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RACING29 · 03-03-2003, 10:12 PM

Any body have any bags they wanna sell cheap? Also WHat would it take to get it to lay frame? I already have a 4/6 early classics drop kit on it. Thanks DeWayne

orange72 · 03-04-2003, 01:27 AM

it would take a good notch in the rear to get close but these old trucks wont exactly lay frame. the front crossmember sits to low.

RACING29 · 03-04-2003, 05:02 PM

How big would I have to notch the front crossmember? THANKS

orange72 · 03-05-2003, 01:03 AM

on that im not sure. theres some guys around the board that are doing or are in the process of doing a crossmember notch. i recently got my swb base frame back from the ag shop that i did a 3 inch body drop on and about 6 or 7 inch c-notch on and the frame gets around 2 to 3 inches off the ground with the crossmeber layed out. with the body drop though it will lay rockers.

RACING29 · 03-10-2003, 12:12 AM

TTT

phantom dually · 03-14-2003, 09:50 PM

I recently installed a lowered crossmember and it brings the member up 2" into the frame rails. There is alot involved in doing this as the member must be clearenced at the front to clear all steering parts as well as the top to notch it. I bought my member from turner fabrication in California. He has alot of truck stuff 67-up. Give him a call at 909-926-1729 or go to www.turnerrodsntrucks.com Ask for Bill. Tell him James from Kentucky sent you.

70 Jimmy · 03-15-2003, 11:37 AM

I believe the turner crossmember is a 1.25" notch. Unless your using a different pitman arm (which may be), it wouldn't clear the A arm. I notched my crossmember 1.5" and I'm having trouble with the inner ball joint not clearing the lower A arm because it's closer to the pitman arm. I need to raise the steering box .25". If I had it to do over again, I'd notch only 1.25"

phantom dually · 03-16-2003, 10:42 PM

Hey 70 Jimmy can you post some pics of your problem here so I can see if I will encounter these as well?? Thanks

phantom dually · 03-16-2003, 10:57 PM

By the way you are right the crossmember is 1.25" instead of my wrong idea of 2". I dont know where I got that from.

70 Jimmy · 03-16-2003, 11:11 PM

I won't be able to post pics soon but I'll try and explain in detail here. If I remember right you are going with tubular a arms, right?

Anyway. the inner tierod ball joint hits the lower A arm where it sticks out from the crossmember. There is a large hex cap bushing, called the "end nut-shaft" in the LMC catalog and it hits just above that. I'll try to post pics when I get out to the shop next weekend.

I think that you have a chance of not hitting it for 2 reasons. One there is a great amount of variation in these parts from the factory and the other is the fact that you are using tubular A arms.

It's not that big of a deal to move the steering box up if you have some fab experience. My plan is to slot the holes. On the upper foward bolt hole, that won't leave me enough room to put a hex head bolt below the upper frame (top of the "C") so I'm going to raise that part of the frame up. Kinda like a C notch but only the upper part of the frame rail. I don't think all of this will cause any other issues to come up but that's what makes it fun.

phantom dually · 03-17-2003, 09:09 PM

Would it be easier to make a spacer plate to go in between the frame and the member to get you where you want to be??

phantom dually · 03-17-2003, 09:10 PM

Yes I am going with tube a arms.

70 Jimmy · 03-17-2003, 10:50 PM

Yup, but I'm not going to give up that easy. Call me hard headed but I can make this work. Besides, it's about the trip, not the destination. Oh, and spacer = rust.

phantom dually · 03-18-2003, 07:59 PM

Good luck with it. Let us know how it goes.

lost wages · 03-20-2003, 02:56 AM

you can use a steering box from a van and it will clear, they sit back further.

70 Jimmy · 03-21-2003, 09:04 PM

Raised the upper frame rail up about .5". I'll finish cleaning up the slotted holes and see if it works. I should have some pics tomorrow.

03-03-2003, 10:12 PM	#1
RACING29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tennessee, Morristown Posts: 355	Good deals on bags??? Any body have any bags they wanna sell cheap? Also WHat would it take to get it to lay frame? I already have a 4/6 early classics drop kit on it. Thanks DeWayne

03-04-2003, 01:27 AM	#2
orange72 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: huntington,texas,united states Posts: 399	it would take a good notch in the rear to get close but these old trucks wont exactly lay frame. the front crossmember sits to low. __________________ 1972 chevy long bed. Currently under construction!! Bagged, 383/700r4.

