454BB valve cover hitting firewall!

[petey-pablo]

Any Input? I just bought a 1972 C-10 Cheyenne short bed with a 454bb TH400 it originaly had a inline 6 shifter on the tree and I was looking at the Motor it is sitting on the on V6 motor mounts wow I didn't know this could be done. Truck runs great but I tore it apart for paint But I want to change out the motor mounts . I was looking at the Driver side valve cover and it is hitting the fire wall Will this be corrected when I change out the motor mounts or do I have to pound my firewall in to make it fit right. Any one ever come accross this problem please much help is needed. I would post pictures but I do not know how...

[too much stuff]

Not sure if i got this correct, but sitting on V-6 mounts? Or sitting in the 6 cyl position? There should be another set of holes in the frame to move everything forward a couple of inches. Sometimes the vette low valve covers with the notch at the rear gives you a little more room.

[retselgerg]

yes by moving it from the I6 mount location to the V8 mount location you will gain a few inches, my farthers 72 was done the same way by the PO, its pretty straight forward to do....by the way welcome to the board you submit pictures by clicking on manage attachments..then just browse and find the pics u want to upload

[chevy72blu]

I would really like to see a few pics of how they adapted the I6 stands, especially in a 72.

[hvychve]

Originally Posted by chevy72blu

I would really like to see a few pics of how they adapted the I6 stands, especially in a 72.

yeah , me too.
If you want it correct, why not just purchase some big block perches and do it up correct, that or find you a big sledge and smack the firewall a few times.

[petey-pablo]

Thanks for your help guys ok here goes the pictures ! I am not a good photo taker so this is the best I can do but im warning you it's a big mess now "lol" well I tried to up load photos but this is what I kept getting over and over -----> you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

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[petey-pablo]

Ok this is the only way I could do this please view my Album. http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/i...Picture006.jpg

[too much stuff]

I know those taller valve covers aren't helping with clearance. My opinion is move everything forward to the V-8 set of holes. You may have to have a driveshaft made, or lengthen the one you have. It looks like this would be the time to do it. I think you will be happier in the long run. Other option is massage the firewall till everything clears. How tight is the dist.? Eric

[petey-pablo]

Well I never did think about the dist! but heres a pic. I was told I could go with 73 mounts would this be a good idea or should I jus try for the 72's

[Willys47]

73 mouts will not be a bolt in deal, I tryed and it woudnt work for me but the 72 mounts would

[royo]

Originally Posted by petey-pablo

Ok this is the only way I could do this please view my Album. http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/i...Picture006.jpg

hay man those hedders are nice what brand are they??

[petey-pablo]

Thanks ROYO they are Shorties Sanderson's block Huggers & Fit tight around the Block Im pulling them out Maybe I'll post them on the board later for like $40bucks plus shipping Don't know if they are worth anything for someone on a Budget! They do need some welding though where the bolts go theres a crack in every hole I'll post pictures later in the week If anyone is interested.. I've only taken the drivers side off so far, jus too lazy to take the other one off Since I have nothing to replace them with yet!

[royo]

Originally Posted by petey-pablo

Thanks ROYO they are Shorties Sanderson's block Huggers & Fit tight around the Block Im pulling them out Maybe I'll post them on the board later for like $40bucks plus shipping Don't know if they are worth anything for someone on a Budget! They do need some welding though where the bolts go theres a crack in every hole I'll post pictures later in the week If anyone is interested.. I've only taken the drivers side off so far, jus too lazy to take the other one off Since I have nothing to replace them with yet!

ok then let me know i would to see some better pics the tubes look to be 2in thanks

[chevy72blu]

I placed my BBC between the two holes for weight transfer and clearence up front.

I first adapted a 73+ SBC tower, and they work great on 67-71 trucks, but on a 72 you will not be happy. The motor sits upward at a goofy angle, too high in the center, and the valve covers hit the PB booster.





I've since found the correct 72 only towers from a board member. They were pricey, but I searched ebay and CL for litteraly 6 months for them.

The Performance Online tubular ones look pretty dinky to me. Being as I am building a street/strip monster, I didnt trust them. Also, I couldnt confirm if they would fit right in a 72, though they claim it. DUe to the differences in the frame/x member, I dont see how one that fits a 67-71 will work the exact same way.

Thats awsome and a DAMN good price if ECE carries them. Someone needs to repop these damn things.

Good luck and PM me if you have any questions

[69trk]

Originally Posted by chevy72blu

I placed my BBC between the two holes for weight transfer and clearence up front.

I first adapted a 73+ SBC tower, and they work great on 67-71 trucks, but on a 72 you will not be happy. The motor sits upward at a goofy angle, too high in the center, and the valve covers hit the PB booster.





