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Camper Power · 01-12-2009, 08:27 PM

just read this thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=3078236 and i guess you guys say FRAMS are junk, and i have a fram on my truck now. so what do you guys perfer, i was thinking of a K&N. and im using using Q horsepower synthedic oil.

Tynee · 01-12-2009, 08:42 PM

I run mobile1 filters. Wix are good filters as well (from everything I've read), and I seem to remember that Napa Gold filters are a wix.

My $.02, if its worth that much.

Thanks for opening this can of worms again, and thanks for giving me the chance to be the first to reply. lol

krue · 01-12-2009, 09:07 PM

I don't know about the KN filters but Napa gold or wix is my choice.

pilotj · 01-12-2009, 09:16 PM

I always try to use Puralator pure1 filter but I like Wix filters too.

70clone · 01-12-2009, 09:22 PM

i had a dodge neon that i did a 2.4 conversion to i installed the new k&n filter on it 3 months later spun a rod bearing, i pulled that motor out installed another junk yard motor drove it for six months changed oil twice then i was at advance looked up and sd hey ill put the k&n one on drove it for 3 months and spun another bearing, dont know if its the fillter or if its just coincidental but i will never use them again.I will and always have used mobil one i like there filter as well ive heard good things about the prulator micronic as well but i really like mobil1

Tx Firefighter · 01-12-2009, 09:33 PM

I'm a WIX man myself.

yotaforce · 01-12-2009, 09:55 PM

I have used Fram for the last 20 years on every car or truck I have had and I have never had anything go wrong. I have built motors (4cyl and 8's), raced a few of them, and still, never had a problem with the filtration of a Fram.
Speaking of oil and filters, I think it's funny when people go Mobil1 synthetic, then realize 3k miles down the road that they don't want to keep making a 'car payment' to change the oil, and when they go back to normal oil, it reacts with the synthetic and foams up in the case, leaving them confused when they check the dipstick.

68gmsee · 01-13-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by yotaforce

I have used Fram for the last 20 years on every car or truck I have had and I have never had anything go wrong. I have built motors (4cyl and 8's)...........

Same here. I've been using them for as long as don't care to remember. And still use them on my vehicles.

But, after reading the problems people have removing them, I'm thinking of testing a different brand on my 68 six cylinder. I always have a hell of a time removing the filter. I had to chisel them off the last couple of times. I adhere to the lubing the seal principle but it hasn't helped on this one.

big_al_71 · 01-13-2009, 11:19 AM

I have used FRAM filter my whole life and have never had any issues. If you over tie them when you put it on you are going to have an issue with any filter....

Tynee · 01-13-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 68gmsee

Same here. I've been using them for as long as don't care to remember. And still use them on my vehicles.

But, after reading the problems people have removing them, I'm thinking of testing a different brand on my 68 six cylinder. I always have a hell of a time removing the filter. I had to chisel them off the last couple of times. I adhere to the lubing the seal principle but it hasn't helped on this one.

Not to sidetrack, but I lube the seal on my mobile 1's as well. I spin the filter until its snug, then 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn further by hand, and walk away. I use no filter wrench, and never have to have one to get my filters back off either. Hand tighten on, remove by hand. I've never had trouble with a filter leaking (now everwhere ELSE leaks on most of my engines, but that's a whole different set of issues). Now, I may not be the best reference here, since you won't meet a lot of people with a stronger grip than me. I can apply more pressure than just about anybody else I've met - other than a few pipe-fitters, professional welders, and boilermakers - simply due to the overwhelming size of my hands.

Ok, I sidetracked after I said I wouldn't. sorry.

Ole Blue 68 · 01-13-2009, 02:35 PM

I switched from Fram to K&N because of all the bad stuff I've been reading about Fram lately. I also like that K&N's got a nut on the front of their filters that makes them easy to get off; no messing with a filter wrench or anything.

**truckdude239** · 01-14-2009, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by yotaforce

I think it's funny when people go Mobil1 synthetic, then realize 3k miles down the road that they don't want to keep making a 'car payment' to change the oil, and when they go back to normal oil, it reacts with the synthetic and foams up in the case, leaving them confused when they check the dipstick.

um not ture

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/If_you_use...nventional_oil.

i work in a shop and have people do it all the time but i normally recomend they step back down sync then a sync blend then regular

**70cst** · 01-14-2009, 08:19 AM

Very good info guys.

1968SWBBigBlock · 01-12-2009, 10:07 PM

Napa Gold
If you do a google search FRAM had a very large recall last year on their filters - not good news - Fram used to make a good product - no longer - the use cardboard when others use metal

Senator350 · 01-12-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1968SWBBigBlock

Napa Gold
If you do a google search FRAM had a very large recall last year on their filters - not good news - Fram used to make a good product - no longer - the use cardboard when others use metal

EEETS TRUE! Fram are garbage... It's actually a little hard just to google search the studies that cut all these filters open and measured things.. like filtering surface area, metal/cardboard/plastic pieces inside, feed and drainback design...

