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Old 11-12-2010, 08:51 PM   #1
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what track bar

hey fellas. i got the 66 lowered 3/5 right now and im having a small problem with axle placement. i know i need a new track bar but im unsure of wich one to get. brothers has a 24 inch and an adjustable that they say is ment for trucks lowered 4 inches or more. mcgaughys also has an adjustable track bar. what are yall runnin? right now my track bar is parrallel with the axle so its pushed it out to the passenger side pretty far. thanks for the help!
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Old 11-12-2010, 08:57 PM   #2
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Re: what track bar

I like the Super Track Bar from ECE, (Early Classic Enterprises).
It's extra long to limit lateral axle movement.
They also come powdercoated.
Check out www.earlyclassic.com.
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I like the Super Track Bar from ECE, (Early Classic Enterprises).
It's extra long to limit lateral axle movement.
They also come powdercoated.
Check out www.earlyclassic.com.
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Old 11-12-2010, 11:59 PM   #4
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Re: what track bar

thanks for the help guys. think this same one will work if i go any lower?
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Old 11-13-2010, 12:00 AM   #5
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Old 11-13-2010, 12:39 PM   #6
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Re: what track bar

awesome. thank!
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:40 PM   #7
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Just bookmarking, gonna need one of these too. Thanks
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hey how do these install am i supposed to drop the truck to its lowest point or ride height. When its aired out the drivers side fender hits the tire thanks, Tony

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Old 11-17-2010, 10:30 PM   #9
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hey how do these install am i supposed to drop the truck to its lowest point or ride height. When its aired out the drivers side fender hits the tire thanks, Tony
I beleive your looking to adjust at a happy medium between your lowest drop point adjust to clear and as close to center ( wheels in fenders) at your ride height.
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hey how do these install am i supposed to drop the truck to its lowest point or ride height. When its aired out the drivers side fender hits the tire thanks, Tony
I believe your looking to adjust at a happy medium between your lowest drop point adjust to clear and as close to center ( wheels in fenders) at your ride height.
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:47 AM   #11
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John you don't know how much we appreciate you bringing your engineering skills to bear on some of this issues!! Always great to hear from you.

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Old 11-19-2010, 06:55 PM   #12
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Assuming a horizontal track bar at ride height:
Well yes, that's the secret ingredient. Look at real world trucks with suspension modifications and see just how many of them actually have the track bar horizontal at ride height. Once you get away from horizontal, the amount of lateral displacement starts increasing quite rapidly.

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Re: what track bar

I installed the rearend centered at ride height.
The Super Track bar is much longer than the original panhard bar,... and should help with side-to-side movement.
I think mine only shift 3/8" when I air out the bags.
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Re: what track bar

cpp has this one on ebay for $109
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Old 01-20-2011, 08:59 AM   #15
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Re: what track bar

Here is one for $59 bucks!

Early Classics
P/N 912-6572PB
Adjustable panhard bar kit
'65-'72 C-10 w/Bushings
http://www.earlyclassic.com/catalog.aspx
Under "Choose Catagory" Select "Panhard Bars"


And one other note: For a "Static" dropped truck you do not need a "Super Track Bar", there simply isn't enough suspension travel to justify it. You just need an adjustable track bar to dial the rear end back over to the center.

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Old 02-05-2011, 10:46 PM   #16
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Re: what track bar

I'm having a difficult time finding the trailing arm kit that uses the trailing arm for the lower mounting bracket for a 3/4 ton truck. Lots of kits for 3" axles, but can't find one for 3-3/8" axle tube.
The inner diameter of my u-bolt is 3-1/2"
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:16 AM   #17
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Are you wanting to mount your panhard bar to the passenger side trailing arm mount?

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I'm having a difficult time finding the trailing arm kit that uses the trailing arm for the lower mounting bracket for a 3/4 ton truck. Lots of kits for 3" axles, but can't find one for 3-3/8" axle tube.
The inner diameter of my u-bolt is 3-1/2"
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Old 02-06-2011, 01:26 AM   #18
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Re: what track bar

Not necassarily.

I've seen posts by you where you suggest just cutting the panhard bracket off the Eaton.
That was my plan all along. I have a local spring guy that will be making my new U-Bolts for $17.50 ea. Both sides bolts, nuts, and washers for $35.
I was going to wait until I got your perches before I get them.

But I started thinking about maybe just getting the adjustable panhard/trackbar kit where you get the u-bolts and all. - just researching - that's all.

I just find it interesting that the 3/4 ton stuff is so limited.
Even the U-bolts aren't as easily found as for the 1/2 ton trucks.
LMC is the only one I've found so far that actually lists 3-1/2" u-bolts for C20's

Like I said, I'll most likely just cut the panhard bracket off the eaton, I just started thinking if there was a kit, that even included the u-bolts, it may save me some work.
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Yes I understand the desire to just buy a kit with everything needed. But as you said, there really isn't a kit for the C20's. Especially not for switching to a 14 bolt rear differential.
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Someday, maybe.
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It's a definite possibility.

I know someone that can make the trailing arm mounts

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Well, Ray, here is the original post:
And my 65, that has 5" lowering springs, also has the track bar level at ride height. I checked it with my magnetic angle finder before I made the CAD models I posted above.

That's (2) "real world trucks", a '66 and a '65, both with "modified suspensions" ...... and it addresses exactly what the original post asked.

A well designed rear suspension will locate the track bar as close to level as possible at ride height.

If anybody that has a Super Track Bar would check the angle it is at at ride height and post the numbers I can run actual numbers for it also.
I`ll have to check mine John and let you know, I think mine is level from what I remember.
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