are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**americanmusc1e** · 01-24-2010, 07:36 PM

I'm doing a poll to see how many people that did a 700r4 or 2004r swap and are happy with the performance and reliability of their transmission.

please comment on where you got your transmission from and what kind of engine and gears you have. and how much (if any) of a mileage increase you saw.

I also want to know about you folks with Gear Vendors and Manual Valvebody 4L80E's

please post your opinion.

WyoGMC · 01-24-2010, 07:57 PM

I have one in a 91 and am happy with it. I know it isn't quite what you were asking. When I bought the truck 6 years ago it had eaten 3 transmissions. I bought mine from some outfit in Salt Lake that specializes in trannies and had them build it up a little bit. Granted I only put 20k on this one but it has lasted longer than the other 3 that took a crap. SorryI can't remember who the company was though or any of the specs.

cparman · 01-24-2010, 08:21 PM

I have done several 700/200 swaps, and my customers, and I love them. I currently have a 700 in my 72 2wd Blazer, and am very happy. I have a couple of 200 cores at my shop, and if possible be selective what 200 core you get. The valve body calibrations on some 200 will make it a bit tough to get nice firm crisp shifts. I do not have it in front of me but seems like if the 200's have a 3 letter calibration code on the tag attached to the right side near the rear of the trans they seem to be able to be firmed up easier. The BRF code was used in turbo Buicks, and are near impossible to find. I have a CZF from a Monte Carlo that will probably find it's way into my 69. The spacing in gear ratio's is more even on the 200's .

EyeH8the24 · 01-24-2010, 08:27 PM

i have a 700r in my 69 behind a 383 with 373 gears ..i love it ...first gear smokes the tires and i cruise 65 mph around 2k rpm...i had a glide in my 71 while it was fun it wasnt practical ....

wwotr · 01-24-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeH8the24

i have a 700r in my 69 behind a 383 with 373 gears ..i love it ...first gear smokes the tires and i cruise 65 mph around 2k rpm...i had a glide in my 71 while it was fun it wasnt practical ....

2300 RPM at 60 MPH with 3:73 and a Turbo 350

**americanmusc1e** · 01-24-2010, 09:24 PM

I'm surprised at the number of people who don't like their 700r4, two others besides me.

wwotr · 01-24-2010, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by americanmusc1e

I'm surprised at the number of people who don't like their 700r4, two others besides me.

Yea me too!
If you don't like your 700R4, then by ALL MEANS, please let ME have it and as soon as I do the Swap, you can have my Turbo 350.

(ungrateful little S*H*I*T*S)!

67ChevyRedneck · 01-24-2010, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by americanmusc1e

I'm surprised at the number of people who don't like their 700r4, two others besides me.

Why is that?

In my opinion, the #1 killer of these transmissions is the rebuilder or the installer. When rebuilt and installed properly, they're a great tranmission for street use. A lot of people don't understand how important the TV cable set up is.

350/700R/3.73. Been running a 700R since 2003. 12mpg city and 16 highway with 65mph coasting along at about 2000rpm. It has a low 1st gear for fun launches too. I'm one happy camper.

**americanmusc1e** · 01-24-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

In my opinion, the #1 killer of these transmissions is the rebuilder or the installer.

I've gotta agree with you there, I hate mine, but I got ahold of a bad rebuilder

powell72 · 01-24-2010, 10:40 PM

My 700 is great, it's from Jasper. Not even a hint of a leak from anywhere after 5 years and it shifts great. I have the BowtieOverdrives TVMADEEZ kit and their lockup kit. 70mph at 2500rpm.

roughedup72 · 01-24-2010, 10:57 PM

I've got a 700r4 and am happy with it. I bought it from a guy who rebuilt it,about 12 months later it took a crap on me. call the guy who had rebuilt it and he had recently passed away. He had been rebuilding them for along time and had built many of good ones. I think mine was one of the last he built. I had a friend that has been trans specialist for about 30 years and took it to him to get rebuilt. he showed me what went wrong and its been doing fine every since. It shifts good and strong and almost everytime it hits second I get this funny barking noise from the tires. I'm running a 350/4Barrel with 3:73 posi trac rear and 285/70/15 bfg's. rpms are right at 2300 at 65-70 mph and i get about 15-16mpg.