I've since found the correct 72 only towers from a board member. They were pricey, but I searched ebay and CL for litteraly 6 months for them.

The Performance Online tubular ones look pretty dinky to me. Being as I am building a street/strip monster, I didnt trust them. Also, I couldnt confirm if they would fit right in a 72, though they claim it. DUe to the differences in the frame/x member, I dont see how one that fits a 67-71 will work the exact same way.

Thats awsome and a DAMN good price if ECE carries them. Someone needs to repop these damn things.

Good luck and PM me if you have any questions

I have the performance on line mounts for my big block and like them alot. My truck is set up for street and strip and i was going to go with solid mounts but ended up with the polyurathane instead. I also went with a chain to be safe. The only problem i have is my headers hit the lower a-frame bolt. I think that later i might change to solid mounts that are longer that will raise my engine about an inch or so. Other than that i like them alot. Truck has ran a best of 11.37 and getting faster.

[chevy72blu]

Originally Posted by 69trk

I have the performance on line mounts for my big block and like them alot. My truck is set up for street and strip and i was going to go with solid mounts but ended up with the polyurathane instead. I also went with a chain to be safe. The only problem i have is my headers hit the lower a-frame bolt. I think that later i might change to solid mounts that are longer that will raise my engine about an inch or so. Other than that i like them alot. Truck has ran a best of 11.37 and getting faster.

My main issue was that I couldnt confirm whether or not they would bit a 72 frame, but im glad to hear that they are strong. I probably would have put a nice weld where the female tube connected to the bent tube anyway- it just seemed dinky from the pictures of them.

Congrats on that time, btw!

[prostreet1967]

heres some pics of my engine bay.

yeah i know the boosters gotta go, its got about 1/2 between valve cover and booster. gotta order a manual brake pushrod or smaller booster

[GSFMECH]

Fellas, this is kind of off track but there seemed to be some confusion with the 72 mounts. The 67 to 71 B.B. mounts will work in a 72, there is no difference in the frame or the mounting holes. The question is about originality. The 72 mounts which I have in my truck are the clam shell type but bolt into the same holes as the saddle type mounts. You can pick up a set of 67-71 B.B. brackets (saddles) and use the actual small block motor mounts just fine in a 72. See the FAQ section, TxFireFighter did a write up on this very thing. The B.B. engine will physically bolt in on small block or I-6 mounts but the exhaust manifolds/ headers will not clear them, they will actually interfere with them and you'll probably have firewall issues with the I-6 mounts. The big block saddles make a dip to clear the exhaust. The V-8 mounts both big block and small block mount in the forward holes while the I-6 mounts are rearward but the big block and small block are not actually in the same combination of holes. When you bolt them in you will see how they fit, you can’t mix it up they only go one way. I have seen some crossmembers missing one of the lower holes needed for the clamshells and have had to drill them but will fit up the older style B.B. mounts just fine.When running a small block drag racing we used to mount the engine on the I-6 mounts as this placed the engine further back for better weight transfer. Just be sure you get the right saddles, there are 3 different ones, I-6, small block, and big block. The 72 only clamshell types are hard to come by, if you aren’t worried about originality forget about them. I have been messing with these trucks since the mid 70’s and have done many big block conversions, it’s easy if you get the right parts. Hope this helps.

[Longhorn Man]

That's probably just the motor mounts... not the brackets that bolt to the frame.

[petey-pablo]

Well I did ask twice I guess I will have to wait and see what they have for me when the parts do come in I will keep you posted!

[chevy72blu]

Wow! If you got what you wanted, that is an amazing price

[prostreet1967]

performance online has tubular mounts for good price they went in pretty easy i used the front holes and have alot of room in back can pull an hei dist with no problem. bad thing is no room up front so like someone above said make some holes in between which would be perfect. i cant even use electric fan because the water pump hits the fan. the only reason i left it like that is because i was to lazy to drill frame for trans crossmember

[69trk]

Originally Posted by prostreet1967

performance online has tubular mounts for good price they went in pretty easy i used the front holes and have alot of room in back can pull an hei dist with no problem. bad thing is no room up front so like someone above said make some holes in between which would be perfect. i cant even use electric fan because the water pump hits the fan. the only reason i left it like that is because i was to lazy to drill frame for trans crossmember

Did you have any problems with headers hitting lower a-frame? And what size headers are you using, i'm looking for some 2" primaries? Also looks like you're using solid mounts?

[prostreet1967]

no im not using solid mounts. heres some pics of the mounts and stands.
im using 2 inch primaries, and yeah i had to bang up my brand new headers for clearance, mainly on drivers side.

[prostreet1967]

oops forgot to post pics