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Signals in the bumper.
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: East TN
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I need help with my bagged truck woes.
Alright, I have a 81 Silverado with a complete AirRde Technologies system and I am using the 2-way RidePro unit. Its also four-linked.
Now my woes are that the truck sits crooked (especially when I am in it) and it handles like a dingy in a hurricane. It really, really bugs me and is a major part of the reason that I put less than 4k on it a year if its lucky. I have to take it easy when approaching a turn cause it feels like it is going to tip over from the air transfer. I have put it on pavement and measured all the brackets and they are all equal distance from the ground. I really like my truck, but when I see it sitting crooked in the driveway it bums me out big time. So my question is how can I fix this? I know that I could probabley upgrade to the newest ART stuff, but they are really expensive. Is there another 2-way manifold (with check valves or something to prevent air transfer) out there that I can get for a reasonable price that I can use with my existing lines and such? Or maybe a 4-way mani that I could get? Suggestions welcomed. ![]()
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Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Clinton Utah
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Does your truck have a front sway bar?
I don't have a sway bar on mine, it doesn't sit crooked, but it does lean when cornering. Does you truck look crooked all of the time, or just aired up?
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Louisville KY
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The main thing you need is to have a valve for each wheel. If each wheel has its own valve there is no way to transfer air side to side.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
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You could get another 2-way unit & run one for the front & the other for the rear. This will eliminate the transfer of air from bag-to bag/side-to side during cornering. If you don't have a front sway-bar, get one asap. .... if you do have a stock sway-bar, step up to urethane bushings.
I use the 2-way for my beater68 for the rears & it works great & was cheaper as well. Hope this helps.
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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are you running shocks?
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I found that running a 4-way system without a sway bar handles similar to a 2-way system with a sway bar. A 4-way system with a sway bar seemed to be a bit too stiff for my liking.
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: huntington,texas,united states
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so slammed are you not running a sway bar on the 67?
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: NorCal
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A couple of things:
1. You should install (If you currently don't have one) an aftermarket front anti-sway bar. Hellwig makes great bars for all vehicles. 2. The only way to correct the ride height issue (lean) is to upgrade to a 4-way setup. That way you can control the air pressure in each individual bag. This will also make for great handling---A world of a difference from your current 2-way setup. ![]()
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
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orange72, no I'm not running a sway bar on my truck. I had installed the Early Classic 1-1/4" bar, but that along with the bags made it too stiff, in my opinion. The 4-way bag system cotrols the lean just fine.
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Signals in the bumper.
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: East TN
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Yes, I do have shocks (ART drop shocks) and oem front sway bar w/ tired, old bushings. Also, I believe tha the sway bar is bent too cause it is a pita to put it. It does not sit crooked when all the way down cause the front crossmember rests on the ground and the axle rests on the c-notchs, which are parallel to each other. Any other thoughts?
I think that I will start by removing the swaybar and see if the truck staightens back out. Thanks a lot for the help.
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Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: coatesville pa
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to control the lean you need a 4 way valve system. That way you can put some air in each bag as needed plus there will be no air transfer between bags when cornering. I have a 2 path on my 2000 sonoma and i have no problems with it....but i guess alll trucks are not the same. Also when you have it aired up...it will lean on the drivers side...espacially with the gas tank on the same side. Thats alot of weight...its dosnt matter what it looks like driving as long as she is laid out and flat in the parking lot!
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Hey, wait a second..... to some people it does matter how it looks going down the road, and how it rides.
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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It matters to me!!!!! Don't wanna look like some hooptie rollin' down the road with a gangsta lean!
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Signals in the bumper.
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: East TN
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BTW zr8td2k, I have a fuel cell in the bed...no saddle tank for me. ![]()
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Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Arizona
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re:repairing the "lean"
If it is leaning to the left try having a fat girl ride with you in the passenger seat. That should do it.
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Signals in the bumper.
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: East TN
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Yea, I'm going to have to find one of those...
![]() It will probably be cheaper to just upgrade to a 4-way system though. ![]()
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Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link |
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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My Rides 1967 C10 In Pieces for now ![]() 1985 Ford B700 SourPuss Bus - BIG BLUE 2003 Silverado CITY WORKER YELLOW!! |
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I Love This Stuff!
Join Date: May 2002
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...that reminded me of this
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My Rides 1967 C10 In Pieces for now ![]() 1985 Ford B700 SourPuss Bus - BIG BLUE 2003 Silverado CITY WORKER YELLOW!! |
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Tennessee, Morristown
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Hey BAGGED81 I live in White Pine Where are you at in Dandridge?
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Signals in the bumper.
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: East TN
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Our property backs up to the interstate at exit 415.
Where you at?
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Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link |
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Signals in the bumper.
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: East TN
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How much did it cost you to upgrade and what did it include?
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Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link |
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That includes the second manifold and valves, a fitting to tie the two manifolds together for the air supply side, and a second wiring harness, gauge, panel, and switches. Kenneth
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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a cheap fix would be to use the 2 way for the
front and then get 2 manual valves for the rear. I don't know to much aboot this stuff though so I could be wrong. Wouldn't 4 manual valves be the cheapest by far and offer the same control as a 4 way ride pro setup? no wiring then either. Jesse
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Signals in the bumper.
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: East TN
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But I would not be able to adjust it on the go form the cab, right? Or am I not understanding you?
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Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link |
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