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MrC1 · 02-27-2009, 03:54 PM

LMC has a retractable kit that looks pretty good or $90. Why are guys going to junkyards to find mid-90s sets? Are they better somehow?

**LEEVON** · 02-27-2009, 04:08 PM

I think cost is a major factor, the LMC retractable belts and others are around $90 each for driver and passenger. Add another $30 and tax and you're approaching $250. I had a set of early 90's belts in my truck at one time with a matching seat and they were free or cheap.

MrC1 · 02-27-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LEEVON

I think cost is a major factor, the LMC retractable belts and others are around $90 each for driver and passenger. Add another $30 and tax and you're approaching $250. I had a set of early 90's belts in my truck at one time with a matching seat and they were free or cheap.

$250? Isn't LMC tax free since it's ail order? Should be $90 + shipping.......or am I missing something here?

68gmsee · 02-27-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC1

$250? Isn't LMC tax free since it's ail order? Should be $90 + shipping.......or am I missing something here?

I think it all depends on the state you live in.

"If an online retailer has a physical presence in a particular state, such as a store, business office, or warehouse, it must collect sales tax from customers in that state. If a business does not have a physical presence in a state, it is not required to collect sales tax for sales into that state. This rule is derived from a 1992 Supreme Court decision which held that mail-order merchants did not need to collect sales taxes for sales into states where they did not have a physical presence."

**LEEVON** · 02-27-2009, 11:43 PM

well, heck I don't know about the tax but I know that S-10 belts = inexpensive and new belts = more expensive. To answer your question, I don't think S-10 belts are superior, just cheaper.

I called Cheyenne Super Man the other day and he is going to redo my factory lap belts. It is expensive, but the stockers look the best, and for a Sunday driver will function just fine.

ETsC10 · 02-28-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LEEVON

well, heck I don't know about the tax but I know that S-10 belts = inexpensive and new belts = more expensive. To answer your question, I don't think S-10 belts are superior, just cheaper.

I called Cheyenne Super Man the other day and he is going to redo my factory lap belts. It is expensive, but the stockers look the best, and for a Sunday driver will function just fine.

I want my belts not only to look stock and be affordable but to be safe too. I will be having my stock belts re-webbed, as well.
Here's Brads post on more belt info..
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=326621

**special-K** · 02-27-2009, 04:10 PM

LMC isn`t the only one selling new belts.I like Chevy parts on Chevys.

MrC1 · 02-27-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

LMC isn`t the only one selling new belts.I like Chevy parts on Chevys.

I'd like nothng more than to get some American made belts for the truck, but where to get them? I assume the LMC kit is Chinese.

Stock72c10 · 02-27-2009, 04:47 PM

I just ordered a pair for my '72 from here:
http://www.trubelt.com/products/details/id/2
They cost ~$135 total and you can get any hardware you need for them. The quality is good and I like the aviation style latches personally.

*chevy29267truck* · 02-28-2009, 12:05 AM

well sir i got my used from a guy and they where in great shape my truck is 1967 so is the seat belts i only paid $50 for both sides and there blue

truckster · 02-28-2009, 12:08 AM

Mine came out of the same truck my seat came from.

texanidiot25 · 02-28-2009, 12:15 AM

S10 belts are metal, and say "Genuine Chevrolet" on them, I think

They look better and are cheaper IMO.

kgt · 02-28-2009, 12:31 AM

Not a part one should worry about the price...

texanidiot25 · 02-28-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kgt

Not a part one should worry about the price...

So long as the vehicle your pulling it from doesn't show any signs of being wrecked, your pretty set.

MrC1 · 02-28-2009, 05:21 PM

I'm wondering now if the LMC retractable 3-point set (shoulder belt kit) has the ratcheting lock thingie in it where it locks when there's a sudden forward movement (from an impact). LMC can't tell me.

Anyone know?

**LEEVON** · 02-28-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC1

I'm wondering now if the LMC retractable 3-point set (shoulder belt kit) has the ratcheting lock thingie in it where it locks when there's a sudden forward movement (from an impact). LMC can't tell me.

