72 Chevy LWB C-10 Highlander - 350/350 ps/pb/tilt/ac - not original but close '06 Chevy TrailBlazerSS - LS2/4L70e - little black hot rod SUV - my DD '18 Kia Sorento - wife's econo-driver '95 Chevy S10 - reg cab shortbed, LS, 4.3, auto... my '68's powertrain and chassis build -links broken A surprise phase - carb to efi -links broken

01-27-2008, 11:48 AM	#3
jlaird Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: johnstown, NY Posts: 2,393	Re: Panhard question Correct me if i'm wrong, but you want a longer bar, not a shorter one. The longer it is, the less movement you will get. Also, don't worry if your rearend is not centered when you're laid out. It shouldn't be. It should be setup so your all centered at ride height. Then as you move up or down from your ride height, you will get movement from center.

01-27-2008, 11:51 AM	#5
hotrodhomi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,737	Re: Panhard question I looked up bars at Summit and a saw that they had about a dozen choices from $85 to $200. Any recommendations? __________________ '72 2wd blazer, bagged w/ watts link & EDC '72 C10 "Lowered Farm Truck" STOLEN 5-18-11 '66 impala ht

01-27-2008, 12:16 PM	#6
jlaird Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: johnstown, NY Posts: 2,393	Re: Panhard question are you looking for a weld on or bolt on application?

01-27-2008, 12:20 PM	#7
jlaird Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: johnstown, NY Posts: 2,393	Re: Panhard question for bolt on, I would recommend to go to earlyclassic.com and check out the super track bar.

01-28-2008, 02:42 AM	#8
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	Re: Panhard question What you really need is a "Watts link". A panhard bar will always be off-center at some point in the suspension travel of a 'bagged vehicle. You can get an adjustable bar, but that only lets you decide "where" it is right. The more travel you have in your suspension, the greater the effect. A sliding, wish-bone type 3rd link will work too. It depends upon your fab skills and the available space under your truck, but you could do either.

01-28-2008, 03:10 AM	#10
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: Panhard question ECE... all the way! __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

01-28-2008, 06:43 AM	#11
hotrodhomi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,737	Re: Panhard question I'm not sure a watts link would work with my gas tank in the middle. __________________ '72 2wd blazer, bagged w/ watts link & EDC '72 C10 "Lowered Farm Truck" STOLEN 5-18-11 '66 impala ht

01-28-2008, 07:21 AM	#12
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Panhard question I'm surprised it's closer on the driver's side when "air'd out". I would think it would shift to the passenger side. Try the Super Track Bar from ECE. It's longer than the stock bar (for less movement),... and is a bolt on. But you will still get movement. And the reaseon it's longer,... is because it attaches to the passenger side trailing arm. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 01-28-2008 at 07:23 AM.

01-28-2008, 01:24 PM	#13
Slmd92DIME Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 481	Re: Panhard question I am seriously rethinkin the panhard in mine. I am leaning towards the watts also.

01-28-2008, 01:42 PM	#14
hotrodhomi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,737	Re: Panhard question Does anyone sell a kit for these or would I need to fab everything myself? __________________ '72 2wd blazer, bagged w/ watts link & EDC '72 C10 "Lowered Farm Truck" STOLEN 5-18-11 '66 impala ht

01-28-2008, 05:50 PM	#15
GMBowtie79 Surviving, one day at a time! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Turlock,CA Posts: 295	Re: Panhard question Check out KPComponants.com they might have one for your application.

01-29-2008, 06:35 AM	#18
Slmd92DIME Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 481	Re: Panhard question www.speedwaymotors has one for like 70 bucks. It goes off the top of the axle. You could make your own diff. bracket though.

01-29-2008, 09:28 AM	#19
GMBowtie79 Surviving, one day at a time! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Turlock,CA Posts: 295	Re: Panhard question That one from speedway might be goot on a 9" I dont know about mounting that top bracket on GM diff where the center section is cast. I'd take some mesurements and call KP to see if it would fit, Clint seems to know his s#!t.



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