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Old 10-28-2009, 08:56 PM   #1
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Truck autocross at goodguys

Check this out. I was reading news on bangshift.com that goodguys is opening up a class in the autocross for trucks. Anyone got a truck that is pretty swift in the twisties?

http://www.bangshift.com/blog/New-Tr...Autocross.html
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:21 AM   #2
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

Not yet....
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:09 PM   #3
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

I'm working on one as we speak....
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:49 PM   #4
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

Cool, I always though it would be cool to build one. Money and time are not on my side as of right now, so my project is going a different direction, It would be neat to see how the big behemoths fair on the track though.
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:05 PM   #5
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

so what do you think the list of mods would be to build one?

would a big block be out of the question strictly based on the weight?
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Old 10-29-2009, 08:56 PM   #6
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i don't know about getting on that sight without explaning to my wife what it is first
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:31 AM   #7
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so what do you think the list of mods would be to build one?

would a big block be out of the question strictly based on the weight?
I sure hope not, because I'm building an aluminum headed 468 right now for my '69 - I'd hate to think I just wasted nearly 6k on a motor! I'm not building a strictly 'autocross' truck, but I am building a serious Pro Touring truck that will back up the look 100%. Tubular CPP a-arms, boxed rear trailing arms, 4/6 drop, f/r sway bars, 4 wheel discs, all Poly bushings, 550hp and a Tremec TKO-500 trans should be a decent start (I hope!!) I plan on bracing up the frame too, but I've got some research to do before I tackle that job. I'm just ready to get all this stuff off my garage floor and onto the truck!
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:32 PM   #8
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

These guys have been doing something similar for several years now:

http://www.thedieselpage.com/readers/grenwood.htm

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Old 10-31-2009, 12:58 PM   #9
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

Do any of you own "Chassis Enginering' by Herb Adams? Amazon.com: Chassis Engineering HP1055... Amazon.com: Chassis Engineering HP1055...
I would suggest purchasing it before going too far in to your build. A ton of great info.

Also, have any of you looked in to some of the C5 front suspensions that are available at a "decent" price? Another thought would be the newer body style truck I think come with what looks like a decent set of control arms from a glance. I haven't totaly inspected them though.

I think there is more weight in the spindles and brakes than a control arm swap. Plus probably better money spent to slow these heavy beasts down.

Doing a 3 link in the back of a truck would be super simple..
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

Do any of you own "Chassis Enginering' by Herb Adams? Amazon.com: Chassis Engineering HP1055... Amazon.com: Chassis Engineering HP1055...
I would suggest purchasing it before going too far in to your build. A ton of great info.

Also, have any of you looked in to some of the C5 front suspensions that are available at a "decent" price? I'm talking foinf and buying the parts and fabing it up on your frame. Another thought would be the newer body style truck I think come with what looks like a decent set of control arms from a glance. I haven't totaly inspected them though.

I think there is more weight in the spindles and brakes than a control arm swap. Plus probably better money spent to slow these heavy beasts down.

Doing a 3 link in the back of a truck would be super simple..
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Old 10-31-2009, 08:52 PM   #11
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

I've got a copy of that book. There is so much info in it that it hurts your head. I just wanna have fun with my truck and keep the cost down as much as possible. I think that you can do alot with a little ingenuity.
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Old 10-31-2009, 10:39 PM   #12
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

I mainly went with the CPP tubulars to keep my suspension geometry right after the drop and for the 'just because' factor. I've read about some people using C4/5 stuff, but that really never appealed to me much, mostly the cost and the time trying to adapt it all and make it work. Not to mention some of the Corvette stuff looks a little puny compared to most of the things used on a truck. I'm not trying to fool myself into building a something unrealistic, I just want to make my '69 handle better than any 'street' truck has a right to. I mean, here in Arkansas there are some nice twisties, so if some douche in a Porsche Boxster (or whatever douchebags drive) wants to try me, I'll be able to give him a good view of my tailgate.

I will definitely look into getting that book, I'm always down for more info!
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:09 AM   #13
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Do any of you own "Chassis Enginering' by Herb Adams? Amazon.com: Chassis Engineering HP1055 (0075478010554): Herb Adams: Books

I would suggest purchasing it before going too far in to your build. A ton of great info.

Also, have any of you looked in to some of the C5 front suspensions that are available at a "decent" price? I'm talking foinf and buying the parts and fabing it up on your frame. Another thought would be the newer body style truck I think come with what looks like a decent set of control arms from a glance. I haven't totaly inspected them though.

I think there is more weight in the spindles and brakes than a control arm swap. Plus probably better money spent to slow these heavy beasts down.

Doing a 3 link in the back of a truck would be super simple..
Amazing book, I've got a copy of it at home. The fiance's dad even stole it to try and get an edge on the guys he race's rc cars with, and understand more of what he's building. I still won't loan it to him though, I'm one of the guys he's racing.

This would be a very fun truck to build, someday after college hopefully I'll get to build my c10 as one, sadly its sitting in a million pieces at home while I sit 5 hours away at college.

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Old 11-04-2009, 08:16 AM   #14
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Re: Truck autocross at goodguys

I didnt score anything at the swap meet for making the truck handle. I think if i was going to use some circle track stuff, i better do more reaserch on it first. There were lots of tubular sway bars and arm setups there so that might be a possibility to use---depends on the cost vs just buying a bar that fits from a vendor---but the circle track stuff can be swapped very easy if you need more or less.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:20 AM   #15
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383Ram - I'll get a pic of my front sway bar for you tonight. It's buried underneath a bunch of boxes of parts, but I'll get it out and take a few pics if you still want them.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:05 PM   #16
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Pictures always welcomed, appreciate it if you could do that.
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:47 AM   #17
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that would be so damn fun.... showing something some tailgate in the twisties would make my day
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:45 AM   #18
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I am on the same page as tymbom. I want to have a little fun with economical costs involved. I don't have that particular book, but for now i am going to do what i know works. I have a long ways to go to get there so this will be the start.

I just found a set of 15x8 wheels i forgot i had---but i need to find what is cheaper to do as they are not the right bolt pattern (Dodge switched bolt patterns in the 80's). So i need to find if its cheaper to buy 4 new wheels, or 2 wheels, some rotors, drums, and a set of earlier used axles. I guess it depends on what i can get used.

I am off to a swap meet today---which is mostly circle track guys, we'll see what i can score.
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