Anyway... Mobil1, K&N, and Bosch are all made by the same company, and are wayayayayay better than wix (aka napa), fram, etc...

Synthetic oil, and a good filter are a small investment for something so close to your heart

SilveradoDude · 04-26-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1968SWBBigBlock

Napa Gold
If you do a google search FRAM had a very large recall last year on their filters - not good news - Fram used to make a good product - no longer - the use cardboard when others use metal

I did a Google search and found no large recall on Fram filters.

Sport/Truck · 04-26-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SilveradoDude

I did a Google search and found no large recall on Fram filters.

http://www.fram.com/recall/index.php#Q1

SilveradoDude · 04-26-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sport/Truck

http://www.fram.com/recall/index.php#Q1

Quote:

Q: What products are being recalled?
A: Only the FRAM Racing oil filters HP4 and HP8 that were manufactured from May 25, 2006 through September 14, 2007.

Hardly a massive recall and only racing filters.

Sport/Truck · 04-26-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SilveradoDude

Hardly a massive recall and only racing filters.

True, but I never said there was recall. In fact, I work for Honeywell and never heard of a filter recall. But someone said it, and I checked it out for myself. That was the first thing that popped up.

s/t

**WIDESIDE72** · 01-12-2009, 11:46 PM

I used Fram at one time. I use Wix or AC Delco now.

petey-pablo · 01-13-2009, 09:12 AM

WHat about Royal Purple has anyone used this Brand of Oil Filter it being new and all.."Designed to provide 12000 miles of service" I wouldn't go that long but hey maybe on my honda Ok maybe I wouldn't.. But here check it out
Heres a write up I found on another Site I though it was interesting..
http://dodgetruckworld.tenmagazines.....asp?id=304882
Heres some more info http://www.champlabs.com/royalpurple.aspx

*MonteSS454* · 01-13-2009, 02:43 PM

I've used most all of them and have stuck with Wix or K&N.

Fram - Cheap
Delco - Meh
Pennzoil - Never!!!!!

Never coughed up the money for a mobil but I've heard good things from them.

And the nut on the bottom or the K&N is a joke, it's so flimsy it'll round out real easily.

Ole Blue 68 · 01-14-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MonteSS454

And the nut on the bottom or the K&N is a joke, it's so flimsy it'll round out real easily.

Never had a problem myself...

BluTrukker · 01-14-2009, 10:00 AM

I have always used fram and valvoline, and never had any problems. I've torn down motors that have always had purolator and mobil, and another that uses k&n and Qstate. both of those engines had a large amount of sludge in them. Whether the oil and filter did it or the drivers habits, I don't know. I think this is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument. You can always find people on both sides of any argument. Bottom line is all oils lubricate, and all filters well...filter. Do some research and use what you feel is best, or use what your dad always used like I do. sorry so wordy, just my.02. happy hunting!

Senator350 · 01-14-2009, 10:10 AM

[QUOTE=BluTrukker;3085673] I think this is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument.QUOTE]

Is it though? I mean, you can look and find articles written and pictures of all these filter's guts. Chevy v. Ford... consumer reports will actually tell you which models are holding up or costing more...

just like people have openned up these filters and found cheap materials and poor craftsmanship...

the information is out there.
actually... some of the information is in this thread...

01-12-2009, 08:27 PM	#1
Camper Power Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Grande Prairie Alberta Posts: 261	Oil Filter? just read this thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=3078236 and i guess you guys say FRAMS are junk, and i have a fram on my truck now. so what do you guys perfer, i was thinking of a K&N. and im using using Q horsepower synthedic oil. __________________ eh 1970 Chevy C20 daily driver 1975 GMC Jimmy 4x4 project 1966 GMC C10 Dad's project Last edited by Camper Power; 01-12-2009 at 08:28 PM.

01-12-2009, 08:42 PM	#2
Tynee I miss this truck. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lexington, KY U.S.A. Posts: 2,863	Re: Oil Filter? I run mobile1 filters. Wix are good filters as well (from everything I've read), and I seem to remember that Napa Gold filters are a wix. My $.02, if its worth that much. Thanks for opening this can of worms again, and thanks for giving me the chance to be the first to reply. lol __________________ '07 GMC Acadia SLT. Sweet ride. '08 Crew Cab Z-71 short bed. Really like this truck A LOT.

