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Pick8208 · 10-17-2009, 01:48 PM

Hey everyone, I'm new here and have a question:

I recently bought an orange and white 1972 Cheyenne Super 1/2-ton 4x4 from a friend, and I'm trying to figure out exactly what year it really is. The title lists the truck as a 1972, and the VIN supports that, but it has 1971 door panels, no phillips head screws on the upper inside of the doors, a rear-view mirror attached to the roof (rather than glued to the windshield), and a throttle arm rather than a cable going to the carburetor. I know that GM sometimes did running model year changes, but this seems a little far fetched... Could this thing really be a 1972 without all the 1972 changes?

**Stocker** · 10-17-2009, 02:25 PM

Welcome from N. Calif!

That is odd... mine is an early '72, built in August 1971, and it has all the 1972 parts. I wonder if yours is a '71 truck that was somehow retitled as a '72, including a VIN swap?

cdowns · 10-17-2009, 02:31 PM

look at the rivets holding the vin plate if they are round poprivets it's not original if theres a raised area where the mirror mounts to the header panel it's a 71cab // whith everything you describe i'm afraid you've got a frankenstein truck made up collection of random parts

Duncan and son · 10-18-2009, 12:34 PM

I agree with Stocker

71swb4x4 · 10-17-2009, 02:34 PM

Lots of things could be going on. It sounds like it was restored to me. Someone put on 67-71 doors and door panels. Maybe they swapped the cab too but transferred the VIN tag over to the new cab. If it was a 69/70 cab that would explain the throttle rod, although maybe a PO just liked the throttle rod better.
Maybe it was even a full body swap truck. They swapped a 69/70 body over, put the original VIN tag back on, and swapped a 71/72 grill back on it.
There are so many things that could have happened. Do you have any way of tracking the previous owners down?

**71blksuper4x4** · 10-17-2009, 03:22 PM

The first few trucks that were made in 1972 had 1971 cabs. I have seen proof of this because a guy I know has/had a very early 1972 truck that had the 71' cab with the windshield mirror on the roof. He looked at the serial number and it was #6 from the first 72' made at the KC plant. Your truck could have been a 72' super if it was built very very early in the run, but it sounds like someone put it together with all of the 71' parts on it. Good luck. Trevor

BADPURPLE70CHEVY · 10-17-2009, 03:39 PM

I guess vin swap. That as we all know is really easy on these trucks. I probably should not say this...

Duncan and son · 10-18-2009, 03:54 PM

Are any of the three "K" titles ie 4x4

Longhorn Man · 10-17-2009, 04:37 PM

throttle rod ended on the last 70 model truck, that makes me think a lot of part swapping has been done

Pick8208 · 10-17-2009, 05:19 PM

Well, it may be a Frankentruck... the pop rivets on the VIN plate in the door jamb are round. At least the parts swapping resulted in some good parts, like tilt, tach, side toolbox, and what's left of an a/c system.

**too much stuff** · 10-17-2009, 05:27 PM

Still sounds like a nice truck. If it is the one in your avatar, i "think" that is a 69-70 paint scheme. What does the tag inside the glovebox show?

Pick8208 · 10-17-2009, 07:53 PM

Actually, the glovebox just raises more questions. All the paint on the truck is flat and chalky, but there are some runs I know the factory would not have caused, so I'm pretty sure it was resprayed at some point. The VIN is the same on the sticker as it is on the door jamb, and all the options line up EXCEPT for A/C (which it now has, and I didn't think you could convert without an A/C cab...) and the color code, which is "565 Red/Orange Black."

I can't seem to find any info on color code 565, but whoever put this thing together must have assumed that meant orange paint, red interior pieces (like the door panels, A/C vent housings, headliner, etc), and black carpet and dash pad. Nowhere does it say "Orange & White," which is clearly is now. I wonder if it once had a black painted top?

Anyway, I was planning on painting it next summer, after I pull out all the dents and replace the driver's fender and the toolbox door (scored one this weekend, not rusty, for $50!). I've always liked the white top & white side stripe down the middle, so maybe I'll just go that route. At least I won't feel guilty for changing something that was "original."

**70cst** · 10-17-2009, 11:57 PM

All in all it still sounds like you have a solid truck. It isn't unusual to get a truck that has had some mods done...Like you said you have the right parts to make your truck a nice ride.

PanelDeland · 10-18-2009, 09:16 AM

After 40+ years there are few that haven't been "molested" in some way.From your description I would guess it has been redone at some point in it's life and they used what they could find that was in good shape to do so.

toddtheodd · 10-18-2009, 10:10 AM

They probably did a cab swap to put A/C in it...
I've thought of doing that with my 72... so it's REALLY possible.

Longhorn Man · 10-18-2009, 12:54 PM

that 2 tone was availble through 72

**special-K** · 10-18-2009, 02:28 PM

That`s a sixtyseventytwo.

Longhorn Man · 10-18-2009, 04:37 PM

you wanting to buy something from a staff member as a non subscribed member, or just curiouse?

BADPURPLE70CHEVY · 10-18-2009, 04:38 PM

Sorry all 2wds

Pick8208 · 10-21-2009, 01:37 PM

Figured it out! One of the previous owners, who runs a 67-72 parts company, saw my post and gave me a call. It's a ’70 cab with a/c, and it did have a black top. I'm glad it's now orange & white...

FRENCHBLUE72 · 10-21-2009, 02:32 PM

Cool on the new info and congrats on the new ride..

