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djmachinist · 02-23-2010, 11:50 AM

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Hello,

I'm new to this forum, I just recently discovered this thread, and have read "Blank Slate" with great interest. Your truck is really awesome!!! The Build info has been very inspiring for my own efforts.

I have aquired an 1969 GMC short bed fleet in mostly original condition. It is a small block 307 & Powerglide tranny. It was a farm truck for 38 years based just outside Hot Springs, Arkansas. The guy I bought it from had it painted light Green. I believe this is the original color, however I think it was originally a two-tone, light green/white. When I had the windshield replaced, I found white paint at the sides and top of the windshield seat. The suspension, brakes and steering need rebuilding. I will convert to disc fronts. I have ordered the disc brake kit with 2 1/2" dropped spindles with 3" drop springs in the back. I ordered everything from Early.

Thanks,
Dale

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0331grunt · 02-23-2010, 11:58 AM

That is a good looking truck. Good luck with your upgrades

67ChevyRedneck · 02-23-2010, 12:19 PM

Very sharp truck! It's going to look great with that drop.

djmachinist · 02-23-2010, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Very sharp truck! It's going to look great with that drop.

Wow! 67ChevyRedneck, what a project you went through! Great Build!! I read thru your build start to finish. Great Job! I'm going to read you other guys builds also as soon as I can get to them. This site really has some dedicated people doing these old trucks. Luckly I'm starting with a pretty solid, no rust truck. After crawling around the vehicle for two days, I only saw two places where any detectable rust, was a slight repair at the cab corners. The Floor boards, rockers and bed look to be ok.

MY BUILD LIST:

SUSPENSION, BRAKES & STEERING:

Rebuild the suspension front and rear with new springs, bushings and shocks. I'm going to lower the rear 3" . also new track bar. New A-arms w/ball joints.

Front Disc brake conversion using 2 1/2" drop spindles w/ new MC and rebuilt rear drum brakes.

Totally rebuild the Power Steering w/ new steering box, tie rods, pitman arm, idler arm and new hoses.

ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION:

I have ordered a GM Performance ZZ4 350HO cate engine complete with
carb, air cleaner, starter, fuel pump, HEI Dist., Serpentine accessory drive belt and pulleys w/ alternator, power steering pump and air cond. compressor.
(This was a amazing deal from "CrateEnginesDepot.com").

Transmission will be a rebuilt Turbo 350 w/ a mild shift kit. I going to keep the original 373:1 rear end.

Most of the parts are coing from Early or LMC.

Thanks,
Dale

**wancosc356** · 02-23-2010, 12:23 PM

Very nice truck! Very clean!

HuggerCST · 02-23-2010, 12:27 PM

Very nice. It kinda reminds me of 72blckbuty's truck. You'll have to check it out when you get a chance.

my67chevytruck · 02-23-2010, 12:39 PM

great looking truck

dieselarmy13 · 02-23-2010, 12:47 PM

Really nice lookin truck you got there. Can't wait to see it a little bit lower to the ground. Please tell me your keeping it a GMC.

djmachinist · 02-23-2010, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselarmy13

Really nice lookin truck you got there. Can't wait to see it a little bit lower to the ground. Please tell me your keeping it a GMC.

Yes, I will keep it an GMC!!!

Dale

67ChevyRedneck · 02-23-2010, 04:49 PM

Thanks

She gets driven too. I've put about 13,000 miles on it since Nov 2006.

**lolife99** · 02-23-2010, 09:46 PM

Nice Truck.
Subscribing for future updates!

BB72CHEVKT · 02-23-2010, 09:51 PM

Great plans. I am gonna watch this one I think it will turn out nice.

72BlckButy · 02-25-2010, 03:20 PM

That is a killer truck, can't wait to see some progress shots.

Kind of reminds me of mine...

djmachinist · 02-25-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

That is a killer truck, can't wait to see some progress shots.

Kind of reminds me of mine...

Yeah, When I read through "Blank Slate" I thought i was looking at my truck's Bowtie twin. Have you found anything on that rubber bedmat yet?

