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12-30-2002, 12:45 AM | #1 |
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Droping a 67 short
I have 67 short step with coils front and rear. I want to slam it with new springs. what is the deal with drop shocks? Are they just like regular shocks but shorter? Can’t I just go to pep boys or something and buy some shocks that r shorter than I have now then paying extra when I buy a drop kit? Or is it even that imperative to get new shocks? thanks felas
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12-30-2002, 06:08 PM | #2 |
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you dont need new shocks, the ones you have will work fine. the aftermarket tries to sell those drop shocks but you dont need them.
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12-30-2002, 11:29 PM | #3 |
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Thanks dude anyone else have any feelings one this?
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12-31-2002, 12:03 AM | #4 |
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I disagree. If you go over 3" in front and over 4" in back , (on most vehichles) it requires drop shocks. Trust me I've dropped a ton of stuff.
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12-31-2002, 10:40 AM | #5 |
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I agree with Nsane 68, you should run shorter shocks with shorter springs.......or at the very least use shock relocator brackets on the milder drops. I have what i call (loosley) a 3/5 drop. Cut coil front, & axle flip rear, with relocated spring hangers(leaf on the longhorn). I am running Monroe gas shocks & shock relocators on both ends. I would say, much more drop than that, & shorter shocks would be manditory. As far as digging up a shorter stock shock to fit/work........I didnt have any luck. Good luck......crazyL
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12-31-2002, 11:14 AM | #6 |
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I too think one should run a shorter shock with a 4-6" drop.
I just recently discovered a KYB shock that is shorter in length. It's a Gas-adjust part #KG5409 and I'm not sure, but I think it's a front shock for our trucks. The front shocks have one eyelet that's bigger for the top bolt, so it's not a direct swap. HOWEVER, with the shock comes a shim to use this on the rear-end. Make sure you get this cylindrical shim in the bolt kit. I have a 5" drop, an ECE shock relocater kit and these shocks and I'm very happy with my ride now. I had the KYB GR-2 from ECE and the new KYB's were about 1" shorter fully compressed.
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12-31-2002, 05:03 PM | #7 |
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If you're gonna drop more than 3-4 inches, definitely use alternate shocks. You will also need to get a front end alignment afterwards. Otherwise, you will rub your tires bald really fast on the inside. Also, if you are planning more than 5-6 inches drop ijn the rear, you will need to check that your pinion angle is correct. Chances are, that you will need to correct the angle due to the change in height.
One other item would be to get new swaybar brackets for the front to help offset the drop. Early Classic sells them pretty cheap. I think that's about it. Oh, when you get shorter shocks, just make sure they have the same load rating as the original or higher. Good luck! |
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i agree on shorter shocks.......and this is why you need them. after you lower the truck and leave the stock shocks on, they are compressed and their damping abilities are almost zero. in other words, the shock is almost to the end of it's travel. shortened shocks are built to compensate for this and firm up the ride through firmer damping. good luck
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01-01-2003, 11:08 PM | #9 |
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Interesting guys. So it looks like i need to buy drop shocks but do I need to buy them with a kit or something or can i just get shorter ones at pep boys or some place like that?
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Hey I plan on dropping my 71 short bed in afew weeks and I wasent for sure on how low I want to go. What is a good drop set up for these trucks ? could anyone show me pics of there drop set ups? thank you very much
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I also think that when lowering the rear more than three inches that relocating the shocks is mandatory. They don't do much good when they are layed over.
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01-03-2003, 04:01 PM | #12 |
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for what its worth, i lowered my truck at least 6 inches in the front by using tubular control arms and lowering springs. the suspension hits the bump stops way before the stock shocks bottom out. im not sure what you want to do in the rear, but with lowering blocks in a truck with coil springs, the shocks stay in the exact same location, you just move the rear up. i lowered my truck in the rear by removing the springs and shocks and using coil overs though.
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when it comes to shocks, 'bottom out" isnt always the issue. The shocks need to be relocated, or go shorter to keep them in the center of their travel. I have custom brackets on the front of my longhorn with a cut coil drop(1 full ring). I agree, that the shocks would not bottom before the steer stop hit the corner of the crossmember, but they wouldnt work properly as a stock lengh shock with more than about 2" of drop. The rears are a different "animal".......when you drop, the shocks "lay down", & need to be stood back up to be effective. I have a good ride with a 3/5 budget drop, & stock shocks& relocators(both ends)& the rears have been moved back on the top to stand the shocks back up. With a 1 1/2" body drop on top of that, the old longhorn looks lower than a shortbased truck(just cause it so d@mn loooong).......crazyL
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stock shocks with drop springs? sounds like suicide to me. since the shocks will extend longer, there's more of a chance for the springs to come out . not a good situation when you're going fast enough and hit a bump big enough for it to droop that much.
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you dont really want to use the shocks to limit suspension travel in my opinion. they arent designed with this in mind. If your suspension rises enough to allow the springs to come out, you should limit it with a bigger bump stops under the upper control arm, straps or however you want to do it, but i dont think its a good idea to use the shocks.
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01-09-2003, 11:16 AM | #16 |
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Straps would probably be the best way to limit droop on the lower arms. I use a tall traction bar "snubber " under the top arms , &havent had any trouble with the springs bouncing loose. Even with the shocks unhooked, I can jack the truck up to let the arms droop, and the springs wont fall out of the pockets.......crazyL
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