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Old 02-13-2010, 09:40 PM   #1
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hard rollin windows

'84 c-10 manual windows with new glass and scizzor mechanisms and new rubber, they were hard to roll down before and are the same after new parts.. its hard enough to where my friends can't roll them down and i'm afraid i'll eventally break something, any thoughts?
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Old 02-13-2010, 10:28 PM   #2
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Re: hard rollin windows

you need the panels off and just grease up the moving parts.
mine were the same way and now there smooooooooth

youll see what to grease once your in there
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Old 02-13-2010, 10:35 PM   #3
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Re: hard rollin windows

...greased it already.. any other suggestions?
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Old 02-13-2010, 10:48 PM   #4
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Re: hard rollin windows

put the window down and squeeze some soap down the channels and some water or some really soapy water and move the window up and down, if it is still hard to move something might not me lined up right. if it is still hard put preasure on the top of the glass as your winding it up, try near the front and near the back, if one way helps the something isnt level. is there aftermarket door on this truck or the original, or if they are original were the bolt holes in the door ovaled
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Old 02-13-2010, 10:54 PM   #5
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original doors and no they were not ovaled both windows are the same one is factory and the other is lmc, new glass in both
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:06 PM   #6
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well like i said before put the window down and put pressure on the top of the glass or pull up on the glass as your rolling it up- front and then back of window- if it rolls better the the window might not be going up straight, since you replaced everything is it better or worse
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:12 PM   #7
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Re: hard rollin windows

alright, if its out of whack how do i go about adjusting them?
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:39 PM   #8
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you might have to make a new hole for the scizzor on one side so it levels out if that is the prob, from the way it sounds they were rough before with the old weather stripping and after awhile the wore the weatherstripping and they moved better, but after replacing them they got tight on ya, say you pull up on the glass near the front of the door and it goes real smooth, then take the front bolt out of the scizzor and try moving it up alittle and use visegrips or something to hold it temp. and try the window if it move smooth the you might have to make a new hole then
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:45 PM   #9
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so i just shimmy the scissors around till its smooth? i got this right?
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:49 PM   #10
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yes...... but befor you drilling new holes make sure this is your problem first, make sure the window rail is greased and the rollers are sliding too
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:54 PM   #11
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Re: hard rollin windows

they were when it went on and it was stiff then too your probably right about the alignment i'll check it next time its in the garage
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Old 02-14-2010, 03:44 AM   #12
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make sure its not the window regulators themselves.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:54 AM   #13
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nope, everything worked fine outside the truck
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:41 AM   #14
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I use silicon spray on all the glass and rubber tracks. Clean the tracks and glass first, load the silicon on the glass and tracks, let it dry and just clean the glas with your regular glass cleaner.
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:06 AM   #15
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I use silicon spray on all the glass and rubber tracks. Clean the tracks and glass first, load the silicon on the glass and tracks, let it dry and just clean the glas with your regular glass cleaner.


hard rollin windows huh? take the door apart and figure it out, use some grease on the tracks and a brain cell.

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Old 02-15-2010, 12:13 AM   #16
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hard rollin windows huh? take the door apart and figure it out, use some grease on the tracks and a brain cell.

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Very helpful. Thanks
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hard rollin windows huh? take the door apart and figure it out, use some grease on the tracks and a brain cell.

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Old 08-03-2011, 04:40 PM   #18
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Re: hard rollin windows

long time bump...

my windows froze up and bent one regulator into a pretzel in the fall of last year
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i figure its better than starting a new thread, will 91 blazer windows work on my 84? i already have them i just wanna make sure before i rip my doors apart
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:57 PM   #19
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Re: hard rollin windows

Stating the obvious, but: I would remove the door panel and try to operate the window crank handle. You should be able to see what is moving and what is not moving. I had aftermarket window "run channels" installed in my truck and they were thicker than the originals, causing the window glass to bind slightly. After a few years they are wearing out and the windows roll easier (power windows). Also, a long shot, but the new regulators could not be installed properly - possibly tweaked out of shape, and causing the regulator to bind. Or, you might have the wrong regulators.
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:49 PM   #20
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Re: hard rollin windows

i changed my vents and windows from the 89 burb ,cranks from 87 burb to the 78 jimmy
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what i noticed this summer
in the heat is the inside rubber up against the window seems to have gotten down into the gap,and then it got (like i might break it) stiff
like i push from the top of the glass when going down
the 78 glass is almost twice as thick wondering if the 89 burb glass left a gap the rubber slipped into......
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:10 PM   #21
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Re: hard rollin windows

To test that run channel theory, spray a lot of the clear silicone spray in the run channels (the clear kind), until the run channels are really wet. If it is tight channels this should help - you will know right away.
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To test that run channel theory, spray a lot of the clear silicone spray in the run channels (the clear kind), until the run channels are really wet. If it is tight channels this should help - you will know right away.
it was the glass i already got them switched out, thanks for the suggestion though.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:06 PM   #23
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yep, thanks guys i posted that then switched out the glass, LMC glass is a different shape and curvature... factory works just fine now
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:32 PM   #24
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yep, thanks guys i posted that then switched out the glass, LMC glass is a different shape and curvature... factory works just fine now
That really sucks, so do the new windows fit their doors? Why wouldn't they make them the same as factory?
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That really sucks, so do the new windows fit their doors? Why wouldn't they make them the same as factory?
i dont know about them fitting their doors, but when i held them up together the stockers were actually wider at the top of the glass and the bottom was curved slightly in more (less than a 1/8 up top and less than a 1/16 on the bottm) so im assuming the curve was the problem, my buddy says the windows are still stiff but they work flawlessly for me.
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