Dale

72BlckButy · 02-25-2010, 04:07 PM

Oh shoot.... my fault! I was out of town until late last night and won't be home until tomorrow afternoon. I will make a note and have you some information by tomorrow night.

Sorry about that Dale!

Question.... are you keeping the 6-lug setup or changing to 5-lug?

djmachinist · 02-25-2010, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Oh shoot.... my fault! I was out of town until late last night and won't be home until tomorrow afternoon. I will make a note and have you some information by tomorrow night.

Sorry about that Dale!

Question.... are you keeping the 6-lug setup or changing to 5-lug?

Nate,

I'm really struggling with that issue right now. My wheel search has been frustrating to say the least. Lolife99 clued me in on your saga trying to get the front wheels tucked in a bit after the disc brake change and getting the rear widen a bit. The wheel choices for 6 lug are somewhat limited. The back spacing offered by most of the wheel peddlers have the wrong back spacing to accomplish what I need to do (which is the same problem you had with the Rally Wheels).

I now have found a simple steel crager chrome wheel (Soft Eight) that has a 8" wide front wheel with a 4.75 inch back spacing which I think will solve the front to wide problem. Crager has this same wheel in a 10" wide rim with a 4.00 inch back spacing I could use in the rear to widen the rear stance a bit. If I need to widen the rear more, I can add a 1/2" spacer behind the wheel.
I plan on mounting BF Goodrich radial TA's size P275/60 R15 on the rear and
P255/60 R15's on the front. What do you think?

Dale

djmachinist · 02-25-2010, 05:24 PM

Good News:

The GM Performance ZZ4 350 Turn Key Crate Engine arrived today at the shop thats doing the Engine/Trans swap for me! I will go there after work today and get some pics.

Dale

58 gmc · 02-25-2010, 06:31 PM

Great Lookin GMC, gotta love the 4 holers

djmachinist · 02-26-2010, 06:56 PM

Ok.....I took a few pics of the ZZ4 350 crate engine! Bumbera performance is doing the engine/trans swap for me. This is the most popular Turn Key crate engine from GM Performance. 355 HP/405 FT/Lbs. . It comes fully dressed out.
Holly 750 carb, starter, fuel pump, HEI Distributor, Chrome air cleaner, Complete Serpentine Accessory Drive with all brackets, pully's, power steering pump, water pump, 100 amp alternator, and a GM late model Air Conditioning Compressor. The Motor is setting just outside waiting to be moved inside the garage bay so I did not remove the plastic wrap. It looked like it might rain.

**lolife99** · 02-26-2010, 09:39 PM

Nice choice for your new powerplant!

72BlckButy · 02-26-2010, 10:10 PM

.... that is a nice setup!

Maybe I could borrow that 307 and pep up my 250....

I'm still digging for the specs on the mat I have in my truck. I'm going to call the shop we purchased it from and see if they can provide me with some info. I had the information saved some place but things have been kind of crazy lately so there's not telling where it ran off too.

djmachinist · 02-28-2010, 12:35 PM

Hey Nate,

Was the Rubber Bedmat you used was brand name "ProTecta"? Summit has this mat.

Dale

philB · 01-10-2014, 04:39 PM

have not been on this site too long, saw your build, great job, but have a '69 c10 stepside drum breaks, and want to put on ralleys but, as you, having trouble finding the correct centers and backspace, found several sites with rallys for 6 lug, summitt etc not too bad cost and free shipping but they don't know if they will fit correctly, yours look great and if youy havent sold um as yet I would be intrested,

QKENUF4U · 02-28-2010, 03:05 PM

man thats a NICE FREAKIN TRUCK !!!

72BlckButy · 03-02-2010, 08:39 PM

Dale, I haven't forgot about you. I had to head out for work on Sunday and haven't been home long enough to even try to call the shop. I will give them a call tomorrow.