Anyone know?

it would have to, typically it's an "inertia" mechanism. There's a weight that locks the retractor when it swings too far from center, at least that's what I found last time I took one apart (I was curious too).

texanidiot25 · 02-28-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC1

I'm wondering now if the LMC retractable 3-point set (shoulder belt kit) has the ratcheting lock thingie in it where it locks when there's a sudden forward movement (from an impact). LMC can't tell me.

Anyone know?

Of course it does. If it didn't then what use would the seat belts be if they didn't lock?

*chevy29267truck* · 02-28-2009, 01:05 AM

Well LMC is too much money for there parts there books are nice too look at i will be geting a book from brothers soon and i see how there prise are

68gmsee · 02-28-2009, 11:11 AM

Just an observation:

I'm not saying that you should or shouldn't buy seats from used/salvage vehicles, but in all the years of looking inside vehicles in junkyards, I have never seen a seatbelt torn in half.

I think one has to use common sense. If it's frayed or just looks very old, then it not safe.

weasel29gm · 02-28-2009, 11:28 AM

I bought new lap belts from Speedway for $20 a set.

**oldgold70c10** · 02-28-2009, 08:41 PM

They could be like the original retractable seatbelts. They didn't have the inertia mechanism. They only retract to the stowed position when your not wearing them. When you are wearing them, the belt is pulled out as far as it goes, and the other half is adjustable to make the belt tight. That is the way the factory l & r belts were.
BTW Classic parts also sells the aviation style belts. I plan on buying a couple for the back seat of my new burb.

cedorris · 03-03-2009, 12:35 AM

I planned on keeping my factory lap belts in my 72. Is this not advisable?

COc10cst50th · 03-03-2009, 12:51 AM

my truck is a 68, no seat belt is required for me.... hehe.

on the otheehand, i will be installing full 3point seatbelts in my truck, becaus i plan on having to transport my daughter in my truck and her saftey is #1.

tekno62 · 03-03-2009, 01:04 AM

I want to add them for my kids safety as well as my own.

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Originally Posted by COc10cst50th

my truck is a 68, no seat belt is required for me.... hehe.

on the otheehand, i will be installing full 3point seatbelts in my truck, becaus i plan on having to transport my daughter in my truck and her saftey is #1.

**special-K** · 03-03-2009, 09:09 AM

I wish someone made original looking modern shoulder/lap belts.I`d pay good money for those.I think Cheyenne Super Man does.

02-27-2009, 04:08 PM	#2
LEEVON Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 4,896	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? I think cost is a major factor, the LMC retractable belts and others are around $90 each for driver and passenger. Add another $30 and tax and you're approaching $250. I had a set of early 90's belts in my truck at one time with a matching seat and they were free or cheap. __________________ '86 GMC C30 Crew ~ '86 C20 Crew ~ '79 K15 Sierra Grande ~ '76 Blazer 2wd ~ '74K10 ~ '71 Cheyenne swb ~'50 3100 bagged ~ '80 Wife ~ Late model kids

02-27-2009, 11:43 PM	#5
LEEVON Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ozark, MO Posts: 4,896	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? well, heck I don't know about the tax but I know that S-10 belts = inexpensive and new belts = more expensive. To answer your question, I don't think S-10 belts are superior, just cheaper. I called Cheyenne Super Man the other day and he is going to redo my factory lap belts. It is expensive, but the stockers look the best, and for a Sunday driver will function just fine. __________________ '86 GMC C30 Crew ~ '86 C20 Crew ~ '79 K15 Sierra Grande ~ '76 Blazer 2wd ~ '74K10 ~ '71 Cheyenne swb ~'50 3100 bagged ~ '80 Wife ~ Late model kids Last edited by LEEVON; 02-27-2009 at 11:46 PM.

02-27-2009, 04:10 PM	#7
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? LMC isn`t the only one selling new belts.I like Chevy parts on Chevys. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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Stock72c10 classic=of recognized value Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 317	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? I just ordered a pair for my '72 from here: http://www.trubelt.com/products/details/id/2 They cost ~$135 total and you can get any hardware you need for them. The quality is good and I like the aviation style latches personally.