Indyuke · 01-25-2010, 12:18 AM

Got mine off craigslist for $130. With the driveline rebuild and the TV cable kit, the entire cost of the swap from turbo 350 to the 700 cost around $400. I've got about 27k miles on it and I'm happy so far.

Mondo · 01-25-2010, 08:14 PM

The only problem I have with my 200r is it stays in lock up too long and lugs the motor. I've taken it to a couple places but I'm not satisfied. Was thinking if they could make a switch (I have the brake switch) so I can keep it out of lock up around town.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-25-2010, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondo

The only problem I have with my 200r is it stays in lock up too long and lugs the motor. I've taken it to a couple places but I'm not satisfied. Was thinking if they could make a switch (I have the brake switch) so I can keep it out of lock up around town.

This is "common." The 200 and 700's like to shift into OD and lock up at 40-45mph under light acceleration. When hooked up to a factory motor/computer in the vehicle it was meant to be in, it's OK. Even my Z71 shifts into OD at 45mph. In a non stock application, that's not always a good thing. What I did was put a Lokar floor shift in my truck. It easily "toggles" between OD and 3rd by pushing up or back on the shifter. Long story short, when I drive under 50mph I drop the truck into 3rd and leave it until I hit 50 or so. Below 50, I usually just leave the truck in 3rd.

**americanmusc1e** · 01-26-2010, 11:16 AM

it looks like the 200-4r is the way to go, nobody dislikes theirs.

**mikey531** · 01-25-2010, 08:22 PM

I guess this question will never have a 100% consensus, I have a 2004R and 7004R sitting on the floor in my garage. I have a turbo 350 in my truck with 4.10 gears 2800 at 55mph. I just don't know which way to go.

**yote1234** · 01-25-2010, 08:31 PM

im also watching this as i might want to upgrade... ...

big_al_71 · 01-25-2010, 09:06 PM

I have had at least three trucks with 700r4 and I have to agree that in most cases is the builder who screws them up.....Even though in my 71 I went with a fully built th350 and have no regrets as gas mileage was not in my priorities....

wwotr · 01-25-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by big_al_71

I have had at least three trucks with 700r4 and I have to agree that in most cases is the builder who screws them up.....Even though in my 71 I went with a fully built th350 and have no regrets as gas mileage was not in my priorities....

OK, Now you guys are pissing me off!

I've got a Turbo 350 in my 72 GMC with a newer 350 from a 94 GMC (Carburated,Serpentine Belt).
Now I've asked this question MANY times before, but this Thread is actually providing me with some direction/answers!
I CAN tell you this, I'm NOT interested in Gas Mileage.

The (2) things I want are:
1) Reduced RPM's at Cruising Speed 55-70 MPH.

2) When I'm going over 55 MPH and I "punch" the Gas,
I want my Turbo 350 to Kick Down/Down Shift/Passing Gear
(whatever anyone wants to call it).

I thought I was S.O.L. as far as achieving =the two points referenced above, with my Turbo 350.
Currently running 3:73 Gears with 15" Tires.
So that is why I was looking into the 200R/7004R Question/swap.

Future plans (6 Months-Year) include:
Going to 20" in Back/18" in Front.
Will definitely be going with a 383 Stroker, (Minimum 400HP)

So with those things in the Mix, I've got an Expert High Performance Tranny Builder, and I believe the 700R4/22R are a "Stronger Built" Tranny, then a Turbo 350....yes???

If that's true, I would GO that route, but it would still be nice to achieve Numbers 1 & 2 (from above) while I have my Stock Turbo 350 in there.

Anyone???????????????????????

big_al_71 · 01-26-2010, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwotr

OK, Now you guys are pissing me off!

I've got a Turbo 350 in my 72 GMC with a newer 350 from a 94 GMC (Carburated,Serpentine Belt).

I have a sbc 406 with a th350 both fully built, gas mileage is non existent 7-8 mpg at best
I CAN tell you this, I'm NOT interested in Gas Mileage.

The (2) things I want are:
1) Reduced RPM's at Cruising Speed 55-70 MPH.
That is not going to happen with 15 inch tires you may gain some with 20's

2) When I'm going over 55 MPH and I "punch" the Gas,
I want my Turbo 350 to Kick Down/Down Shift/Passing Gear
(whatever anyone wants to call it).
I do have have 18's and 20's in the rear I do have 373's I also have a motor with right around 420 to the wheels and if I stomp on my truck at 50 mph it does shift down and you have to hang on for life....My tranny is very far from stock it was fully built to take the horsepower

Anyone???????????????????????