02-23-2010, 11:50 AM	#1
djmachinist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 253	1969 GMC Short Fleet Build -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I'm new to this forum, I just recently discovered this thread, and have read "Blank Slate" with great interest. Your truck is really awesome!!! The Build info has been very inspiring for my own efforts. I have aquired an 1969 GMC short bed fleet in mostly original condition. It is a small block 307 & Powerglide tranny. It was a farm truck for 38 years based just outside Hot Springs, Arkansas. The guy I bought it from had it painted light Green. I believe this is the original color, however I think it was originally a two-tone, light green/white. When I had the windshield replaced, I found white paint at the sides and top of the windshield seat. The suspension, brakes and steering need rebuilding. I will convert to disc fronts. I have ordered the disc brake kit with 2 1/2" dropped spindles with 3" drop springs in the back. I ordered everything from Early. Thanks, Dale Pics:

02-23-2010, 11:58 AM	#2
0331grunt Now what?? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Webbers Falls, OK Posts: 579	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build That is a good looking truck. Good luck with your upgrades __________________ 69 Long Fleet - Project 06 Ram 1ton Cummins 4x4-DD 01 Tahoe- wifes "The quality of a persons life is in direct proportion to their commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of endeavor." ~ Vince Lombardi "A dream doesn't become reality through magic, it takes sweat, determination and hard work." ~ Colin Powell my, um, build USMC OIF Veteran SEMPER FI!

02-23-2010, 12:19 PM	#3
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Very sharp truck! It's going to look great with that drop. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

02-23-2010, 12:23 PM	#5
wancosc356 I Like Mine With No Shine! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,705	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Very nice truck! Very clean! __________________ Michael 1967 Chevrolet C10 Short Fleet (Literal Ground Up....One Day) 2006 GMC Sierra Crew Cab 4x4 1969 Lincoln Continental Coupe Project FOR SALE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/c...ct=4578&cat=17 1981 Honda CM400 C Bobber SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=384152

02-23-2010, 12:27 PM	#6
HuggerCST Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Louisiana Posts: 4,501	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Very nice. It kinda reminds me of 72blckbuty's truck. You'll have to check it out when you get a chance. __________________ Wynne 70 CST short fleet Hugger orange & white, 350/350, ps, pb, air, tilt, tach/vac/speedwarning, original buckets, AM/FM, oak bed floor, shoulder belts, 3.5"/5.5" drop, 20" American Racing VN425s. Build thread 53 Chevy shortbed 69 Camaro Click here to subscribe Chevy GMC International Truck Club Louisiana Charter Member http://www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com Last edited by HuggerCST; 02-23-2010 at 12:29 PM.

02-23-2010, 12:39 PM	#7
my67chevytruck Under Construction Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midlothian,TX (DFW) Posts: 4,555	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build great looking truck __________________ Heath subscribe to the board here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=157669 FAQ how to's 1956 Chevy Apache 1967 C10 SWB FleetSide (under construction) 1969 K10 SWB FleetSide (Future Build) 1972 C10 SWB Stepside (Future Build) 56 chevy truck : http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2955823/1 67 truck build: http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=281357/1 69 k10: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=389470

02-23-2010, 12:47 PM	#8
dieselarmy13 Phone's ringin Dude. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,426	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Really nice lookin truck you got there. Can't wait to see it a little bit lower to the ground. Please tell me your keeping it a GMC. __________________ I pitty the fool with only two headlights!! 2003 SILVERADO SS--THE NEW GIRL 1972 GMC--THE OLD GIRL

02-23-2010, 04:49 PM	#10
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Thanks She gets driven too. I've put about 13,000 miles on it since Nov 2006. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

02-23-2010, 09:46 PM	#11
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Nice Truck. Subscribing for future updates! __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

02-23-2010, 09:51 PM	#12
BB72CHEVKT Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hideaway, TX Posts: 4,950	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Great plans. I am gonna watch this one I think it will turn out nice. __________________ 71 Suburban 350/700R4 Project Trixie 72 CHEVY,Highlander,SWB,396,T400

02-25-2010, 03:20 PM	#13
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build That is a killer truck, can't wait to see some progress shots. Kind of reminds me of mine... __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package) Last edited by 72BlckButy; 02-25-2010 at 03:20 PM.

02-25-2010, 04:07 PM	#15
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Oh shoot.... my fault! I was out of town until late last night and won't be home until tomorrow afternoon. I will make a note and have you some information by tomorrow night. Sorry about that Dale! Question.... are you keeping the 6-lug setup or changing to 5-lug? __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package) Last edited by 72BlckButy; 02-25-2010 at 04:08 PM.

