Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

bill2509 · 08-07-2010, 08:39 PM

Im thinking about filling the bed seams in my 1964 Chevy shortwide anyone have any experience doing this? Do they have to be welded or can you use a seam sealer? Any Help would be appreciated. Thanks Bill

**Captainfab** · 08-08-2010, 01:08 AM

Welding them would be the best way to fill the seams. However one member here has used JB Weld on similar jobs with good results. You could use another product like maybe panel bonding adhesive, but I don't know if that can be used to fill a large gap like that. You'll want something with excellent adhesion and that sets up solid. Also you will need to have the seam to be filled extremely clean.

63 extreme low · 08-08-2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab

Welding them would be the best way to fill the seams. However one member here has used JB Weld on similar jobs with good results. You could use another product like maybe panel bonding adhesive, but I don't know if that can be used to fill a large gap like that. You'll want something with excellent adhesion and that sets up solid. Also you will need to have the seam to be filled extremely clean.

I agree with CaptainFab, welding would be best. A few years ago Nissan had a TSB on repairing some "issues" on new cars with a two part epoxy from 3M. I will see if I can find you some more info.

markeb01 · 08-08-2010, 01:42 PM

Here's the JB Weld thread.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=369713

I've never done anything as big as a fleetside bed seam, but have never experienced a failure with JB Weld in any of the repairs attempted. The key to success is absolutely cleanliness and a good rough sandblasted seam/gap. If you choose to try this technique, regular JB Weld is preferred as it has higher tensile strength than JB Kwik. You can save some money by purchasing the large economy version called Industro Weld. It's the same thing as regular or original JB Weld, just in a bigger tube:

Amazon.com: J-B Weld 8280 Industro Weld 10 oz.:...
I would agree welding something this big and visible would be preferable, however the amount of labor needed to accomplish this without warping would certainly be a significant task (at least with my welding skills).

Alan's Classic · 08-08-2010, 07:43 PM

It took me about 2.0 hours to weld one of my bedsides with minimal warpage. The only thing I would worry about in the expansion rate of JB weld compared to metal. In sever heating and cooling it could cause problems. Maybe not just my .02.

markeb01 · 08-08-2010, 10:34 PM

I would share the expansion concern on such a long seam. The longest seam I ever filled with JB Weld was the front fender gap, which is only about a foot long and almost a continuous curve. I wish I had thought to fill my front hood seam before my repaint last year. I would liked to have known if it would fail with the twisting and flexing of the hood over such a long expanse. Unfortunately now that it's finished I don't have the enthusiasm to experiment.

bill2509 · 08-09-2010, 10:30 AM

Thanks guys for the suggestions. It is appreciated. Does anyone have pics of the welding process on a bed side or a hood? Thanks Again Bill

Alan's Classic · 08-09-2010, 11:15 AM

I'm on my phone right now so I can't get you any pics, but somewhere in my 103 pages of my build I have done both the hood and bed. Just search my thread if you get time. The link is in my signature. If I remember I'll get you some pics tonight.

bill2509 · 08-09-2010, 07:10 PM

Thanks Alan, I found the pictures of your bed side, very nice work, is there a lot of warping that occures and do you have any thoughts on the best way to grind out the weld? Any Advice would be Greatly Appreciated, Thanks Bill

Alan's Classic · 08-09-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bill2509

Thanks Alan, I found the pictures of your bed side, very nice work, is there a lot of warping that occures and do you have any thoughts on the best way to grind out the weld? Any Advice would be Greatly Appreciated, Thanks Bill

Bill, I don't know your level of experience or equipment. I jumped around a lot to let the heat disapate. My welds were mostly 3/8 long if I remember. That also depends on how you have your welder set at. I made some longer and it was too much heat. I also did my hood and weill be doing my fenders in time. Here is a pic of what I used to clean up the welds. I used the 1991 on a straight die grinder to get the bulk of the weld cleaned up then followed up with the 1407 roloc. Good luck. If you have any other questions, just ask.

bill2509 · 08-11-2010, 07:55 AM

I do have some pics, I will try and upload them later today.

bill2509 · 08-11-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bill2509

I do have some pics, I will try and upload them later today.

Here are some pics of Inner Patch Panels Before Welding, Didnt get a chance to upload new pics tonight. Bill

Alan's Classic · 08-11-2010, 09:34 PM

Very well done.

bill2509 · 08-17-2010, 04:33 PM

Alan, can you give some advice on blocking and quide coating slick sand? Thanks Bill

Alan's Classic · 08-17-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bill2509

Alan, can you give some advice on blocking and quide coating slick sand? Thanks Bill

Here try this video for now. I have more just got to find them. Let me know if this helps.

