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Knot at Work · 07-26-2008, 09:34 AM

Hello All. I am new to board, after lurking for a while. I recently bought a survivor 1972 C-10 one owner from Georgia. Truck is all original and has 127000 on motor. I have the maintenance records going all the way back to the first 15000 miles. Truck does not even have a tow hook on it (yet).

I have replaced the dash pad and am replacing the steerwheel this weekend.
I have a power steering kit new in box from GM bought the same year the truck was.

Do you think I will subtract any value from original status if I install Power Steering?

I intend to be true to the original stock of this truck and do not plan on hot rodding it. I even plan on putting the original rims and wheel covers bacck on it when I re-tire...

thoughts?

Great board and so much knowledge! Plus great classic Chevy trucks!

KAW

ChevLoRay · 07-26-2008, 09:38 AM

No. You may not realize any added value, but it will enhance your driving pleasure and allow your arms to relax. Think about parallel parking......

LONGHAIR · 07-26-2008, 09:45 AM

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Think about parallel parking......

Where do you have to do that anymore?.........LOL
So few people can actually park in a pull-in parking space, how could they ever parallel park?

BTW, welcome knot at work

ChevLoRay · 07-26-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LONGHAIR

Where do you have to do that anymore?.........LOL
So few people can actually park in a pull-in parking space, how could they ever parallel park?

Come on, don't you enjoy a challenge??? I drive a school bus, forty feet long x eight feet wide and I have FUN parallel parking it! I use up a few spaces, but I do it. You can do it, too!

These trucks are not a problem to park, parallel or not. Armstrong steering makes it more difficult, but it ain't no problem.

LONGHAIR · 07-26-2008, 03:53 PM

I have had a CDL for nearly 20 years. I took my original "C" class test in a school bus w/air brake and passenger endorsements.....but I live in a huge city with actual winter. There are people arond here that can't drive when the weather is nice, a little rain or snow and it just falls apart. Literally the people around here just go.......wherever, however, who cares about lines and curbs and barriers? If they want to go somewhere, just turn the wheel that direction and go. It's not as much about distraction as not knowing or not caring...
People seem to "forget" how to drive....it's more like point n shoot.
I was nearly involved in an accident the other night on the way home from work because some #%*@$! didn't "recognize" that everyone else was stopped because the electricity was off and the traffic light was dead. This clown just came barreling through the intersection, already above the speed limit, in a residential neighborhood. As Andy would say.......it was a "flat-spot" situation.

/hi-jack....or rant

**SactoJim** · 07-26-2008, 04:20 PM

Welcome.....and nice truck!

I kind of find it odd that it didn't come with power steering considering it's a Cheyenne. Of course my 72 SWB Cheyenne was originally ordered with a "3 on the tree" and had AC......go figure.

I would add PS in a heartbeat and I can't imagine that it would hurt value in any way.

I'd say do whatever you want to the truck to make it yours and the most enjoyable to drive......that's what it's all about.

In my mind, the truly collectable trucks of this era that are better left or restored to original condition, are the highly optioned types....like a SWB big block Super Cheyenne with all the available "bells & whistles" of that time. Anything else is fair game to do with what you please and if modifications are done tastefully and skillfully, I don't think you will hurt the value of the truck and may actually enhance it.

myoldchevytruck · 07-26-2008, 09:56 AM

First...

to the board from South Florida. And it's nice to see another Florida member. That is a really nice truck you have. Nice Score. As ChevLoRay mentioned, P/S would be a nice option to have. I don't think it would lower the value, especially if it was done as if it were done from the factory. After-all, it was an option. Of course the SPID on the glovebox door would not indicate it but it sounds like your gonna keep it for many years to come so I say go for it and enjoy that Power Steering. Original wheels and tires will only add to this already beauty.

LONGHAIR · 07-26-2008, 10:06 AM

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Original wheels and tires will only add to this already beauty.

Unless you are going for some "perfect" restoration....you don't want those old funky bias-ply tires.

myoldchevytruck · 07-26-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LONGHAIR

Unless you are going for some "perfect" restoration....you don't want those old funky bias-ply tires.

Longhair..so true. Sorry, I've only had 1 cup of coffee this morning.

LONGHAIR · 07-26-2008, 10:26 AM

You're gonna need a bigger...........cup

It's all good, original tires would probably be a little tough to find anyway.

Bus Ted Knuckle · 07-26-2008, 01:01 PM

Awsome looking truck! Go for the power steering, you won't regret it

dan42 · 07-26-2008, 03:58 PM

Careful out there Longhair, or you'll be a no-hair, like me.

If it were my truck (and it's not) I would probably upgrade the dizzy and the alternator. Other than that, just drive it.

**special-K** · 07-26-2008, 05:39 PM

WELCOME!!
Do the p/s if that`s how you want it to drive.Keep the manual parts you take off.It can always be put back to original.

67_C-30 · 07-26-2008, 05:46 PM

It seems that any factory improvements/options added to these trucks reflect positively in convenience and market value. I have seen people pay more $$$ for a little rougher truck with options like PS, PB, Auto than a nicer all manual truck with a 3OTT.

