Suspension dilema - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

ryno137 · 09-06-2008, 11:21 PM

I recently bought my 72 gmc burb and I decided to rebuild the worn out suspension. So I picked up a kit from LMC. The problem is that the ball joints and tie rod ends are to small for the spindles. The kit I ordered is for a 71-72 2wd 1/2 ton w/ p/s. I know its a half ton b/c I checked the VIN, and besides that it's got 5 lug wheels. After a trip to the local parts store I discovered that the ball joints from a 72 3/4 ton are the correct size. This being my first GM project I'm not sure what parts are interchangeable. Not really sure if the rest of my kit is usable. If any one has ever come across this before I sure would appreciate some help.

**lolife99** · 09-07-2008, 08:17 AM

Can you post some pics of your front suspension and of your burb? Maybe it has 73-87 suspension on it or had 3/4 ton lower arms swapped onto it.

Keep on Trucking · 09-07-2008, 02:11 PM

If the 3/4t ball joints fits your control arm and your spindle, use them.
Is your truck rear leaf or coil? I have heard the leaf spring rears were called "heavy halfs" If that is true it may also have 3/4t fronts????

Longhorn Man · 09-07-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Keep on Trucking

I have heard the leaf spring rears were called "heavy halfs"...

there were no heavy half trucks in 67 - 72, that was a mid to late 70's thing. And I don't think there was ever a heavy half burb.

ryno137 · 09-07-2008, 02:23 PM

It's got coils out back. I have no problem using the 3/4 ton parts, it's just that I've already got a complete 1/2 ton kit. So what else is different between the 1/2 and 3/4 ton. I've already established that I can't use 1/2 ton ball joints or outer tie rod ends, but what about the coil springs, control arm shafts, idler arm, sway bar bushings, inner tie rod ends, pitman arm, and adjusting sleeves? I'm starting to think that I should just return the kit I bought and replace everything piece by piece.

d10s69c10 · 09-07-2008, 02:28 PM

you will soon realize everything interchanges to easy and you can just about fit 20 years of 20 vehicles into 1 truck.

depending on P.o. it can be quite a jub getting everything back right.

my 69 is covered in 72 and 86 parts.

ryno137 · 09-07-2008, 02:48 PM

Here are some pics of the lowers, spindles, and the uppers with 3/4 ton ball joints and 1/2 ton shafts installed.

**lolife99** · 09-07-2008, 10:29 PM

I wonder if the kit you got from LMC is for the 67-70 model front end?

ryno137 · 09-07-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

I wonder if the kit you got from LMC is for the 67-70 model front end?

I checked the part numbers I received vs. the catalog and it says it's for a 71-72. I guess I'll just have to compare my new parts with the old ones to determine what I can use from the kit. Thanks for the input though.

MrGoodpliers · 09-08-2008, 12:08 PM

My 72 burb 1/2 ton uses 3/4 ton ball joints and tie rods. It was a mid-year switch. I had the part numbers written down somewhere but I cant find them. Early Classic Enterprises can hook you up. They also have drop spindles that will work with these parts.

ryno137 · 09-08-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGoodpliers

My 72 burb 1/2 ton uses 3/4 ton ball joints and tie rods. It was a mid-year switch. I had the part numbers written down somewhere but I cant find them. Early Classic Enterprises can hook you up. They also have drop spindles that will work with these parts.

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**oldiron** · 09-08-2008, 07:04 PM

Sorry but your next question should be can you send back for credit. Since you are not a subscriber you are unable to post anything for sale or a want to buy post.
Sorry.
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**special-K** · 09-10-2008, 05:16 AM

I believe that part was editted out by Old Iron.It`s confusing when this happens.But,the for sale part of the post must be wiped out.

Ryno137,You`re not in trouble,just a reminder/warning that 9 out of 10 need at one time or another.It`s in the site rules buying & selling conduct.WELCOME!!!!!!
About your front end.I think i`d return the entire kit from LMC and get what you need local.I find all that at Napa and often parts are wrong,like rear brakes.You can`t beat bringing a part in and plunking it on a counter when you`re having a tough time finding the right listing.It looks like you`ve found,from another member,that you have a late year change in design and GM went to the larger ball-joints.This is what`s great about this site,huh?Not only is your computer a great place to find info,it answers you in the form of another person with 1st hand experience.That`s why I subscribed.

ryno137 · 09-10-2008, 12:06 PM

Thanks everyone I think I'm on track now. I appreciate all the info, and I'm really enjoying this site. I'm sure I'll be hitting you guys up in the future as this project progresses.

semper

ryno137 · 09-23-2008, 12:56 AM

Just wanted to say thanks again for everyones input. It's starting to go back together now. I ended up having to buy 3/4 ton upper and lower ball joints, inner tie rod ends, and outer tie rod ends. Also discovered my lower arms were junk so I scrounged some good ones from a 79 3/4 ton pickup that a friend was scrapping. I wish I had more time to do some heavy cleaning, but I've got to get it back on it's wheels so I can trailer it back to AZ.

