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CHEESE · 12-16-2009, 12:30 PM

I was in the process to find a drivetrain for my dually, when i stumbled across a under 100k mile 7.3 powerstroke and new trans, for a not so expensive price. would it be wrong? has anyone heard of this conversion going down? I am hoping for some insite from you fellas! Let me know what yall think!!

68Timber · 12-16-2009, 01:07 PM

I had an 02 Super Duty with that engine and loved it. If you like the idea, I'd do it just to be different from the Cummins and Duramax swaps.

74 C-30 · 12-16-2009, 03:14 PM

the 7.3 is an amazing motor, and at 100k its just broken in. i've seen 10 year old trucks pushing 500k with out a rebuild. its blasphemy to the chevy world but it also would be unique

Pyrotechnic · 12-16-2009, 03:20 PM

It's not really a Ford motor, it's an International T444E that was in everything from school buses to ambulances so I wouldn't see a problem with it.

CHEESE · 12-16-2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyrotechnic

It's not really a Ford motor, it's an International T444E that was in everything from school buses to ambulances so I wouldn't see a problem with it.

thats what i keep telling myself!!

CHEESE · 12-16-2009, 03:21 PM

Since I work at a FORD house i can get parts at a good price, but does that out-way putting a ford in a chevy???

ghettoluxury · 12-16-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEESE

Since I work at a FORD house i can get parts at a good price, but does that out-way putting a ford in a chevy???

No it doesn't this is something that would get you shot in my area.

If you must do it don't tell anyone.

Damien · 12-16-2009, 03:45 PM

Just make sure it doesn't have a blue oval on it. The 7.3 is a strong engine. Its one of the once in a while ford things, like the flat head V8 or the 9".

joe231 · 12-16-2009, 04:48 PM

DO IT!!!

jchav62 · 12-16-2009, 05:06 PM

I agree... Dare to be different. Go for it! It's not really a F@rd engine anyway, like already said... so that makes it a little easier to digest.

Now if you were on here talking about putting in a 302, or a 351, or a 460, then things would be a little different...

Chevy only for me...

CHEESE · 12-16-2009, 05:34 PM

It might get me shot here! Lol

SCOTTROD · 12-16-2009, 05:41 PM

Wrong....Cheese.....Wrong!!!

paps69 · 12-16-2009, 05:59 PM

No one has a problem with a Cummins in a Chevy. The only thing Ford about the 7.3 is the name Powerstroke. So drop it in and tell everyone it's a Navistar 7.3!!!!

Pyrotechnic · 12-16-2009, 06:20 PM

Well if it's an automatic and you use the Ford auto...

...but if the whole drivetrain is complete and very cheap, no one can really say much if you used what you had access to for cheap.

If it's a ZF 6 speed, well then you really got yourself a deal. Chevy's came with those transmissions too.

CHEESE · 12-16-2009, 06:37 PM

I cant run the ford trans. because it has to retain the factory rear-end and cluster for electric reasons. i called Destroked, and they can make me an adapter for a 7.3 to turbo400. it a chunk of change but it might be nice!! im gonna have to think this over!

68Timber · 12-16-2009, 07:04 PM

It would be fun and a terribly insane combo. Before ULSD was forced on us mine would get low 20's on the hwy and it would throw the truck and anything I was hauling if pressed. But the Duramax and Cummins will do the same. I just miss this truck!

Yeah, I know...

3r!c84 · 12-23-2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHEESE

I cant run the ford trans. because it has to retain the factory rear-end and cluster for electric reasons. i called Destroked, and they can make me an adapter for a 7.3 to turbo400. it a chunk of change but it might be nice!! im gonna have to think this over!

what no over drive on that motor is gona hurt it pushing them higher revs? right? idk

i would keep the f@rd auto that comes with it

joe231 · 12-16-2009, 07:02 PM

DO IT!!!

Slick17 · 12-23-2009, 04:31 PM

I would love to see this. If I had the cash I'd look into doing something like this.

smashingchuck · 12-23-2009, 10:21 PM

Why not just run the whole drive line rear end and all. I gotta think the powerstroke is going to eat any automatic you put behind it other than the one that was enginered for it. It would also make tuning a whole lot easier, and the only thing you might have to modify is the axle... which you are probably going to have to do any way for the wheels you plan on running.

Scootin 81 C20 · 12-23-2009, 10:39 PM

I say run it. The worse thing that can happen is you change your mind.

68Timber · 12-23-2009, 10:51 PM

I can't speak to what the 7.3 can hold up to regarding revs, but I can tell you what it behaved like in my Super Duty. As far as economy goes, the engine likes to run at 2K or less. You could push it a little over 2K cruising down the hwy but mpg fell off quickly and severely over 2K.