Chevyman680063 · 07-26-2008, 06:24 PM

to the board. Nice truck.

Longhorn Man · 07-26-2008, 07:35 PM

I would swap the power steering onto it without thinking twice. I think it would improve the value, there's lazy ppl like me who would stop looking at it (to buy) once the lack of power steering is noticed.
That, or I would get it home and install it pronto.

Welcome to the board from columbus ohio... where longhair and the million idiots he just described.
And it rained on my way home.... which pulled ALL the idiots out of there homes.

Knot at Work · 07-27-2008, 10:31 AM

Thanks for the comments fellas. I am really pleased with this truck. I took the Valve covers off to peak at the lifters and man was I glad to see clean even lubes with no hotspots.

Felt totally natural walking into Autozone and putting PVC, Fuel Filter, Air Filter, Coolant, Oil and wheel pullers into the basket!

Dude said, "looks like someone has a lot of work ahead for the weekend" I said, Work, no way, this is love man!

As for the power steering, I am surprised at how many of these came without Pwr Steering and Pwr Brakes... I am learning quite a few.

One thing about no power steering, wife won't drive it.. is that so wrong?

I am going to modify it though, since I agree, I wont be selling it and when and if I ever do, it wont subtract any value from a 100% original beauty.

Thanks for the advise.

KAW

sameyrasmea72 · 07-28-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knot at Work

One thing about no power steering, wife won't drive it.. is that so wrong?

KAW

Why are you even thinking about adding PS then???

straitnate14 · 07-28-2008, 04:48 PM

since when was leaving a truck all original fun? I like guessing what has been done by the guy before me.

sameyrasmea72 · 07-28-2008, 04:49 PM

very nice truck, by the way! Looks just like one of mine the day i brought it home, except fo the "super" part.

Knot at Work · 07-28-2008, 05:56 PM

Sam,

it does. Yours built in St Lois?

What have you done to it lately?

As for re-tires, I am not going with G78 ply... I am looking at BF Goodrich but I will put the new shoes on the original Rims and use the original Wheel covers with chrome and blue bow tie...

FRENCHBLUE72 · 07-27-2008, 11:00 AM

Welcome to the board and congrats on such a nice find..

BigDaddyDave · 07-27-2008, 11:36 AM

Welcome to the board from NC. Nice truck!

72BlckButy · 07-28-2008, 02:36 PM

to the board from Mid-MO!!!

Greart looking truck!

shaneschevys · 07-28-2008, 02:50 PM

Welcome from FT Worth TX. Nice looking truck!

07-26-2008, 09:34 AM	#1
Knot at Work Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 27	Intro Hello All. I am new to board, after lurking for a while. I recently bought a survivor 1972 C-10 one owner from Georgia. Truck is all original and has 127000 on motor. I have the maintenance records going all the way back to the first 15000 miles. Truck does not even have a tow hook on it (yet). I have replaced the dash pad and am replacing the steerwheel this weekend. I have a power steering kit new in box from GM bought the same year the truck was. Do you think I will subtract any value from original status if I install Power Steering? I intend to be true to the original stock of this truck and do not plan on hot rodding it. I even plan on putting the original rims and wheel covers bacck on it when I re-tire... thoughts? Great board and so much knowledge! Plus great classic Chevy trucks! KAW Attached Images

07-26-2008, 09:38 AM	#2
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Intro No. You may not realize any added value, but it will enhance your driving pleasure and allow your arms to relax. Think about parallel parking...... __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

07-26-2008, 03:53 PM	#5
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	Re: Intro I have had a CDL for nearly 20 years. I took my original "C" class test in a school bus w/air brake and passenger endorsements.....but I live in a huge city with actual winter. There are people arond here that can't drive when the weather is nice, a little rain or snow and it just falls apart. Literally the people around here just go.......wherever, however, who cares about lines and curbs and barriers? If they want to go somewhere, just turn the wheel that direction and go. It's not as much about distraction as not knowing or not caring... People seem to "forget" how to drive....it's more like point n shoot. I was nearly involved in an accident the other night on the way home from work because some #%@$! didn't "recognize" that everyone* else was stopped because the electricity was off and the traffic light was dead. This clown just came barreling through the intersection, already above the speed limit, in a residential neighborhood. As Andy would say.......it was a "flat-spot" situation. /hi-jack....or rant Last edited by LONGHAIR; 07-27-2008 at 11:18 AM. Reason: wording

07-26-2008, 04:20 PM	#6
SactoJim Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,970	Re: Intro Welcome.....and nice truck! I kind of find it odd that it didn't come with power steering considering it's a Cheyenne. Of course my 72 SWB Cheyenne was originally ordered with a "3 on the tree" and had AC......go figure. I would add PS in a heartbeat and I can't imagine that it would hurt value in any way. I'd say do whatever you want to the truck to make it yours and the most enjoyable to drive......that's what it's all about. In my mind, the truly collectable trucks of this era that are better left or restored to original condition, are the highly optioned types....like a SWB big block Super Cheyenne with all the available "bells & whistles" of that time. Anything else is fair game to do with what you please and if modifications are done tastefully and skillfully, I don't think you will hurt the value of the truck and may actually enhance it. __________________ 72 Cheyenne SWB Fleet Nut & bolt frame off in progress...99.9999% - supercharged 383 - 4 wheel discs - relocated fuel tank - My Build Thread Last edited by SactoJim; 07-26-2008 at 06:03 PM.

