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bagged81 · 02-28-2003, 07:18 PM

Alright, I have a 81 Silverado with a complete AirRde Technologies system and I am using the 2-way RidePro unit. Its also four-linked.

Now my woes are that the truck sits crooked (especially when I am in it) and it handles like a dingy in a hurricane. It really, really bugs me and is a major part of the reason that I put less than 4k on it a year if its lucky. I have to take it easy when approaching a turn cause it feels like it is going to tip over from the air transfer. I have put it on pavement and measured all the brackets and they are all equal distance from the ground. I really like my truck, but when I see it sitting crooked in the driveway it bums me out big time.

So my question is how can I fix this? I know that I could probabley upgrade to the newest ART stuff, but they are really expensive. Is there another 2-way manifold (with check valves or something to prevent air transfer) out there that I can get for a reasonable price that I can use with my existing lines and such? Or maybe a 4-way mani that I could get? Suggestions welcomed.

bagged78 · 02-28-2003, 08:42 PM

Does your truck have a front sway bar?
I don't have a sway bar on mine, it doesn't sit crooked, but it does lean when cornering.
Does you truck look crooked all of the time, or just aired up?

phantom dually · 02-28-2003, 09:04 PM

The main thing you need is to have a valve for each wheel. If each wheel has its own valve there is no way to transfer air side to side.

SCOTI · 02-28-2003, 09:47 PM

You could get another 2-way unit & run one for the front & the other for the rear. This will eliminate the transfer of air from bag-to bag/side-to side during cornering. If you don't have a front sway-bar, get one asap. .... if you do have a stock sway-bar, step up to urethane bushings.

I use the 2-way for my beater68 for the rears & it works great & was cheaper as well. Hope this helps.

lotik · 02-28-2003, 10:36 PM

are you running shocks?

Slammed67 · 03-01-2003, 04:18 PM

I found that running a 4-way system without a sway bar handles similar to a 2-way system with a sway bar. A 4-way system with a sway bar seemed to be a bit too stiff for my liking.

orange72 · 03-02-2003, 01:08 AM

so slammed are you not running a sway bar on the 67?

BaggedC10 · 03-02-2003, 02:58 AM

A couple of things:

1. You should install (If you currently don't have one) an aftermarket front anti-sway bar. Hellwig makes great bars for all vehicles.

2. The only way to correct the ride height issue (lean) is to upgrade to a 4-way setup. That way you can control the air pressure in each individual bag. This will also make for great handling---A world of a difference from your current 2-way setup.

Slammed67 · 03-03-2003, 01:24 AM

orange72, no I'm not running a sway bar on my truck. I had installed the Early Classic 1-1/4" bar, but that along with the bags made it too stiff, in my opinion. The 4-way bag system cotrols the lean just fine.

bagged81 · 03-03-2003, 12:29 PM

Yes, I do have shocks (ART drop shocks) and oem front sway bar w/ tired, old bushings. Also, I believe tha the sway bar is bent too cause it is a pita to put it. It does not sit crooked when all the way down cause the front crossmember rests on the ground and the axle rests on the c-notchs, which are parallel to each other. Any other thoughts?

I think that I will start by removing the swaybar and see if the truck staightens back out.

Thanks a lot for the help.

zr8td2k · 03-11-2003, 01:14 PM

to control the lean you need a 4 way valve system. That way you can put some air in each bag as needed plus there will be no air transfer between bags when cornering. I have a 2 path on my 2000 sonoma and i have no problems with it....but i guess alll trucks are not the same. Also when you have it aired up...it will lean on the drivers side...espacially with the gas tank on the same side. Thats alot of weight...its dosnt matter what it looks like driving as long as she is laid out and flat in the parking lot!

SCOTI · 03-11-2003, 05:51 PM

Hey, wait a second..... to some people it does matter how it looks going down the road, and how it rides.

Slammed67 · 03-11-2003, 09:49 PM

It matters to me!!!!! Don't wanna look like some hooptie rollin' down the road with a gangsta lean!

bagged81 · 03-12-2003, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slammed67
It matters to me!!!!! Don't wanna look like some hooptie rollin' down the road with a gangsta lean!

ROFLMAO!!! Exactly!

BTW zr8td2k, I have a fuel cell in the bed...no saddle tank for me.