The engine pulls really hard between 2K and 3K and will make a F-250 CC Super Duty a stop light king, relatively speaking. That's where the boost is on and it delivers. But I'd hate to see the engine spin at those revs going down the hwy.

It may do that and hold together forever, I don't know. But it won't run at those revs and deliver any reasonable mpg.

Just food for thought.

tvblazer78 · 12-24-2009, 10:15 AM

Just put it all in! I think that would be very cool!

grinch4om · 12-24-2009, 10:33 AM

put it all in from the radiator to the rear end cover...I saw a 460 in a 55 chevy way back when I was dragging 5.0's. It was neat although weird at the same time. I asked the guy why and he said he wrecked his ford race car, had this 55 body, threw it together and kept racing. People have been putting chevy motors in other bodies for decades. You do what you want to do, you're building it for you, not us

rare86 · 12-24-2009, 11:02 AM

This is simple my friend, you need to quit calling it a 7.3 Powerstroke ( which is the best deisel Ford ever put in their trucks) and start calling it a International T444E , or just T444E. Very few would know the difference and it would keep you from being shot. I have a buddy that has a 2000 crewcab w/ 77.3 and it has 500,000 miles with very few problems. (CHanged water pump, idler pulley etc, normal wear) GO for it, its not Ford, its International.

12-16-2009, 12:30 PM	#1
CHEESE The Cheesiest Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SHALLOWATER, TX. Posts: 986	Would it be wrong??? I was in the process to find a drivetrain for my dually, when i stumbled across a under 100k mile 7.3 powerstroke and new trans, for a not so expensive price. would it be wrong? has anyone heard of this conversion going down? I am hoping for some insite from you fellas! Let me know what yall think!!

12-16-2009, 01:07 PM	#2
68Timber I know the pieces fit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MONTGOMERY, AL Posts: 5,523	Re: Would it be wrong??? I had an 02 Super Duty with that engine and loved it. If you like the idea, I'd do it just to be different from the Cummins and Duramax swaps. __________________ John 79 2wd Blazer (Bruiser) 85 M1009 Blazer (Sarge) build 74 Honda Z50 build

12-16-2009, 03:14 PM	#3
74 C-30 Dually Pride Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NH Posts: 540	Re: Would it be wrong??? the 7.3 is an amazing motor, and at 100k its just broken in. i've seen 10 year old trucks pushing 500k with out a rebuild. its blasphemy to the chevy world but it also would be unique __________________ If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand. '74 Chevy C-30 350/4 speed/dually '94 Ford Ranger

12-16-2009, 03:20 PM	#4
Pyrotechnic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,930	Re: Would it be wrong??? It's not really a Ford motor, it's an International T444E that was in everything from school buses to ambulances so I wouldn't see a problem with it. __________________ 1977 GMC Sierra Grande

12-16-2009, 03:21 PM	#6
CHEESE The Cheesiest Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SHALLOWATER, TX. Posts: 986	Re: Would it be wrong??? Since I work at a FORD house i can get parts at a good price, but does that out-way putting a ford in a chevy???

12-16-2009, 03:45 PM	#8
Damien Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Farmington, MN Posts: 928	Re: Would it be wrong??? Just make sure it doesn't have a blue oval on it. The 7.3 is a strong engine. Its one of the once in a while ford things, like the flat head V8 or the 9". __________________ I can still count my vehicles on two... wait three hands.

12-16-2009, 04:48 PM	#9
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Would it be wrong??? DO IT!!! __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*

12-16-2009, 05:06 PM	#10
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: Would it be wrong??? I agree... Dare to be different. Go for it! It's not really a F@rd engine anyway, like already said... so that makes it a little easier to digest. Now if you were on here talking about putting in a 302, or a 351, or a 460, then things would be a little different... Chevy only for me... __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4 Last edited by jchav62; 12-16-2009 at 05:06 PM.

12-16-2009, 05:34 PM	#11
CHEESE The Cheesiest Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SHALLOWATER, TX. Posts: 986	Re: Would it be wrong??? It might get me shot here! Lol

12-16-2009, 05:41 PM	#12
SCOTTROD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: lubbock, tx Posts: 69	Re: Would it be wrong??? Wrong....Cheese.....Wrong!!!

