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06-01-2009, 03:50 PM | #1 |
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1969 GMC backfires
I have a 1969 gmc c25/pick up. I put two cherrybomb glasspacks about 2 weeks ago and the truck backfires when i decelerate from high or medium rpm. It never did before. wats wrong. All it is is the glasspacks and no muffler/exahusts.
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06-01-2009, 04:18 PM | #2 |
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Re: 1969 GMC backfires
Nothing is wrong. Should sound pretty good. My 2 year old son claps and giggles when my truck back fires on deceleration.
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06-01-2009, 04:23 PM | #3 |
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Re: 1969 GMC backfires
my truck backfires when I shut it off
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06-01-2009, 04:39 PM | #4 |
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Mine does that too, pretty cool, huh! My neighbor calls it my Jake Brakes.
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06-01-2009, 05:05 PM | #5 |
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Re: 1969 GMC backfires
Your idle jets are lean. Try turning them out about 1/2 turn. I my young days we used to turn the idle jets way in to get it to do this. It sounded cool. I don't have to be cool anymore.
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06-01-2009, 08:44 PM | #6 |
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Re: 1969 GMC backfires
Sounds like an exhaust leak near the manifold - that can cause a backfire when letting off the gas quickly after accelerating...
Just had my new exhaust installed - it would backfire as loud as can be (scare the crap out of me) when I took my foot off the gas on the highway. |
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yip, mine does it when driving with open headers, it winds down real nice like 6000 rpm to 2500 or so, then crackles down to an idle. i think it sounds cool
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06-01-2009, 11:06 PM | #9 |
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Re: 1969 GMC backfires
When you close the throttle and the engine is still trying to suck throught the carb, it gets a richer mixture. This rich mixture is not needed since you are not under power so a lot of it is not burned on combustion in the cylinders and finds its way into the exhaust where it finds lots of oxygen in a free flowing exhaust. Heat from exhaust + rich mixture + Oxygen =Result....Ka Booom!
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06-01-2009, 11:25 PM | #10 |
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Yeah it's unburned fuel igniting inside your new glasspacks. What's your mpg like?
If you have a manual trans and a carb you can turn your engine off on the highway wait a few seconds and then turn the switch back on and listen to that explosion! |
06-02-2009, 12:34 AM | #11 |
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well how can i stop the backfiring i need help to stop it.plz.
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06-02-2009, 12:43 AM | #12 |
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There are alot of things to check. Your spark plugs and wires, distributor cap and rotor. Your carburetor. (what type of carb are you running?)
Do a compression test on each cylinder. If you have one that's low, it's probably not igniting the fuel like it should. |
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its a 4 barrel edelbrock carb
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06-02-2009, 01:19 AM | #14 |
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What model? How old is it? Missing any linkages? Does the choke work like it should? Do you know how to adjust it? Is it leaking gas anywhere?
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06-02-2009, 01:23 AM | #15 |
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First off, a glasspack is a muffler. And when you say no exhausts do you mean no pipes behind the glasspacks? What type of exhaust manifold/headers are you running? How far are the glasspacks from them. What size are your glasspacks/headers/pipes? Provide as much info as you can. What type of heads/intake. How old is the motor? Do you know how to do a compression test?
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06-02-2009, 06:11 PM | #16 |
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i mean there is no pipes out of the glasspack its just the glasspacks and notin else..
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06-02-2009, 08:37 PM | #17 |
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I'm sorry razr I don't have enough info to help you much. I will say this, if you put a pipe after those glasspacks they will probably stop the vacum pop.
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06-02-2009, 08:56 PM | #18 |
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Re: 1969 GMC backfires
Just fix the leak.Tighten (to recommended torque)or replace doughnut gaskets as needed.
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Before you play with the pipes, check the timing and vaccum advance. They will backfire when slowing down or pop through the pipes if the timing is late.
But I will agree that it may be going a bit lean when the throttle plate closes. My truck was doing pretty much the same thing and according to my vacuum gage the timing was late but when I swapped carbs I went up several sizes on the jets so I don't actually know which change did the most good but it doesn't pop when I slow down now. |
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Throttle plate closing will cause a rich condition...not lean. You are shuttling off the oxygen supply so it's rich...unless you have a fuel injected engine in which case the injectors are sometimes shut off which would result in a lean condition. He has a carb tho so throttle closed = rich. Also, lean would prolly not cause a backfire or "burble".
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So putting on glass-packs will change the timing and carb settings?? interesting But I would still just find and fix the leak in the exhaust.
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How do you know he has an exhaust leak?
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06-03-2009, 01:36 PM | #24 |
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how do i adjust the carb and how do i fix the exhuast leak ...wat do i have to do
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06-03-2009, 03:07 PM | #25 |
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If it wasn't backfiring with the other mufflers,forget the carb for now. Make sure the exhaust manifold is torqued to specs.(inside bolts 30,outside 20) -assuming it's a small block with stock manifolds.Then check the dougnut gasket clamps just past the manifold. I can't remember the torque for these,get a manual or just make sure they are very snug.If you see signs of exhaust blowing out of the joint and the nuts are tight,you may have a bad gasket.
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