79GMC454C35 · 03-23-2003, 11:55 PM

If it is leaning to the left try having a fat girl ride with you in the passenger seat. That should do it.

bagged81 · 03-24-2003, 04:12 PM

Yea, I'm going to have to find one of those...

It will probably be cheaper to just upgrade to a 4-way system though.

JHickson6 · 03-24-2003, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bagged81
Yea, I'm going to have to find one of those...

It will probably be cheaper to just upgrade to a 4-way system though.

aaaahahahaha LMAO

JHickson6 · 03-24-2003, 05:55 PM

...that reminded me of this

RACING29 · 03-24-2003, 09:08 PM

Hey BAGGED81 I live in White Pine Where are you at in Dandridge?

bagged81 · 03-25-2003, 12:51 PM

Our property backs up to the interstate at exit 415.

Where you at?

XXL · 03-31-2003, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slammed67
orange72, no I'm not running a sway bar on my truck. I had installed the Early Classic 1-1/4" bar, but that along with the bags made it too stiff, in my opinion. The 4-way bag system cotrols the lean just fine.

Ditto. I started with 2-way RidePro and the lean would rub the rear tires on the step bed wall. 4-way has zero problems.

Kenneth

bagged81 · 04-01-2003, 05:59 PM

How much did it cost you to upgrade and what did it include?

XXL · 04-01-2003, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bagged81
How much did it cost you to upgrade and what did it include?

Upgrading from 2-way to 4-way RidePro is currently $399.00

That includes the second manifold and valves, a fitting to tie the two manifolds together for the air supply side, and a second wiring harness, gauge, panel, and switches.

Kenneth

Jesse 67 c-10 · 04-04-2003, 01:11 PM

a cheap fix would be to use the 2 way for the
front and then get 2 manual valves for the rear. I don't know to much aboot this stuff though so I could be wrong. Wouldn't 4 manual valves be the cheapest by far and offer the same control as a 4 way ride pro setup? no wiring then either.
Jesse

bagged81 · 04-04-2003, 02:39 PM

But I would not be able to adjust it on the go form the cab, right? Or am I not understanding you?

02-28-2003, 07:18 PM	#1
bagged81 Signals in the bumper. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East TN Posts: 856	I need help with my bagged truck woes. Alright, I have a 81 Silverado with a complete AirRde Technologies system and I am using the 2-way RidePro unit. Its also four-linked. Now my woes are that the truck sits crooked (especially when I am in it) and it handles like a dingy in a hurricane. It really, really bugs me and is a major part of the reason that I put less than 4k on it a year if its lucky. I have to take it easy when approaching a turn cause it feels like it is going to tip over from the air transfer. I have put it on pavement and measured all the brackets and they are all equal distance from the ground. I really like my truck, but when I see it sitting crooked in the driveway it bums me out big time. So my question is how can I fix this? I know that I could probabley upgrade to the newest ART stuff, but they are really expensive. Is there another 2-way manifold (with check valves or something to prevent air transfer) out there that I can get for a reasonable price that I can use with my existing lines and such? Or maybe a 4-way mani that I could get? Suggestions welcomed. __________________ Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link

02-28-2003, 08:42 PM	#2
bagged78 world class smart ass! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Clinton Utah Posts: 335	Does your truck have a front sway bar? I don't have a sway bar on mine, it doesn't sit crooked, but it does lean when cornering. Does you truck look crooked all of the time, or just aired up? __________________ Aric 75 2WD BLAZER (never ending project) -some day maybe- 02 2500HD CREW CAB 4X (daily drive) -8" lift 37s and 22s- ____ ____________________________

02-28-2003, 09:04 PM	#3
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,793	The main thing you need is to have a valve for each wheel. If each wheel has its own valve there is no way to transfer air side to side. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

02-28-2003, 09:47 PM	#4
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,977	You could get another 2-way unit & run one for the front & the other for the rear. This will eliminate the transfer of air from bag-to bag/side-to side during cornering. If you don't have a front sway-bar, get one asap. .... if you do have a stock sway-bar, step up to urethane bushings. I use the 2-way for my beater68 for the rears & it works great & was cheaper as well. Hope this helps. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

02-28-2003, 10:36 PM	#5
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	are you running shocks? __________________ negative camber //LA\\

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Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	I found that running a 4-way system without a sway bar handles similar to a 2-way system with a sway bar. A 4-way system with a sway bar seemed to be a bit too stiff for my liking. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

03-02-2003, 01:08 AM	#7
orange72 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: huntington,texas,united states Posts: 399	so slammed are you not running a sway bar on the 67? __________________ 1972 chevy long bed. Currently under construction!! Bagged, 383/700r4.