1965 Chevy C10 Build :: M2U00089.flv video by...

bill2509 · 08-25-2010, 02:45 PM

Troy, Thanks for the info, I took a look at your build, looks like your doing a Great Job!!, I've decided to keep my bedsides stock, but I am going to weld the hood seams. Thanks Again Bill

08-07-2010, 08:39 PM	#1
bill2509 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa OKlahoma Posts: 114	Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB Im thinking about filling the bed seams in my 1964 Chevy shortwide anyone have any experience doing this? Do they have to be welded or can you use a seam sealer? Any Help would be appreciated. Thanks Bill

08-08-2010, 01:08 AM	#2
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,246	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB Welding them would be the best way to fill the seams. However one member here has used JB Weld on similar jobs with good results. You could use another product like maybe panel bonding adhesive, but I don't know if that can be used to fill a large gap like that. You'll want something with excellent adhesion and that sets up solid. Also you will need to have the seam to be filled extremely clean. __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE

08-08-2010, 01:42 PM	#4
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB Here's the JB Weld thread. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=369713 I've never done anything as big as a fleetside bed seam, but have never experienced a failure with JB Weld in any of the repairs attempted. The key to success is absolutely cleanliness and a good rough sandblasted seam/gap. If you choose to try this technique, regular JB Weld is preferred as it has higher tensile strength than JB Kwik. You can save some money by purchasing the large economy version called Industro Weld. It's the same thing as regular or original JB Weld, just in a bigger tube: Amazon.com: J-B Weld 8280 Industro Weld 10 oz.:... I would agree welding something this big and visible would be preferable, however the amount of labor needed to accomplish this without warping would certainly be a significant task (at least with my welding skills). Last edited by markeb01; 08-08-2010 at 10:28 PM.

08-08-2010, 07:43 PM	#5
Alan's Classic 1 thing at a time is progress. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground GA Posts: 5,511	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB It took me about 2.0 hours to weld one of my bedsides with minimal warpage. The only thing I would worry about in the expansion rate of JB weld compared to metal. In sever heating and cooling it could cause problems. Maybe not just my .02. __________________ Alan Philippians 2:14-16 Alan's Classic Facebook page. North Georgia Group Project 1965 Vitamin C-10 1995 GMC Sierra K1500 The "Wrecker"

08-08-2010, 10:34 PM	#6
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB I would share the expansion concern on such a long seam. The longest seam I ever filled with JB Weld was the front fender gap, which is only about a foot long and almost a continuous curve. I wish I had thought to fill my front hood seam before my repaint last year. I would liked to have known if it would fail with the twisting and flexing of the hood over such a long expanse. Unfortunately now that it's finished I don't have the enthusiasm to experiment.

08-09-2010, 10:30 AM	#7
bill2509 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa OKlahoma Posts: 114	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB Thanks guys for the suggestions. It is appreciated. Does anyone have pics of the welding process on a bed side or a hood? Thanks Again Bill

08-09-2010, 11:15 AM	#8
Alan's Classic 1 thing at a time is progress. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground GA Posts: 5,511	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB I'm on my phone right now so I can't get you any pics, but somewhere in my 103 pages of my build I have done both the hood and bed. Just search my thread if you get time. The link is in my signature. If I remember I'll get you some pics tonight. __________________ Alan Philippians 2:14-16 Alan's Classic Facebook page. North Georgia Group Project 1965 Vitamin C-10 1995 GMC Sierra K1500 The "Wrecker"

08-09-2010, 07:10 PM	#9
bill2509 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa OKlahoma Posts: 114	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB Thanks Alan, I found the pictures of your bed side, very nice work, is there a lot of warping that occures and do you have any thoughts on the best way to grind out the weld? Any Advice would be Greatly Appreciated, Thanks Bill

08-11-2010, 07:55 AM	#11
bill2509 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa OKlahoma Posts: 114	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB I do have some pics, I will try and upload them later today.

08-11-2010, 09:34 PM	#13
Alan's Classic 1 thing at a time is progress. Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ball Ground GA Posts: 5,511	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB Very well done. __________________ Alan Philippians 2:14-16 Alan's Classic Facebook page. North Georgia Group Project 1965 Vitamin C-10 1995 GMC Sierra K1500 The "Wrecker"

08-17-2010, 04:33 PM	#14
bill2509 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa OKlahoma Posts: 114	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB Alan, can you give some advice on blocking and quide coating slick sand? Thanks Bill

08-25-2010, 02:45 PM	#16
bill2509 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tulsa OKlahoma Posts: 114	Re: Best way to fill bed seams in 64 SWB Troy, Thanks for the info, I took a look at your build, looks like your doing a Great Job!!, I've decided to keep my bedsides stock, but I am going to weld the hood seams. Thanks Again Bill



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