Color of bow tie on hub caps?

[Dieselwrencher]

I have been putting my truck together and I just remembered there are 2 different colors for the bow tie on the center of the hub cabs for 3/4 tons. Are 71 and 72's blue, and 69-70's yellow, and 67-68's red? Or does each color go for a different trim level excluding 67 and 68? I'm just curious more than anything.

[71 super]

67-68 =red
69-72 = blue
73-Up = yellow

[SWEET7T]

Originally Posted by 71 super

67-68 =red
69-72 = blue
73-Up = yellow

I was going to say that the 69-70 had yellow bowties. I'm leaning this direction only because the hub caps that I got with my '70 from my aunt are yellow (white caps with black cog and yellow bowtie).

[sameyrasmea72]

Originally Posted by SWEET7T

I was going to say that the 69-70 had yellow bowties. I'm leaning this direction only because the hub caps that I got with my '70 from my aunt are yellow (white caps with black cog and yellow bowtie).

You see a lot of yellow bowties on all years 67-72, because they fit and look good, but they have been switched sometime in the last 40 years. All yellow caps originally came on 73 and newer trucks.

[too much stuff]

Originally Posted by sameyrasmea72

You see a lot of yellow bowties on all years 67-72, because they fit and look good, but they have been switched sometime in the last 40 years. All yellow caps originally came on 73 and newer trucks.

I agree...

[SWEET7T]

Originally Posted by sameyrasmea72

All yellow caps originally came on 73 and newer trucks.

This is what I have... So now I'm confused!

[too much stuff]

Originally Posted by SWEET7T

This is what I have... So now I'm confused!

Those are 73 and newer...

[Duncan and son]

Originally Posted by sameyrasmea72

You see a lot of yellow bowties on all years 67-72, because they fit and look good, but they have been switched sometime in the last 40 years. All yellow caps originally came on 73 and newer trucks.

Jason is Right... The person dealing with facts is never at the mercy of the person dealing with theory.

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by sameyrasmea72

You see a lot of yellow bowties on all years 67-72, because they fit and look good, but they have been switched sometime in the last 40 years. All yellow caps originally came on 73 and newer trucks.

Ok, let's take this one step farther. I have a set of the 69-72 chevy hub caps that the bow tie is painted yellow. They are faded and need restored. They look like they have never been repainted or anything. From the info in this thread, the 69-72 hub caps were used on 73-75's but with yellow bow ties instead of blue bow ties. Is this correct? This may help others clarify where their caps came from as well.

[sameyrasmea72]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

Ok, let's take this one step farther. I have a set of the 69-72 chevy hub caps that the bow tie is painted yellow. They are faded and need restored. They look like they have never been repainted or anything. From the info in this thread, the 69-72 hub caps were used on 73-75's but with yellow bow ties instead of blue bow ties. Is this correct? This may help others clarify where their caps came from as well.

I am not sure on the styles(actual shape) of the hub caps. I put full wheel covers on almost every truck I buy/sell. The only thing I know (maybe) is that GM did not start using the yellow trim on parts untill 1973. But I bet you are right, the 72 style caps probably went past 72 but had yellow trim. Probably too, if someone bought replacement caps after 72, I bet they were yellow.

[CPA-DVM]

The first is an example of what a 69-72 hubcap looks like - Blue bowtie with black circle and ring (this is a 3/4 ton cap). There is a lot more depth to this cap versus the other one. Needed for hub clearance.

The second is the later 70s through 80s style hubcap for a 3/4 ton. The half ton looks similar with only 5 black panels instead of 6.

I don't have a picture of the 67 and 68 caps but they had a red bowtie to match the red bowtie on the grill.

There were painted caps and chrome caps, check your spid to see which you had. There were also full wheel caps, but they were not a dog dish style and look a bit more like car caps of the age.

[special-K]

That last picture is a '76-91 cap. The 73-75 Chevy caps looked like the 69-72s but with yellow bowtie (and on 8-lug caps were concave w/o black in the center). They can be popped out and painted blue w/black. All bowties were blue in 69-72...grille,horn cap,or anywhere else. From '73 on all the bowties were yellow.
In 67/68 there was some variation. There were red accent as well as dark orange. I just can't recall off hand how it went. Dog dishes are hubcaps and full wheel covers are wheel covers.

[chipflyer]

And to add to this discussion I believe that only the 3/4 ton hubcaps were originally popped out. The 1/2 ton caps were all concave, correct?

Jeff

[ls1nova71]

Originally Posted by chipflyer

And to add to this discussion I believe that only the 3/4 ton hubcaps were originally popped out. The 1/2 ton caps were all concave, correct?

Jeff

Yes, but only the blue ones (69-72), the yellow 7e up were all concave.
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[special-K]

Originally Posted by chipflyer

And to add to this discussion I believe that only the 3/4 ton hubcaps were originally popped out. The 1/2 ton caps were all concave, correct?

