Death of a Plainsman

[motornut]

Well this truck just gets more interesting.But i figure i'll start a thread as i'm gonna start doin work on the truck,

[motornut]

So far fixed electrical stuff,rear end,new deer lights ,got 6 lights for the roof but went with the 4 on bumper after seeing some get torn off.Seats back broke,i fixed them,they broke,i switched them,tubes are to thin.Decided blue will do for now.

[motornut]

had to weld in the inner brackets from my 89 for the front buckets

[bharrison1]

Originally Posted by motornut

Well this truck just gets more interesting.But i figure i'll start a thread as i'm gonna start doin work on the truck,

uhhhh nice project but that kinda looks like a dead body in the trash bag behind the dog !!!ya gotta hide that stuff before ya take the pictures man ha ha!!

[motornut]

It's ok none of my ex's are missing lol

[bharrison1]

ha ha good

[motornut]

? Where would someone find the serial numbers on a frame of this truck,and i've tried to get the number off the back of the block......can't get close tried tinfoil.....any other tricks

[motornut]

When i bought this truck i never thought about the tbi other than i was the same as my 87 4x4 sub.It smokes when it starts after sitting a week or so.....till it warms up.i've been told that this truck should not have a tbi in it.It was ordered from the factory by Vacation Customs from Texas with 1 rpo"rear seat not desired"2nd row.the seats that came were all custom made.......anybody else seen a rather factory looking tbi in a 85

[GmtGmt]

yeap passenger side frame rail second row seats

[motornut]

got appointment wensday morning at my gm dealer ,or the police,lol or a frame off body job lol will be performed in that order ,if i still have the truck..........found an 83 for sale 2000........but its 2x,but gona go clean out the tool box

[Skratch]

Just a thought as I went through something similar with my truck.

It is very possible that the tub with the VIN is from a different truck all together. And that it was a body swap job that never had all the proper paper work completed on.

I have a truck that was bought as an 87 4wd 1/2t . . . however the frame VIN and body VIN didn't match. But I still got a clean title.
It has an 88 1/2t 4wd frame and driveline, but an 87 tub and the title was for the 87.
Now I have an 89 3/4t 2wd tub on it with the 88 1/2t 4wd frame and driveline.

It can be a serious headache to get it all sorted out and get a clean title . . . I opted for a slightly less difficult procedure and have a clean '00 self assembled title now . . . which allowed me to register it and insure it as normal.

[tobiahr]

If the truck was a Texas native the title stays with the body VIN and a frame and engine swap would not change the title in any way. I did a full body swap on a vehicle and the shop I went to cut and welded the dash into the new body to transfer the VIN.

[motornut]

i have come to realize this is not likely a swap other then the vin plate.the truck was never 2 wheel,or had a 454,or was a 3/4 ton.What i was told is that it is not legal (here in Ont .Ca)to have it regestered to carry more weight then it should.It is still regestered 3/4 ton but only a 1/2 ton,4X4.I was told this truck could be seized on the road or crossing the border as things don't match.With the door Vin # missing and the rpo sticker with the vin removed

[motornut]

Thanks ,could it be kept the with the same vin would it be done ok in the USA.
Someone said GM can reissue vins?
lol if it works out maybe this will be the first and only one.
Being ordered for a conversion from the factory.
i just didn't worry bout the engine change etc till NOW




Hope this an't buddys first and last ride

[Keith Seymore]

Over here you would have to get a "state issued" VIN, if you decided to start over. It would bare no resemblance to the factory issued VIN interms of characters, meaning and sequence.

Regarding: "...someone said GM can reissue VINS": do you mean for vehicles where the VIN has been altered/defaced? No - that would be the state issued VIN above.

Or - do you mean for vehicles that are shipped to outside conversion companies? Once again - no; once the vehicle leaves the assembly plant that VIN is supposed to be forever affixed and unaltered.

I can even give an example: we are taking some North American 2011 "saleable" base vehicles and converting them to 2012 European nameplate "non saleable" vehicles. Even in this extreme case we will leave the VIN as it is (normally non-saleable vehicles get an "EX" VIN).

K

[motornut]

I was told it was a converson done to a heavy half?
would that explain the 16 inch tires,on the door sticker?
And the vin is ok
and how can i tell if this was done

[68 TT]

Originally Posted by motornut

Thanks ,could it be kept the with the same vin would it be done ok in the USA.
Someone said GM can reissue vins?
lol if it works out maybe this will be the first and only one.
Being ordered for a conversion from the factory.
i just didn't worry bout the engine change etc till NOW

My state will install a new VIN tag onto a cab that matches the frame VIN if you swap a cab out as long as you have the paperwork to prove where it all came from.

I did this after I had a tree fall on my truck and smashed the cab. Got a good used cab from the wrecking yard with a bill of sale and swapped all my parts onto it then put the truck back together.

The state patrol inspection lanes guy removed the old VIN plate from the dash and riveted a new state tag onto the dash which had the frame VIN number stamped into it.

It may take a little paperwork to find out the story behind your rig and track down the last registered owner of the frame VIN based vehicle. The police should be able to do this for you just to prove it is not stolen.

[motornut]

how to tell? if the front axle etc was added,and i guess the tbi is then aftermarket

[GmtGmt]

its not the first time i have heard about TBI in 85 on trucks but i think keith would be the one to belive in as he was there and know what these trucks came with

[SS Delux]

Man that sucks, was that your dd ? what are you going to do with it now ?

[mooseknuckles]

man that sucks....

[motornut]

drove it down the street was gona drive to body shop but something was rubbing/vib in the front called a tow......

going there now

[motornut]

no was for our trailer,
he missed my ga behind it,
my jimmy was in the laneway,
wifes malibu was in the second laneway
he picked the best one to hit......

[motornut]

off it goes
hmmm gaps are different now
gee a good pic to show those hard to get at rivits

[GmtGmt]

well whats plans for it?
part it out? rebuild it?