01-12-2009, 09:07 PM	#3
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,448	Re: Oil Filter? I don't know about the KN filters but Napa gold or wix is my choice. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

01-12-2009, 09:16 PM	#4
pilotj Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 78	Re: Oil Filter? I always try to use Puralator pure1 filter but I like Wix filters too. __________________ 1979 Chevy C20 350/TH400 1974 Chevy C30 350/4speed

01-12-2009, 09:22 PM	#5
70clone Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: JACKSONVILLE FL Posts: 200	Re: Oil Filter? i had a dodge neon that i did a 2.4 conversion to i installed the new k&n filter on it 3 months later spun a rod bearing, i pulled that motor out installed another junk yard motor drove it for six months changed oil twice then i was at advance looked up and sd hey ill put the k&n one on drove it for 3 months and spun another bearing, dont know if its the fillter or if its just coincidental but i will never use them again.I will and always have used mobil one i like there filter as well ive heard good things about the prulator micronic as well but i really like mobil1

01-12-2009, 09:33 PM	#6
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: Oil Filter? I'm a WIX man myself. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

01-12-2009, 09:55 PM	#7
yotaforce Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rutherfordton, NC Posts: 89	Re: Oil Filter? I have used Fram for the last 20 years on every car or truck I have had and I have never had anything go wrong. I have built motors (4cyl and 8's), raced a few of them, and still, never had a problem with the filtration of a Fram. Speaking of oil and filters, I think it's funny when people go Mobil1 synthetic, then realize 3k miles down the road that they don't want to keep making a 'car payment' to change the oil, and when they go back to normal oil, it reacts with the synthetic and foams up in the case, leaving them confused when they check the dipstick.

01-13-2009, 11:19 AM	#9
big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: Oil Filter? I have used FRAM filter my whole life and have never had any issues. If you over tie them when you put it on you are going to have an issue with any filter.... __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

01-13-2009, 02:35 PM	#11
Ole Blue 68 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 1,140	Re: Oil Filter? I switched from Fram to K&N because of all the bad stuff I've been reading about Fram lately. I also like that K&N's got a nut on the front of their filters that makes them easy to get off; no messing with a filter wrench or anything.

01-14-2009, 08:19 AM	#13
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: Oil Filter? Very good info guys. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

01-12-2009, 10:07 PM	#14
1968SWBBigBlock Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,643	Re: Oil Filter? Napa Gold If you do a google search FRAM had a very large recall last year on their filters - not good news - Fram used to make a good product - no longer - the use cardboard when others use metal __________________ 1968 SWB 454 + .040, 490HP x 540 FT pounds of Torque 10-1 Kb Forged pistons, recon rods w/ ARP wave loc bolts 781 heads Ported with 2.19/1.88 SSTvalves Lunati 60204 cam, Micro Trol lifters, Ported Edelbrock Performer Rpm manifold armor coated, Pertronix Triple Strike Ignition Holley 770 Street Avenger carb,Headers armor coated Built by Watson Ruppel Performance in Sarahsville Ohio. Hardshift Tranny Built Turbo 350,TSI 10" 3000 stall 12 Bolt Eaton Posi 4.10 Richmond Gears moser axles 18.5" x 31" Hoosier Pro Street Radials ET Classic 5 Wheels - polished Power Steering, Power Brakes,Disc Brakes,Tach & Gauge Dash, Tilt,Factory Air (gone) Custom Paint & Body Work Special thanks to my wife, my son and my money tree

01-12-2009, 11:46 PM	#20
WIDESIDE72 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cedar Park, Texas Posts: 7,500	Re: Oil Filter? I used Fram at one time. I use Wix or AC Delco now.

01-13-2009, 09:12 AM	#21
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01-13-2009, 02:43 PM	#22
MonteSS454 Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Claremore, Oklahoma Posts: 821	Re: Oil Filter? I've used most all of them and have stuck with Wix or K&N. Fram - Cheap Delco - Meh Pennzoil - Never!!!!! Never coughed up the money for a mobil but I've heard good things from them. And the nut on the bottom or the K&N is a joke, it's so flimsy it'll round out real easily.

01-14-2009, 10:00 AM	#24
BluTrukker BOHICA Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stewartville, MN Posts: 440	Re: Oil Filter? I have always used fram and valvoline, and never had any problems. I've torn down motors that have always had purolator and mobil, and another that uses k&n and Qstate. both of those engines had a large amount of sludge in them. Whether the oil and filter did it or the drivers habits, I don't know. I think this is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument. You can always find people on both sides of any argument. Bottom line is all oils lubricate, and all filters well...filter. Do some research and use what you feel is best, or use what your dad always used like I do. sorry so wordy, just my.02. happy hunting!



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01-14-2009, 10:10 AM	#25
Senator350 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 522	Re: Oil Filter? [QUOTE=BluTrukker;3085673] I think this is like the old Ford vs Chevy argument.QUOTE] Is it though? I mean, you can look and find articles written and pictures of all these filter's guts. Chevy v. Ford... consumer reports will actually tell you which models are holding up or costing more... just like people have openned up these filters and found cheap materials and poor craftsmanship... the information is out there. actually... some of the information is in this thread... __________________ RN U OVR

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