02-25-2010, 05:24 PM	#17
djmachinist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 253	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Good News: The GM Performance ZZ4 350 Turn Key Crate Engine arrived today at the shop thats doing the Engine/Trans swap for me! I will go there after work today and get some pics. Dale __________________ 1969 GMC SWB FLEETSIDE ZZ 383 CRATE MOTOR,700R4,& 3.73 POSI & VINTAGE AIR DALE JONES MY BUILD THREAD: "69 GMC SHORT FLEET" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=388447

02-25-2010, 06:31 PM	#18
58 gmc ToTM Winner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: okc Posts: 243	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Great Lookin GMC, gotta love the 4 holers __________________ ToTM Winner

02-26-2010, 06:56 PM	#19
djmachinist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 253	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Ok.....I took a few pics of the ZZ4 350 crate engine! Bumbera performance is doing the engine/trans swap for me. This is the most popular Turn Key crate engine from GM Performance. 355 HP/405 FT/Lbs. . It comes fully dressed out. Holly 750 carb, starter, fuel pump, HEI Distributor, Chrome air cleaner, Complete Serpentine Accessory Drive with all brackets, pully's, power steering pump, water pump, 100 amp alternator, and a GM late model Air Conditioning Compressor. The Motor is setting just outside waiting to be moved inside the garage bay so I did not remove the plastic wrap. It looked like it might rain. Attached Images __________________ 1969 GMC SWB FLEETSIDE ZZ 383 CRATE MOTOR,700R4,& 3.73 POSI & VINTAGE AIR DALE JONES MY BUILD THREAD: "69 GMC SHORT FLEET" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=388447 Last edited by djmachinist; 02-26-2010 at 06:57 PM.



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02-26-2010, 09:39 PM	#20
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,700	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Nice choice for your new powerplant! __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

02-26-2010, 10:10 PM	#21
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build .... that is a nice setup! Maybe I could borrow that 307 and pep up my 250.... I'm still digging for the specs on the mat I have in my truck. I'm going to call the shop we purchased it from and see if they can provide me with some info. I had the information saved some place but things have been kind of crazy lately so there's not telling where it ran off too. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package) Last edited by 72BlckButy; 02-26-2010 at 10:11 PM.

02-28-2010, 12:35 PM	#22
djmachinist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 253	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Hey Nate, Was the Rubber Bedmat you used was brand name "ProTecta"? Summit has this mat. Dale __________________ 1969 GMC SWB FLEETSIDE ZZ 383 CRATE MOTOR,700R4,& 3.73 POSI & VINTAGE AIR DALE JONES MY BUILD THREAD: "69 GMC SHORT FLEET" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=388447

01-10-2014, 04:39 PM	#23
philB Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: new orleans, la. Posts: 217	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build have not been on this site too long, saw your build, great job, but have a '69 c10 stepside drum breaks, and want to put on ralleys but, as you, having trouble finding the correct centers and backspace, found several sites with rallys for 6 lug, summitt etc not too bad cost and free shipping but they don't know if they will fit correctly, yours look great and if youy havent sold um as yet I would be intrested,

02-28-2010, 03:05 PM	#24
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build man thats a NICE FREAKIN TRUCK !!!

03-02-2010, 08:39 PM	#25
72BlckButy Tot Roddin' Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 24,461	Re: 1969 GMC Short Fleet Build Dale, I haven't forgot about you. I had to head out for work on Sunday and haven't been home long enough to even try to call the shop. I will give them a call tomorrow. __________________ -Nate 1969 CST SWB - Project Blank Slate (4.5/6" ECE Static Drop, 6-lug disc brake upgrade (manual), Billet Specialties Vintec 20x8.5 255/40 (F) 20x10 295/40 (R), 250 I-6) 1960 AMF Skylark - Tot Roddin' (Lowered with custom frame; soon to include custom push bar and interior) 2008 Silverado CrewCab 1LT (5.3L, 3:73, 4x4, LT1, Z-71, Towing Package)

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