Jeff

Yes,the 1/2t caps were all concave.

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by special-K

That last picture is a '76-91 cap. The 73-75 Chevy caps looked like the 69-72s but with yellow bowtie (and on 8-lug caps were concave w/o black in the center). They can be popped out and painted blue w/black. All bowties were blue in 69-72...grille,horn cap,or anywhere else. From '73 on all the bowties were yellow.
In 67/68 there was some variation. There were red accent as well as dark orange. I just can't recall off hand how it went. Dog dishes are hubcaps and full wheel covers are wheel covers.

Tim, thanks for the info. I was reading these other posts and going what the heck? I knew I have seen the 69-72 style caps with yellow bow ties and you could tell they were original, not repainted. But now seeing your post, it tells me that these caps with the yellow bow tie came from 73-75 chevys. Thanks again for the help.

[Longhorn Man]

Those white caps look very nice... are they restored or NOS?
They are still wrong, but very nice.

[SWEET7T]

I took the picture from the internet; ebay NOS set. My set isn't it that nice of condition. They are straight but need to be repainted. My rebuild is going to be the 'stock' look (paint stripe and all) so I'm wanting this to be correct... Guess I will be painting the ties blue instead of yellow.

Thank you!

[VA72C10]

Another cool discussion on this board!!!

[Dieselwrencher]

Thanks for the pics Mel!

[Longhorn Man]

now here's a stick to throw in the spokes...
I have a gray hubcap, blue bow tie. It fits on the lug rim, but is too shallow to go over the full floater hub. It looks just like the 3/4 ton ones above, but not as deep. The gray is kind of like a primer dark gray in color, but shiney.
Someone on here back in 04 or so found one NOS in the box just like it. The P/N came up as 69 only.
Any ideas on what it could have been for?
The only thing I can come up with is the optional 6 lug 16 inch rims. But I don't know if the hub cap retaining nubs were the diameter of a 1/2 ton wheel or a 3/4 ton wheel.
I wish I had a photo but I don't, and the cap is in my garage which is not close to here.

[Classic Bowties]

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

now here's a stick to throw in the spokes...
I have a gray hubcap, blue bow tie. It fits on the lug rim, but is too shallow to go over the full floater hub. It looks just like the 3/4 ton ones above, but not as deep. The gray is kind of like a primer dark gray in color, but shiney.
Someone on here back in 04 or so found one NOS in the box just like it. The P/N came up as 69 only.
Any ideas on what it could have been for?
The only thing I can come up with is the optional 6 lug 16 inch rims. But I don't know if the hub cap retaining nubs were the diameter of a 1/2 ton wheel or a 3/4 ton wheel.
I wish I had a photo but I don't, and the cap is in my garage which is not close to here.

The blue bowtie caps picture has a 1/2 ton silver cap (bottom row center) with a blue bowtie and am not sure about the 3/4 ton type as I have never had the silver one to compare but I do know the 69 up 1/2 ton wheels in 15", 16" and even 16.5's use the 10-1/2" inch outer retaining nub type caps. I just took this below reply from another recent thread on the years of bowtie colors link here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444073

The silver caps with blue bowties were were available in both 1/2 and 3/4 ton versions in 1969. I don't know a whole lot about them besides that they were the early 69 model year first design (out before the bright caps) as GM was switching from the other 67/68 style caps, I have only seen these installed on a few trucks and they had matching silver wheels. I will take a look through my original GM brochures and pictures, I remember having a picture of a C/20 when new wearing these caps. Mel

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

now here's a stick to throw in the spokes...
I have a gray hubcap, blue bow tie. It fits on the lug rim, but is too shallow to go over the full floater hub. It looks just like the 3/4 ton ones above, but not as deep. The gray is kind of like a primer dark gray in color, but shiney.
Someone on here back in 04 or so found one NOS in the box just like it. The P/N came up as 69 only.
Any ideas on what it could have been for?

Yes, you are right, that is a very early production '69 3/4 ton hubcap. Somebody in the styling department must have blew it because it would fit the Eaton axle but not clear the Spicer rear axle. They discovered they needed two different hubcap styles to fit the two different rear axles. It looks very similar to a 1/2 ton hubcap but is the larger 12". Instead of using the shallow cap for front axle and Eaton only rear axle trucks, GM standardized on the deeper style all the way around.

[factorystock]

Found a early '69 3/4 ton about 15 years ago at a swap meet. It looks like the original design was to have it look like a 1/2 ton with concave (dished in) center. Top and back photo of the same cap.

[Classic Bowties]

Originally Posted by factorystock

Found a early '69 3/4 ton about 15 years ago at a swap meet. It looks like the original design was to have it look like a 1/2 ton with concave (dished in) center. Top and back photo of the same cap.

This is most likely the reason it's listed in the master parts book as a "first design" early 69 cap while the later designs in both bright and painted were dished out to fit both the eaton and the dana rear axles. Mel