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drop pic
hey guys, there is a tonne to search through. thought i would ask here.
i am going to just drop my 70 gmc on the cheap. going to cut a coil up front and thinking of just buildinga 2" lowering block for the rear. can someone post a pic if they have this set up to see if it is what i am after. thanks a bunch J
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Re: drop pic
don't do it! cutting the spring ruins it. building the blocks for the rear is fine, but cutting the springs is bad. might ride fine for a bit, but you will need new springs. my advice is to just go get the springs.
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Re: drop pic
i have cut a few before with no real ill affect. it is just my beater truck anyway.
anybody know if i can just replace the rear coil springs with some bags and just runa line with a shrader valve. then i can just drop it , and add some air whn i need to haul something?
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Re: drop pic
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Cut coils are ok if done in moderation. 1-coil typically nets 2 - 3" of drop & will increase spring rate about 20% over the stock rate which isn't bad. More than 1-coil & the suspension tends to bottom before the spring rate 'catches-up' meaning there's not enough spring rate vs. the amount of travel (so the ride quality tends to suck). Bags w/schraders out back are an easy upgrade, they won't hurt the ride quality (they'll actually help it), & aren't much more $$ than aftermarket drop springs ($120 for steel springs vs. $200 for 2-bags + hardware). Blocks are another good option for the rear since they offer drop w/o effecting the over-all shock travel. 2" blocks are about max for smaller diameter wheels though to keep things from hitting the pavement in the event of a blow-out/flat.
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Re: drop pic
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Cutting springs had been the norm from the 50's till the 90's when they started making lowering springs. It's fine, chop them if you want... just remember to take small bites. |
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Re: drop pic
well i haven't heard too many good things about cutting springs is all. but i think that putting bags as opposed to springs should work out ok.
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Re: drop pic
It's been 3 yrs. No ill effects.
1.5 > 2 coills up front. 2' blocks out back. esll. ![]()
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Re: drop pic
5 years on my cut springs and I don't have a problem with em' !! I agree with longhorn man take small bites like 1/2 coil at a time untill you get it where you want !! I think I cut 2 or 3 coils I can't remember but my truck sat way high factory . Plus I dropped the spring in the lower controll arms !!! Anyway CUT EM' Bob
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Re: drop pic
Do you have coils out back? Maybe a dumb queston but your truck looks just like mine and I have coils. I was thinking I could make blocks to put between the trailing arms and the diff.
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Re: drop pic
There is a BIG difference between cutting springs and heating springs. Cutting springs in small increments like 1/2 coil at a time is just fine. Heating them up and letting the sag to the preferred ride height is bad.
Been cutting coils with low, or no heat for years and never had a set collapse... ![]()
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Re: drop pic
My springs were cut 8 years ago by the PO and i dont have any problems just bottoms out if you hit railroad tracks a little fast
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Re: drop pic
nobody has pics ?
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Re: drop pic
Uhmm . . .... ESLL posted a pic of his 2-3" front & 2" rear drop in this thread. That's what your looking for right?
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Re: drop pic
I think cutting springs is way cheaper than bags. Especially when you add all the hardware, lines tanks etc. If its just your beater I wouldnt give it a second thought.
I wouldnt go with more than 2inch blocks in the for safety reasons like others have said. I do find it amusing though when bag guys (not all of em, just the below scrub line guys) warn about using too thick of block in case of a flat tire. If these guys have a bag malfunction it would be just as bad or even more catastrophic than the lowering block only guys. |
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Re: drop pic
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They can be done on a limited budget.
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Re: drop pic
me and some friends heated and completely removes the springs on a 74 c10 yesterday.. and cut all but one leaf in the rear... just to put up and down the street once... haha
the crossmember was littereally 1/2" from the ground, the sway bar was the only thing holding it up. we were geting ready to pull the motor, and part it. it headin to the scrapyard tommorrow... if it will go on the trailor now, lol |
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Re: drop pic
Bagged all the way around with no notch or blocks in the back
As long as you dont plan in riding very low you'll be fine without the notch Rode nice too I vote cut a coil up front & put bags in the back you can look in Sinisters build thread to see how I bagged the back (I used schrader valves too) |
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Re: drop pic
cool, thanks for the tips.
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Re: drop pic
yeh, his has coils out back like mine. and most gmc's. you can buy blocks as well.
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Re: drop pic
I just got my blocks yesterday from stockcarproducts.com attached is a pic they are aluminum and 1.5 inches is all he has right now dont know when he will get 2s back in.
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Re: drop pic
Thanks for the info on the blocks.
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Re: drop pic
I cut 2 coils off of mine up front and bought 6" drop coils in the back, i think the stance is perfect...
front before... ![]() front after... ![]() ![]() ![]() every picture has some different color on the truck and they were taken within days of each other ![]() Last edited by AlienYouth; 03-20-2008 at 03:17 AM. |
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