03-04-2003, 05:02 PM	#3
RACING29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tennessee, Morristown Posts: 355	How big would I have to notch the front crossmember? THANKS __________________ 1967 Chevy truck, R1 racing seats, 4 point racing harness, 4/6 drop, primered blue, soon to be shaved, 350- 060. over, flat top pistons, Eagle rods, Edelbrock Aluminum heads, 1.5 Scorpion roller rockers, Lunati 515" cam, mallory ignition, Holley 750 double pumper carb, Built 350 turbo trans, 2500-2800 boss hog stall, 20 gallon aluminum fuel cell!!!

03-05-2003, 01:03 AM	#4
orange72 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: huntington,texas,united states Posts: 399	on that im not sure. theres some guys around the board that are doing or are in the process of doing a crossmember notch. i recently got my swb base frame back from the ag shop that i did a 3 inch body drop on and about 6 or 7 inch c-notch on and the frame gets around 2 to 3 inches off the ground with the crossmeber layed out. with the body drop though it will lay rockers. __________________ 1972 chevy long bed. Currently under construction!! Bagged, 383/700r4.

03-10-2003, 12:12 AM	#5
RACING29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tennessee, Morristown Posts: 355	TTT __________________ 1967 Chevy truck, R1 racing seats, 4 point racing harness, 4/6 drop, primered blue, soon to be shaved, 350- 060. over, flat top pistons, Eagle rods, Edelbrock Aluminum heads, 1.5 Scorpion roller rockers, Lunati 515" cam, mallory ignition, Holley 750 double pumper carb, Built 350 turbo trans, 2500-2800 boss hog stall, 20 gallon aluminum fuel cell!!!

03-14-2003, 09:50 PM	#6
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	I recently installed a lowered crossmember and it brings the member up 2" into the frame rails. There is alot involved in doing this as the member must be clearenced at the front to clear all steering parts as well as the top to notch it. I bought my member from turner fabrication in California. He has alot of truck stuff 67-up. Give him a call at 909-926-1729 or go to www.turnerrodsntrucks.com Ask for Bill. Tell him James from Kentucky sent you. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

03-15-2003, 11:37 AM	#7
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	I believe the turner crossmember is a 1.25" notch. Unless your using a different pitman arm (which may be), it wouldn't clear the A arm. I notched my crossmember 1.5" and I'm having trouble with the inner ball joint not clearing the lower A arm because it's closer to the pitman arm. I need to raise the steering box .25". If I had it to do over again, I'd notch only 1.25" __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

03-16-2003, 10:42 PM	#8
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Hey 70 Jimmy can you post some pics of your problem here so I can see if I will encounter these as well?? Thanks __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

03-16-2003, 10:57 PM	#9
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	By the way you are right the crossmember is 1.25" instead of my wrong idea of 2". I dont know where I got that from. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

03-16-2003, 11:11 PM	#10
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	I won't be able to post pics soon but I'll try and explain in detail here. If I remember right you are going with tubular a arms, right? Anyway. the inner tierod ball joint hits the lower A arm where it sticks out from the crossmember. There is a large hex cap bushing, called the "end nut-shaft" in the LMC catalog and it hits just above that. I'll try to post pics when I get out to the shop next weekend. I think that you have a chance of not hitting it for 2 reasons. One there is a great amount of variation in these parts from the factory and the other is the fact that you are using tubular A arms. It's not that big of a deal to move the steering box up if you have some fab experience. My plan is to slot the holes. On the upper foward bolt hole, that won't leave me enough room to put a hex head bolt below the upper frame (top of the "C") so I'm going to raise that part of the frame up. Kinda like a C notch but only the upper part of the frame rail. I don't think all of this will cause any other issues to come up but that's what makes it fun. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

03-17-2003, 09:09 PM	#11
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Would it be easier to make a spacer plate to go in between the frame and the member to get you where you want to be?? __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

03-17-2003, 09:10 PM	#12
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Yes I am going with tube a arms. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

03-17-2003, 10:50 PM	#13
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	Yup, but I'm not going to give up that easy. Call me hard headed but I can make this work. Besides, it's about the trip, not the destination. Oh, and spacer = rust. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

03-18-2003, 07:59 PM	#14
phantom dually Project92 SWB stepside Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 4,792	Good luck with it. Let us know how it goes. __________________ 92 C1500 stepside 496 Stroker Competiton Engineering Ladder bars/QA1 coilovers. Dana 60 rear with 4.10 gear and posi. Bonspeed Palisade 20x12 in rear w/335/30/20 and 20x8.5 front w/245/40/20. 5/8 drop with Belltech springs/DJM spindles/drop shocks. WWS Progress thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=140448

03-20-2003, 02:56 AM	#15
lost wages Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: jefferson city, mo Posts: 1,364	you can use a steering box from a van and it will clear, they sit back further.



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03-21-2003, 09:04 PM	#16
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	Raised the upper frame rail up about .5". I'll finish cleaning up the slotted holes and see if it works. I should have some pics tomorrow. __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"

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