10-17-2009, 01:48 PM	#1
Pick8208 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 36	1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? Hey everyone, I'm new here and have a question: I recently bought an orange and white 1972 Cheyenne Super 1/2-ton 4x4 from a friend, and I'm trying to figure out exactly what year it really is. The title lists the truck as a 1972, and the VIN supports that, but it has 1971 door panels, no phillips head screws on the upper inside of the doors, a rear-view mirror attached to the roof (rather than glued to the windshield), and a throttle arm rather than a cable going to the carburetor. I know that GM sometimes did running model year changes, but this seems a little far fetched... Could this thing really be a 1972 without all the 1972 changes?

10-17-2009, 02:25 PM	#2
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,722	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? Welcome from N. Calif! That is odd... mine is an early '72, built in August 1971, and it has all the 1972 parts. I wonder if yours is a '71 truck that was somehow retitled as a '72, including a VIN swap? __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

10-17-2009, 02:31 PM	#3
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? look at the rivets holding the vin plate if they are round poprivets it's not original if theres a raised area where the mirror mounts to the header panel it's a 71cab // whith everything you describe i'm afraid you've got a frankenstein truck made up collection of random parts __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

10-18-2009, 12:34 PM	#4
Duncan and son Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 1,049	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? I agree with Stocker

10-17-2009, 02:34 PM	#5
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? Lots of things could be going on. It sounds like it was restored to me. Someone put on 67-71 doors and door panels. Maybe they swapped the cab too but transferred the VIN tag over to the new cab. If it was a 69/70 cab that would explain the throttle rod, although maybe a PO just liked the throttle rod better. Maybe it was even a full body swap truck. They swapped a 69/70 body over, put the original VIN tag back on, and swapped a 71/72 grill back on it. There are so many things that could have happened. Do you have any way of tracking the previous owners down? __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

10-17-2009, 03:22 PM	#6
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,156	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? The first few trucks that were made in 1972 had 1971 cabs. I have seen proof of this because a guy I know has/had a very early 1972 truck that had the 71' cab with the windshield mirror on the roof. He looked at the serial number and it was #6 from the first 72' made at the KC plant. Your truck could have been a 72' super if it was built very very early in the run, but it sounds like someone put it together with all of the 71' parts on it. Good luck. Trevor __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

10-17-2009, 03:39 PM	#7
BADPURPLE70CHEVY 406 Powered Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: waynesville,n.c. Posts: 877	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? I guess vin swap. That as we all know is really easy on these trucks. I probably should not say this... __________________ 70 GMC 68 c10 2002 silverado 72 4x4 Last edited by special-K; 10-19-2009 at 05:55 AM. Reason: I think you`re right.:cool:

10-18-2009, 03:54 PM	#8
Duncan and son Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 1,049	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? Are any of the three "K" titles ie 4x4

10-17-2009, 04:37 PM	#9
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? throttle rod ended on the last 70 model truck, that makes me think a lot of part swapping has been done

10-17-2009, 05:19 PM	#10
Pick8208 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 36	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? Well, it may be a Frankentruck... the pop rivets on the VIN plate in the door jamb are round. At least the parts swapping resulted in some good parts, like tilt, tach, side toolbox, and what's left of an a/c system. Last edited by Pick8208; 10-17-2009 at 05:29 PM.

10-17-2009, 05:27 PM	#11
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,787	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? Still sounds like a nice truck. If it is the one in your avatar, i "think" that is a 69-70 paint scheme. What does the tag inside the glovebox show? __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

10-17-2009, 07:53 PM	#12
Pick8208 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 36	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? Actually, the glovebox just raises more questions. All the paint on the truck is flat and chalky, but there are some runs I know the factory would not have caused, so I'm pretty sure it was resprayed at some point. The VIN is the same on the sticker as it is on the door jamb, and all the options line up EXCEPT for A/C (which it now has, and I didn't think you could convert without an A/C cab...) and the color code, which is "565 Red/Orange Black." I can't seem to find any info on color code 565, but whoever put this thing together must have assumed that meant orange paint, red interior pieces (like the door panels, A/C vent housings, headliner, etc), and black carpet and dash pad. Nowhere does it say "Orange & White," which is clearly is now. I wonder if it once had a black painted top? Anyway, I was planning on painting it next summer, after I pull out all the dents and replace the driver's fender and the toolbox door (scored one this weekend, not rusty, for $50!). I've always liked the white top & white side stripe down the middle, so maybe I'll just go that route. At least I won't feel guilty for changing something that was "original." Last edited by Pick8208; 10-17-2009 at 07:57 PM.

10-17-2009, 11:57 PM	#13
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? All in all it still sounds like you have a solid truck. It isn't unusual to get a truck that has had some mods done...Like you said you have the right parts to make your truck a nice ride. __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

10-18-2009, 09:16 AM	#14
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10-18-2009, 10:10 AM	#15
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10-18-2009, 12:54 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? that 2 tone was availble through 72

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10-21-2009, 01:37 PM	#20
Pick8208 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Beaverton, OR Posts: 36	Re: 1972 Cheyenne Super with 1971 parts? Figured it out! One of the previous owners, who runs a 67-72 parts company, saw my post and gave me a call. It's a ’70 cab with a/c, and it did have a black top. I'm glad it's now orange & white... Last edited by Pick8208; 10-21-2009 at 01:41 PM.

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