...

weircc · 01-26-2010, 12:46 PM

bump i wanna know myself

shopking72 · 01-26-2010, 03:14 PM

Have a 700R4 in my 72 C10. The kid I bought it from had the TV cable hooked up but I thought the trans was shifting way too quick, and sure enough it wasnt adjusted right. It is now

I only put mine into OD on the highway. Yes I am happy with it so far.

djw32 · 01-26-2010, 04:27 PM

I have a SW performance 700R4 in my 70 c-10. Steve knows what he is doing, and I got it for a great price. Give steve a call (714) 843-3237.

View Poll Results: what is your OD opinion???
700r4---satisfied	36	65.45%
700r4---neither like or dislike	1	1.82%
700r4---hate it	5	9.09%
2004r---satisfied	9	16.36%
2004r---neither like or dislike	4	7.27%
2004r---hate it	0	0%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

01-24-2010, 07:57 PM	#2
WyoGMC Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Riverton WY Posts: 32	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? I have one in a 91 and am happy with it. I know it isn't quite what you were asking. When I bought the truck 6 years ago it had eaten 3 transmissions. I bought mine from some outfit in Salt Lake that specializes in trannies and had them build it up a little bit. Granted I only put 20k on this one but it has lasted longer than the other 3 that took a crap. SorryI can't remember who the company was though or any of the specs. __________________ 68 GMC 91 GMC ext cab 05 Dodge Ram SRT-10........gone but not forgotten

01-24-2010, 08:21 PM	#3
cparman sharp as a marble Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: atlantic beach,florida Posts: 1,082	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? I have done several 700/200 swaps, and my customers, and I love them. I currently have a 700 in my 72 2wd Blazer, and am very happy. I have a couple of 200 cores at my shop, and if possible be selective what 200 core you get. The valve body calibrations on some 200 will make it a bit tough to get nice firm crisp shifts. I do not have it in front of me but seems like if the 200's have a 3 letter calibration code on the tag attached to the right side near the rear of the trans they seem to be able to be firmed up easier. The BRF code was used in turbo Buicks, and are near impossible to find. I have a CZF from a Monte Carlo that will probably find it's way into my 69. The spacing in gear ratio's is more even on the 200's .

01-24-2010, 08:27 PM	#4
EyeH8the24 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: beulah,alabama Posts: 1,075	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? i have a 700r in my 69 behind a 383 with 373 gears ..i love it ...first gear smokes the tires and i cruise 65 mph around 2k rpm...i had a glide in my 71 while it was fun it wasnt practical .... __________________ DOH !!!!!!! Last edited by EyeH8the24; 01-24-2010 at 08:30 PM.

01-24-2010, 09:24 PM	#6
americanmusc1e Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,079	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? I'm surprised at the number of people who don't like their 700r4, two others besides me. __________________ -- Josh Instagram: @americanmusc1e OLD SKOOL-- 1970 C10. 454/Th400/3.07 posi Build Thread FARM TRUCK----1949 Chevrolet 3800 Power Wagon Hauler Build Thread 1999 4wd OBS Tahoe - daily. DM me if you can't see photos i posted

01-24-2010, 07:36 PM	#1
americanmusc1e Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,079	are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? I'm doing a poll to see how many people that did a 700r4 or 2004r swap and are happy with the performance and reliability of their transmission. please comment on where you got your transmission from and what kind of engine and gears you have. and how much (if any) of a mileage increase you saw. I also want to know about you folks with Gear Vendors and Manual Valvebody 4L80E's please post your opinion. __________________ -- Josh Instagram: @americanmusc1e OLD SKOOL-- 1970 C10. 454/Th400/3.07 posi Build Thread FARM TRUCK----1949 Chevrolet 3800 Power Wagon Hauler Build Thread 1999 4wd OBS Tahoe - daily. DM me if you can't see photos i posted Last edited by americanmusc1e; 01-24-2010 at 07:40 PM.