12-16-2009, 05:59 PM	#13
paps69 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Guston, Ky Posts: 79	Re: Would it be wrong??? No one has a problem with a Cummins in a Chevy. The only thing Ford about the 7.3 is the name Powerstroke. So drop it in and tell everyone it's a Navistar 7.3!!!! __________________ IF A FELLA DOESN'T USE HIS HEAD....... HE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE TWO BUTTS 1969 C10 LWB "Granpaps Truck" (Project) 2000 K3500 Crew Cab LWB (Farm Truck) 2007 Chevy 1500 Crew Cab 5.3 (Daily Driver)

12-16-2009, 06:20 PM	#14
Pyrotechnic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,930	Re: Would it be wrong??? Well if it's an automatic and you use the Ford auto......but if the whole drivetrain is complete and very cheap, no one can really say much if you used what you had access to for cheap. If it's a ZF 6 speed, well then you really got yourself a deal. Chevy's came with those transmissions too. __________________ 1977 GMC Sierra Grande

12-16-2009, 06:37 PM	#15
CHEESE The Cheesiest Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SHALLOWATER, TX. Posts: 986	Re: Would it be wrong??? I cant run the ford trans. because it has to retain the factory rear-end and cluster for electric reasons. i called Destroked, and they can make me an adapter for a 7.3 to turbo400. it a chunk of change but it might be nice!! im gonna have to think this over!

12-16-2009, 07:04 PM	#16
68Timber I know the pieces fit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MONTGOMERY, AL Posts: 5,523	Re: Would it be wrong??? It would be fun and a terribly insane combo. Before ULSD was forced on us mine would get low 20's on the hwy and it would throw the truck and anything I was hauling if pressed. But the Duramax and Cummins will do the same. I just miss this truck! Yeah, I know... __________________ John 79 2wd Blazer (Bruiser) 85 M1009 Blazer (Sarge) build 74 Honda Z50 build

12-16-2009, 07:02 PM	#18
joe231 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 13,821	Re: Would it be wrong??? DO IT!!! __________________ *CHEVY ONLY*



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12-23-2009, 04:31 PM	#19
Slick17 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 158	Re: Would it be wrong??? I would love to see this. If I had the cash I'd look into doing something like this.

12-23-2009, 10:21 PM	#20
smashingchuck It'd be alot cooler if you did Join Date: May 2003 Location: Three Rivers, MI Posts: 2,345	Re: Would it be wrong??? Why not just run the whole drive line rear end and all. I gotta think the powerstroke is going to eat any automatic you put behind it other than the one that was enginered for it. It would also make tuning a whole lot easier, and the only thing you might have to modify is the axle... which you are probably going to have to do any way for the wheels you plan on running. __________________ 78 Build Thread 4Runner Build

12-23-2009, 10:39 PM	#21
Scootin 81 C20 3/4 Ton Rodder Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manlius, IL Posts: 1,146	Re: Would it be wrong??? I say run it. The worse thing that can happen is you change your mind. __________________ 1981 Chevy Scottsdale C20 "Orange Crush": SOLD 1989 Chevy Silverado K2500: All Stock (For Now), 350 TBI/700R4. DD/Light Duty Toy.

12-23-2009, 10:51 PM	#22
68Timber I know the pieces fit Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MONTGOMERY, AL Posts: 5,523	Re: Would it be wrong??? I can't speak to what the 7.3 can hold up to regarding revs, but I can tell you what it behaved like in my Super Duty. As far as economy goes, the engine likes to run at 2K or less. You could push it a little over 2K cruising down the hwy but mpg fell off quickly and severely over 2K. The engine pulls really hard between 2K and 3K and will make a F-250 CC Super Duty a stop light king, relatively speaking. That's where the boost is on and it delivers. But I'd hate to see the engine spin at those revs going down the hwy. It may do that and hold together forever, I don't know. But it won't run at those revs and deliver any reasonable mpg. Just food for thought. __________________ John 79 2wd Blazer (Bruiser) 85 M1009 Blazer (Sarge) build 74 Honda Z50 build

12-24-2009, 10:15 AM	#23
tvblazer78 Low & Fast! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,110	Re: Would it be wrong??? Just put it all in! I think that would be very cool! __________________ Southeastern Mini Truckin' Nationals April 27 and 28, 2012

12-24-2009, 10:33 AM	#24
grinch4om dang its hot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: frankfort kentucky Posts: 1,349	Re: Would it be wrong??? put it all in from the radiator to the rear end cover...I saw a 460 in a 55 chevy way back when I was dragging 5.0's. It was neat although weird at the same time. I asked the guy why and he said he wrecked his ford race car, had this 55 body, threw it together and kept racing. People have been putting chevy motors in other bodies for decades. You do what you want to do, you're building it for you, not us

12-24-2009, 11:02 AM	#25
rare86 Extended cab fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gardendale, Tx Posts: 314	Re: Would it be wrong??? This is simple my friend, you need to quit calling it a 7.3 Powerstroke ( which is the best deisel Ford ever put in their trucks) and start calling it a International T444E , or just T444E. Very few would know the difference and it would keep you from being shot. I have a buddy that has a 2000 crewcab w/ 77.3 and it has 500,000 miles with very few problems. (CHanged water pump, idler pulley etc, normal wear) GO for it, its not Ford, its International. __________________ If it has a motor, it has my attention. Last edited by rare86; 12-24-2009 at 11:04 AM.

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