09-06-2008, 11:21 PM	#1
ryno137 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 18	Suspension dilema I recently bought my 72 gmc burb and I decided to rebuild the worn out suspension. So I picked up a kit from LMC. The problem is that the ball joints and tie rod ends are to small for the spindles. The kit I ordered is for a 71-72 2wd 1/2 ton w/ p/s. I know its a half ton b/c I checked the VIN, and besides that it's got 5 lug wheels. After a trip to the local parts store I discovered that the ball joints from a 72 3/4 ton are the correct size. This being my first GM project I'm not sure what parts are interchangeable. Not really sure if the rest of my kit is usable. If any one has ever come across this before I sure would appreciate some help.

09-07-2008, 08:17 AM	#2
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Suspension dilema Can you post some pics of your front suspension and of your burb? Maybe it has 73-87 suspension on it or had 3/4 ton lower arms swapped onto it. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

09-07-2008, 02:11 PM	#3
Keep on Trucking Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: League city/Houston Posts: 163	Re: Suspension dilema If the 3/4t ball joints fits your control arm and your spindle, use them. Is your truck rear leaf or coil? I have heard the leaf spring rears were called "heavy halfs" If that is true it may also have 3/4t fronts???? __________________ 1970 4X4, Big block 454, 4 speed, vintage air, Mahagony wood bed, Tilt, tach. Can have new owner for the right price. "Life is tough, its tougher if you are stupid" (John Wayne) My buddys truck for sale here. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/c...p?product=2676

09-07-2008, 02:23 PM	#5
ryno137 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 18	Re: Suspension dilema It's got coils out back. I have no problem using the 3/4 ton parts, it's just that I've already got a complete 1/2 ton kit. So what else is different between the 1/2 and 3/4 ton. I've already established that I can't use 1/2 ton ball joints or outer tie rod ends, but what about the coil springs, control arm shafts, idler arm, sway bar bushings, inner tie rod ends, pitman arm, and adjusting sleeves? I'm starting to think that I should just return the kit I bought and replace everything piece by piece.

09-07-2008, 02:28 PM	#6
d10s69c10 Built 4 Speed Join Date: May 2008 Location: Geneva FL Posts: 619	Re: Suspension dilema you will soon realize everything interchanges to easy and you can just about fit 20 years of 20 vehicles into 1 truck. depending on P.o. it can be quite a jub getting everything back right. my 69 is covered in 72 and 86 parts. __________________ 1969 C/10 Short Box: 496/T-56 in worx. "To Be Old And Wise, First You Must Be Young And Stupid"

09-07-2008, 02:48 PM	#7
ryno137 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 18	Re: Suspension dilema Here are some pics of the lowers, spindles, and the uppers with 3/4 ton ball joints and 1/2 ton shafts installed. Attached Images

09-07-2008, 10:29 PM	#8
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: Suspension dilema I wonder if the kit you got from LMC is for the 67-70 model front end? __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

09-08-2008, 12:08 PM	#10
MrGoodpliers Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gainesville, Georgia Posts: 704	Re: Suspension dilema My 72 burb 1/2 ton uses 3/4 ton ball joints and tie rods. It was a mid-year switch. I had the part numbers written down somewhere but I cant find them. Early Classic Enterprises can hook you up. They also have drop spindles that will work with these parts. __________________ We made Oklahoma a little after 3, Randy & his brother Bob & my old GMC...

09-08-2008, 07:04 PM	#12
oldiron Designated Grumpy Old Man Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: arlington, washington usa Posts: 3,094	Re: Suspension dilema Sorry but your next question should be can you send back for credit. Since you are not a subscriber you are unable to post anything for sale or a want to buy post. Sorry. oldiron forum staff __________________ Never let the truth get in the way of a good story 71 Chev 1/2 ton 4X4 LWB Fleetside SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=361222 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LgREwtDfaA 68 Chev 1 ton flat bed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bO8szzlD4A 56 Chev Handyman Wagon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y-6ddpBTkM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbLzZ7zY8wA 56 Chev Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=410667 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoW0Ei7ZNIg

09-10-2008, 05:16 AM	#13
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Suspension dilema I believe that part was editted out by Old Iron.It`s confusing when this happens.But,the for sale part of the post must be wiped out. Ryno137,You`re not in trouble,just a reminder/warning that 9 out of 10 need at one time or another.It`s in the site rules buying & selling conduct.WELCOME!!!!!! About your front end.I think i`d return the entire kit from LMC and get what you need local.I find all that at Napa and often parts are wrong,like rear brakes.You can`t beat bringing a part in and plunking it on a counter when you`re having a tough time finding the right listing.It looks like you`ve found,from another member,that you have a late year change in design and GM went to the larger ball-joints.This is what`s great about this site,huh?Not only is your computer a great place to find info,it answers you in the form of another person with 1st hand experience.That`s why I subscribed. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

09-10-2008, 12:06 PM	#14
ryno137 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 18	Re: Suspension dilema Thanks everyone I think I'm on track now. I appreciate all the info, and I'm really enjoying this site. I'm sure I'll be hitting you guys up in the future as this project progresses. semper

09-23-2008, 12:56 AM	#15
ryno137 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 18	Re: Suspension dilema Just wanted to say thanks again for everyones input. It's starting to go back together now. I ended up having to buy 3/4 ton upper and lower ball joints, inner tie rod ends, and outer tie rod ends. Also discovered my lower arms were junk so I scrounged some good ones from a 79 3/4 ton pickup that a friend was scrapping. I wish I had more time to do some heavy cleaning, but I've got to get it back on it's wheels so I can trailer it back to AZ. Attached Images



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