02-28-2009, 12:05 AM	#10
chevy29267truck Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alva Florida Posts: 668	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? well sir i got my used from a guy and they where in great shape my truck is 1967 so is the seat belts i only paid $50 for both sides and there blue

02-27-2009, 03:54 PM	#1
MrC1 Dork For Days Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 407	Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? LMC has a retractable kit that looks pretty good or $90. Why are guys going to junkyards to find mid-90s sets? Are they better somehow? __________________ 1972 C20, 402/700R4 - My first classic truck, bought in September 2005. 85% transformed from "Farm" to "Cool" status! 1970 Dodge Challenger 440, 4sp (my other toy) 12.67 @ 117 MPH, with a pathetic 2.022 60' 2007 Dodge Charger SRT-8 2008 Cadillac CTS All-American garage, baby!

02-28-2009, 12:08 AM	#11
truckster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 7,991	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? Mine came out of the same truck my seat came from.

02-28-2009, 12:15 AM	#12
texanidiot25 Eat My Rust Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 3,362	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? S10 belts are metal, and say "Genuine Chevrolet" on them, I think They look better and are cheaper IMO.

02-28-2009, 12:31 AM	#13
kgt Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Vancouver Posts: 147	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? Not a part one should worry about the price...

02-28-2009, 05:21 PM	#15
MrC1 Dork For Days Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 407	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? I'm wondering now if the LMC retractable 3-point set (shoulder belt kit) has the ratcheting lock thingie in it where it locks when there's a sudden forward movement (from an impact). LMC can't tell me. Anyone know? __________________ 1972 C20, 402/700R4 - My first classic truck, bought in September 2005. 85% transformed from "Farm" to "Cool" status! 1970 Dodge Challenger 440, 4sp (my other toy) 12.67 @ 117 MPH, with a pathetic 2.022 60' 2007 Dodge Charger SRT-8 2008 Cadillac CTS All-American garage, baby!

02-28-2009, 01:05 AM	#18
chevy29267truck Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alva Florida Posts: 668	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? Well LMC is too much money for there parts there books are nice too look at i will be geting a book from brothers soon and i see how there prise are

02-28-2009, 11:11 AM	#19
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? Just an observation: I'm not saying that you should or shouldn't buy seats from used/salvage vehicles, but in all the years of looking inside vehicles in junkyards, I have never seen a seatbelt torn in half. I think one has to use common sense. If it's frayed or just looks very old, then it not safe.

02-28-2009, 11:28 AM	#20
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,099	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? I bought new lap belts from Speedway for $20 a set. __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 38YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

02-28-2009, 08:41 PM	#21
oldgold70c10 Who's got steelies? Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Morrison, Oklahoma Posts: 1,025	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? They could be like the original retractable seatbelts. They didn't have the inertia mechanism. They only retract to the stowed position when your not wearing them. When you are wearing them, the belt is pulled out as far as it goes, and the other half is adjustable to make the belt tight. That is the way the factory l & r belts were. BTW Classic parts also sells the aviation style belts. I plan on buying a couple for the back seat of my new burb. __________________ 1969 C10 LWB W/ 250 I6 & 3spd 1970 C10 with '67 small window cab, 68 front end, blue; 305/TH350, 3.08 limited slip rear end, manual brakes, power steering; & 4-wheel drums-My daily driver. 1975 Chevelle Malibu Classic Coupe 350/th350 mint green 1970 C20 Suburban 350/700R4 4.10 gearing green & white 1978 Big 10 Silverado 350/th350, working ac, 2 tone blue-My summer daily driver 1983 GMC 1500 Sierra 305/SM465 2.73 rear end How to add a trip odometer to your 67-72 stock speedometer How to rebuild your Q-Jet My Truck Page My Youtube Channel Last edited by oldgold70c10; 02-28-2009 at 08:42 PM.

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COc10cst50th Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: coloradical springs Posts: 29	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? my truck is a 68, no seat belt is required for me.... hehe. on the otheehand, i will be installing full 3point seatbelts in my truck, becaus i plan on having to transport my daughter in my truck and her saftey is #1. __________________ 1968 C-10 CST LWB 50th anny work in progress. Coloradical Lowlife

03-03-2009, 09:09 AM	#25
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: Seatbelts: Why used when LMC has them? I wish someone made original looking modern shoulder/lap belts.I`d pay good money for those.I think Cheyenne Super Man does. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 03-03-2009 at 09:11 AM.

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