07-26-2008, 09:56 AM	#7
myoldchevytruck Retired Air Force Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida 33024 Posts: 1,808	Re: Intro First... to the board from South Florida. And it's nice to see another Florida member. That is a really nice truck you have. Nice Score. As ChevLoRay mentioned, P/S would be a nice option to have. I don't think it would lower the value, especially if it was done as if it were done from the factory. After-all, it was an option. Of course the SPID on the glovebox door would not indicate it but it sounds like your gonna keep it for many years to come so I say go for it and enjoy that Power Steering. Original wheels and tires will only add to this already beauty. __________________ Harry 69' SWB Step Side 1/2 Ton w/68' Front Clip Swap from Leafs to Trailing Arms (Complete) Swap 6 Lug to 5 Lug (w/ Disk Brakes in Front) 3/6 Drop Help Support The Board Click Here For Information On How To Subscribe Krue's FAQ Page Vendors Last edited by myoldchevytruck; 07-26-2008 at 09:59 AM.

07-26-2008, 10:26 AM	#10
LONGHAIR just can't cover up my redneck Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 11,414	Re: Intro You're gonna need a bigger...........cup It's all good, original tires would probably be a little tough to find anyway.

07-26-2008, 01:01 PM	#11
Bus Ted Knuckle Son of a gun Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 1,636	Re: Intro Awsome looking truck! Go for the power steering, you won't regret it __________________ Bill BEATERS ARE NEATER

07-26-2008, 03:58 PM	#12
dan42 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cali Central Coast Posts: 5,191	Re: Intro Careful out there Longhair, or you'll be a no-hair, like me. If it were my truck (and it's not) I would probably upgrade the dizzy and the alternator. Other than that, just drive it. __________________ '67 SWB Fleetside ZZ4/350/Tremec 5-speed/4link/Scott's IFS - and fun as heck! SOLD Click here to support the board Philippians 4: 6-7

07-26-2008, 05:39 PM	#13
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Intro WELCOME!! Do the p/s if that`s how you want it to drive.Keep the manual parts you take off.It can always be put back to original. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-26-2008, 05:46 PM	#14
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: Intro It seems that any factory improvements/options added to these trucks reflect positively in convenience and market value. I have seen people pay more $$$ for a little rougher truck with options like PS, PB, Auto than a nicer all manual truck with a 3OTT. __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club!

07-26-2008, 06:24 PM	#15
Chevyman680063 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 850	Re: Intro to the board. Nice truck.

07-26-2008, 07:35 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: Intro I would swap the power steering onto it without thinking twice. I think it would improve the value, there's lazy ppl like me who would stop looking at it (to buy) once the lack of power steering is noticed. That, or I would get it home and install it pronto. Welcome to the board from columbus ohio... where longhair and the million idiots he just described. And it rained on my way home.... which pulled ALL the idiots out of there homes.

07-27-2008, 10:31 AM	#17
Knot at Work Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 27	Re: Intro Thanks for the comments fellas. I am really pleased with this truck. I took the Valve covers off to peak at the lifters and man was I glad to see clean even lubes with no hotspots. Felt totally natural walking into Autozone and putting PVC, Fuel Filter, Air Filter, Coolant, Oil and wheel pullers into the basket! Dude said, "looks like someone has a lot of work ahead for the weekend" I said, Work, no way, this is love man! As for the power steering, I am surprised at how many of these came without Pwr Steering and Pwr Brakes... I am learning quite a few. One thing about no power steering, wife won't drive it.. is that so wrong? I am going to modify it though, since I agree, I wont be selling it and when and if I ever do, it wont subtract any value from a 100% original beauty. Thanks for the advise. KAW

07-28-2008, 04:48 PM	#19
straitnate14 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bartonville IL Posts: 415	Re: Intro since when was leaving a truck all original fun? I like guessing what has been done by the guy before me. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

07-28-2008, 04:49 PM	#20
sameyrasmea72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,443	Re: Intro very nice truck, by the way! Looks just like one of mine the day i brought it home, except fo the "super" part. Attached Images __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super 80 Silverado Blazer 2wd



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07-28-2008, 05:56 PM	#21
Knot at Work Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pensacola FL Posts: 27	Re: Intro Sam, it does. Yours built in St Lois? What have you done to it lately? As for re-tires, I am not going with G78 ply... I am looking at BF Goodrich but I will put the new shoes on the original Rims and use the original Wheel covers with chrome and blue bow tie...

07-27-2008, 11:00 AM	#22
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