01-24-2010, 10:40 PM	#10
powell72 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Loveland Co. Posts: 3,098	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? My 700 is great, it's from Jasper. Not even a hint of a leak from anywhere after 5 years and it shifts great. I have the BowtieOverdrives TVMADEEZ kit and their lockup kit. 70mph at 2500rpm. __________________ Chris 74 Custom Deluxe SWB 350/350/3.73’s 99 2wd Silverado RCSB 5.3/4L60/3.90’s http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...short_bed.html

01-24-2010, 10:57 PM	#11
roughedup72 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: south carolina Posts: 658	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? I've got a 700r4 and am happy with it. I bought it from a guy who rebuilt it,about 12 months later it took a crap on me. call the guy who had rebuilt it and he had recently passed away. He had been rebuilding them for along time and had built many of good ones. I think mine was one of the last he built. I had a friend that has been trans specialist for about 30 years and took it to him to get rebuilt. he showed me what went wrong and its been doing fine every since. It shifts good and strong and almost everytime it hits second I get this funny barking noise from the tires. I'm running a 350/4Barrel with 3:73 posi trac rear and 285/70/15 bfg's. rpms are right at 2300 at 65-70 mph and i get about 15-16mpg. __________________ 1972 chevy cheyenne 10,nothing special at the moment,Its a work in progress, Working on the engine, paint and body,engine, paint and body,now its the suspenion, ahh hell I'm about tired of working on it. Maybe it will be a rat rod. Last edited by roughedup72; 01-24-2010 at 10:58 PM.

01-25-2010, 12:18 AM	#12
Indyuke Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Stevens, WA Posts: 623	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? Got mine off craigslist for $130. With the driveline rebuild and the TV cable kit, the entire cost of the swap from turbo 350 to the 700 cost around $400. I've got about 27k miles on it and I'm happy so far.

01-25-2010, 08:14 PM	#13
Mondo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 538	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? The only problem I have with my 200r is it stays in lock up too long and lugs the motor. I've taken it to a couple places but I'm not satisfied. Was thinking if they could make a switch (I have the brake switch) so I can keep it out of lock up around town. Last edited by Mondo; 01-25-2010 at 08:14 PM.

01-26-2010, 11:16 AM	#15
americanmusc1e Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,079	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? it looks like the 200-4r is the way to go, nobody dislikes theirs. __________________ -- Josh Instagram: @americanmusc1e OLD SKOOL-- 1970 C10. 454/Th400/3.07 posi Build Thread FARM TRUCK----1949 Chevrolet 3800 Power Wagon Hauler Build Thread 1999 4wd OBS Tahoe - daily. DM me if you can't see photos i posted

01-25-2010, 08:22 PM	#16
mikey531 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Exeter, NH Posts: 794	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? I guess this question will never have a 100% consensus, I have a 2004R and 7004R sitting on the floor in my garage. I have a turbo 350 in my truck with 4.10 gears 2800 at 55mph. I just don't know which way to go.

01-25-2010, 08:31 PM	#17
yote1234 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Gold Canyon Arizona Posts: 4,381	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? im also watching this as i might want to upgrade... ... __________________ 1971 K5 CST Blazer 1951 -3100 5 window short bed 4sp 1965 Chevelle Malibu 283 (sadly sold) 1968 Camaro 327 1968 Honda mini-trail z50a #377 1966 uh 1-D Huey

01-25-2010, 09:06 PM	#18
big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? I have had at least three trucks with 700r4 and I have to agree that in most cases is the builder who screws them up.....Even though in my 71 I went with a fully built th350 and have no regrets as gas mileage was not in my priorities.... __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

01-26-2010, 12:46 PM	#21
weircc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: richmond, MO Posts: 794	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? bump i wanna know myself



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01-26-2010, 03:14 PM	#22
shopking72 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 774	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? Have a 700R4 in my 72 C10. The kid I bought it from had the TV cable hooked up but I thought the trans was shifting way too quick, and sure enough it wasnt adjusted right. It is now I only put mine into OD on the highway. Yes I am happy with it so far. __________________ 1972 C10 LWB- 4.5 Front and 5 Rear Drop, 406/TH350 1966 Caprice 1968 Impala (Frame Off LSX Project) 2001 Tahoe LT 2013 Hyundai Elantra 2010 Kawasaki Z1000 Last edited by shopking72; 01-26-2010 at 03:14 PM.

01-26-2010, 04:27 PM	#23
djw32 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: So.Cal Posts: 542	Re: are you happy with your 700r4 or 2004r????? I have a SW performance 700R4 in my 70 c-10. Steve knows what he is doing, and I got it for a great price. Give steve a call (714) 843-3237.

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