03-02-2003, 02:58 AM	#8
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	A couple of things: 1. You should install (If you currently don't have one) an aftermarket front anti-sway bar. Hellwig makes great bars for all vehicles. 2. The only way to correct the ride height issue (lean) is to upgrade to a 4-way setup. That way you can control the air pressure in each individual bag. This will also make for great handling---A world of a difference from your current 2-way setup. __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold

03-03-2003, 01:24 AM	#9
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	orange72, no I'm not running a sway bar on my truck. I had installed the Early Classic 1-1/4" bar, but that along with the bags made it too stiff, in my opinion. The 4-way bag system cotrols the lean just fine. __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

03-03-2003, 12:29 PM	#10
bagged81 Signals in the bumper. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East TN Posts: 856	Yes, I do have shocks (ART drop shocks) and oem front sway bar w/ tired, old bushings. Also, I believe tha the sway bar is bent too cause it is a pita to put it. It does not sit crooked when all the way down cause the front crossmember rests on the ground and the axle rests on the c-notchs, which are parallel to each other. Any other thoughts? I think that I will start by removing the swaybar and see if the truck staightens back out. Thanks a lot for the help. __________________ Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link

03-11-2003, 01:14 PM	#11
zr8td2k Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: coatesville pa Posts: 13	to control the lean you need a 4 way valve system. That way you can put some air in each bag as needed plus there will be no air transfer between bags when cornering. I have a 2 path on my 2000 sonoma and i have no problems with it....but i guess alll trucks are not the same. Also when you have it aired up...it will lean on the drivers side...espacially with the gas tank on the same side. Thats alot of weight...its dosnt matter what it looks like driving as long as she is laid out and flat in the parking lot! __________________ ~EXCLUSIVE STYLES~

03-11-2003, 05:51 PM	#12
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,977	Hey, wait a second..... to some people it does matter how it looks going down the road, and how it rides. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

03-11-2003, 09:49 PM	#13
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	It matters to me!!!!! Don't wanna look like some hooptie rollin' down the road with a gangsta lean! __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

03-23-2003, 11:55 PM	#15
79GMC454C35 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arizona Posts: 115	re:repairing the "lean" If it is leaning to the left try having a fat girl ride with you in the passenger seat. That should do it.

03-24-2003, 04:12 PM	#16
bagged81 Signals in the bumper. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East TN Posts: 856	Yea, I'm going to have to find one of those... It will probably be cheaper to just upgrade to a 4-way system though. __________________ Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link



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03-25-2003, 12:51 PM	#20
bagged81 Signals in the bumper. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East TN Posts: 856	Our property backs up to the interstate at exit 415. Where you at? __________________ Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link

04-01-2003, 05:59 PM	#22
bagged81 Signals in the bumper. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East TN Posts: 856	How much did it cost you to upgrade and what did it include? __________________ Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link

04-04-2003, 01:11 PM	#24
Jesse 67 c-10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 599	a cheap fix would be to use the 2 way for the front and then get 2 manual valves for the rear. I don't know to much aboot this stuff though so I could be wrong. Wouldn't 4 manual valves be the cheapest by far and offer the same control as a 4 way ride pro setup? no wiring then either. Jesse __________________ Edmonton, Alberta, 67 c-10, Long fleet, front disks, 5 lug rear end, 327 with Vortechs, edlbrock manifold, comp cams XE 256, 600cfm carb. Backed by a getrag 5 speed and 1 piece driveshaft. 1993 Dihatsu Hijet Jumbo cab 4x4, currently converting to battery electric power.

04-04-2003, 02:39 PM	#25
bagged81 Signals in the bumper. Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: East TN Posts: 856	But I would not be able to adjust it on the go form the cab, right? Or am I not understanding you? __________________ Jeff C. 1981 Chevrolet Silverado - Under major construction...again. link 1962 Chevrolet Impala 4D Sedan moredoorclassics.com 1936 Ford Pickup - Frame-off in progress link 1979 Chevrolet Camper Special Flatbed link

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