Scott's Hotrods Bolt in IFS...coilover edition

[Scottshotrods]

So earlier in the week we posted the bolt on ifs, airbag system..

I know we mentioned the Coilover IFS, but it can be hard to picture without....well, pictures!!

Here's a few shots.





The *****in thing about the coilover set-up is that my cost on a set of coilovers v. a set of bags/shocks is nearly the same, so no matter which way you order it, it'll be the same price.

Not sure if jephs422 covered any pricing yet, but as we sit right now the plain package is complete at $2895 W/ power or manual rack. That is complete hub to hub with your choice of 5 on 4.5 or 5 on 4.75 bolt pattern.

The brake system is going to be the only real functioning upgrade. Sure you can get stainless arms, polished coil-overs, etc..but for function, the brakes are going to be one of the deciding factors on your bolt pattern, rim size, etc.

I'll add some more pictures here in a bit.

[STOCKISH]

Wish I had the cash. That would look freaking sick under the front of my truck with the 6.0 swap and all. Nice looking product. Need anyone to do some R&D type stuff???

[silvereagle07]

No 5 on 5 bolt pattern?

[Scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by silvereagle07

No 5 on 5 bolt pattern?

we have all the bolt patterns covered.

5 on 4.5
5 on 4.75
5 on 5
5 on 5.5
6 lug

[Racker]

Originally Posted by Scottshotrods

we have all the bolt patterns covered.

5 on 4.5
5 on 4.75
5 on 5
5 on 5.5
6 lug

you are missing one bolt pattern, how about 8 on 6.5 for the dually guys on here?

otherwise, looks like a nice set up.

[Scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by Racker

you are missing one bolt pattern, how about 8 on 6.5 for the dually guys on here?

otherwise, looks like a nice set up.

We can build a 1 ton 8lug version as well we have done this in the past.
It is very possible
Justin

[jephs422]

Originally Posted by Racker

you are missing one bolt pattern, how about 8 on 6.5 for the dually guys on here?

otherwise, looks like a nice set up.

Justin's right, we've done those before. Just know that when we do that bolt pattern, we end up having to run all 1 ton stuff. Obviously we have to redesign the entire suspension, which is absolutely not a big deal. However, the price on parts goes WAY up. 1 ton spindles, brakes, ball joints...are very spendy, and then we get to pass the savings on to you, LOL!!

[68GMCCustom]

some day......

[qu1cks1lver56]

I want that!
but no dice on that price for me.

[Scottshotrods]

We will be doing a group buy on this bolt-on ifs and we also have this in a airbag
version as well for the same price.Let us know how many guys might consider this.
If we get enough interest we will have a nice group discount to go with it.
Justin

[thepenguin99]

Would love to have that sitting under the front of my truck but the price is way more than I would consider.

[Scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by thepenguin99

Would love to have that sitting under the front of my truck but the price is way more than I would consider.

Do understand and if you price compare ours with others in a bolt-on ifs.
Only as a complete package we have the best price by far
Justin

[S10Fan]

I'd be interested in a "Group Buy", all you guys get together as a group and buy me one. LOL

Nice piece, very nice piece!

[STOCKISH]

Just noticed, lookslike a pretty sharp angle on that upper ball joint for the suspension to be unloaded. How is it when full weight is resting on it?

[Scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by 1972SuperCheyenne

Just noticed, lookslike a pretty sharp angle on that upper ball joint for the suspension to be unloaded. How is it when full weight is resting on it?

When the truck is on all 4 wheels and with the motor in it the angles you see here will change 100% with the weight on it and there is no problem at all
with the ball joint angle.In the pic you see here the suspension is at full droop.
Justin

[thepenguin99]

Originally Posted by Scottshotrods

Do understand and if you price compare ours with others in a bolt-on ifs.
Only as a complete package we have the best price by far
Justin

Maybe I should have elaborated. I wasn't saying it wasn't competitive with similar offerings. My truck, like most squares in decent shape, is probably a 3k truck...when I get the motor back in anyway. If I had a truck as awesome as say 1972SuperCheyenne's 86 the price wouldn't be nearly as huge an issue for me.

[Scottshotrods]

Originally Posted by thepenguin99

Maybe I should have elaborated. I wasn't saying it wasn't competitive with similar offerings. My truck, like most squares in decent shape, is probably a 3k truck...when I get the motor back in anyway. If I had a truck as awesome as say 1972SuperCheyenne's 86 the price wouldn't be nearly as huge an issue for me.

Do understand

[STOCKISH]

Originally Posted by thepenguin99

Maybe I should have elaborated. I wasn't saying it wasn't competitive with similar offerings. My truck, like most squares in decent shape, is probably a 3k truck...when I get the motor back in anyway. If I had a truck as awesome as say 1972SuperCheyenne's 86 the price wouldn't be nearly as huge an issue for me.

Mines not THAT nice but thanks! Thats awesome.

[baclay9]

Please excuse my ignorance on this subject but what would be the advantage of a setup like this. I can understand if you had the one with air bags but wouldn't this just be like a static drop with the coil overs? I am new to all of this.

[jephs422]

Originally Posted by baclay9

Please excuse my ignorance on this subject but what would be the advantage of a setup like this. I can understand if you had the one with air bags but wouldn't this just be like a static drop with the coil overs? I am new to all of this.

Not an ignorant question at all. Suspension geometry to some is kind of like a nuclear physics to most. Although we all know it works for a reason, most of us don't understand how or why.

The main advantage is going to plain and simply be an increase is PROPER handling, roll center, ride comfort, etc. When we build these, we spend a lot of time and engineering in making sure that the suspension that goes under that vehicle is 100% correct for that particular set up. Meaning, that the camber/caster gain is correct. The steering characteristics are optimal, and that it is all set up and designed to work at whatever ride height is finally achieved.

The stock suspension (like almost ALL OEM suspensions) are designed as a middle road/optimal ride/minimal service type of front end. It is a truck first and foremost, so GM didn't exactly plan the suspension geometry to handle like a car, much less a sporty car. Taking a stock suspension and simply lowering it will only achieve in lowering your CG, and upsetting what would be proper geometry for that suspension.

Make sense at all?

[AceX]

Nice setup Scott! Do you have any options on the R&P as far as ratio?

[nlped]

That piece is beautiful! I would certainly be interested in the bags/shocks version if I could reuse my McGaughy drop spindle...as I already have their 13" big brake kit w/ spindle . Would that be feasible?

[nlped]

Originally Posted by nlped

That piece is beautiful! I would certainly be interested in the bags/shocks version if I could reuse my McGaughy drop spindle...as I already have their 13" big brake kit w/ spindle . Would that be feasible?

???

[jephs422]

Originally Posted by nlped

???

Sorry, we don't do any kits with that spindle/brake set-up. All of our kits are based on in-house specs, and when we attempt to use those spindles, ball/joints combo's, the retro fit just doesn't work out effectively. Don't get me wrong, it can be done, what you will spend in the cost for the "custom" application, will already have more than paid for a new set of brakes.

[3r!c84]

is that lou from muscle car?