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coastierider · 03-10-2011, 12:36 PM

i found a 1961 chevy apache 10 on craigslist, he is asking $3500 for it.. I looked at it and there isnt too much rust overall, but the door sills need to be replaced as well as the wood bed... about 10 years ago he put in a 79 corvette 350 with a borg-warner 4 speed (3speed with a granny gear), here is the link:
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/2250256759.html
any opinions would be greatly appreciated, thanx Matt

k1rodeoboater · 03-10-2011, 12:50 PM

looks good...if you check it out bring a magnet and check the panels for bondo. Inspect the hood really closely for rust. Get under neath it with a flashlight and look for other areas of the cab that are rotted out as well as the cab supports. If the sills are rotted out you're gonna have other things that will need to be fixed

**Clyde65** · 03-10-2011, 01:31 PM

I agree with^^^^

I dont think I would go $3500, even if it doesnt have much rust. I would go $2500.00 maybe, just because of the age of the motor and it's purple and the paint job isnt very good.

Also to add, some people painting cars/trucks to cover up poor rust/damage repairs, so be very thorough with your inspection.

cggmoose · 03-10-2011, 02:28 PM

Agreed X3. I just bought a 1964 Stepside and thought it was in good condition until I got it home and inspected it closer.

Let the fun begin.

coastierider · 03-10-2011, 02:41 PM

yeah he actually handed me a magnet when i got there, he told me that the previous owner had used a lil bondo here and there, but he already removed the bondo and showed me where the dents were... as for the paint, it was originally light green or something but it looked like crap so about 15 years ago when he bought it he sprayed it with cheap paint, it's not a big deal im gonna paint it flat black anyhow... he has been upfront with me on everything that i can tell, it is one of many classics he has... and since he's a diesel mechanic im pretty sure he knows what was doing overall.. Yeah the engine is old, but im gonna drop a crate engine in it anyway, it runs good enough for now until i get the new engine...

k1rodeoboater · 03-10-2011, 02:50 PM

oh snap didn't see that it was a 10yr old motor...yeah $2500 would be a lot more reasonable then. I suppose you could rebuild that engine, but you'd have to take that into account with your purchase.

JMHO but it's on the high side at $3500. However if you don't have a tow vehicle or you're dead set on a wrap around windshield then this might not be such a bad deal.

coastierider · 03-10-2011, 02:56 PM

k1rodeoboater · 03-10-2011, 03:23 PM

short list of things you'll need...

Outer rockers
Exterior floor pan (full length more than likely)
Front cab supports

list of things you very well may need
footwells
lower A pillars

You don't have any pictures of the cab corners but I'm willing to bet that they'll have rust as well. There's nothing atypical about the rust damage in those pics, but it's more than what you were intially thinking. You're looking at probably about 800 in rust repair panels, and that's being generous on my part

61_FL_Apache · 03-10-2011, 03:24 PM

You may want to look more closely at the casting numbers on the motor.

The engine I got with my truck was smaller than the PO said it was. They all look the same out the outside and thats why I didnt ask any questions. Once I got it home I crossed the numbers and found that I had a 305. Not a big deal or a deal breaker for me.

creep · 03-10-2011, 05:36 PM

Did 61s have square bodymount bushings or are those blocks of wood?

coastierider · 03-10-2011, 06:15 PM

thanks for the input guys, this is going to be a long term restoration... i was planning on fixing the major rust areas first, then try to stop further corrosion until i get enough money to fix the remainder of the bodywork... and after that, i'll drop a new gm performance crate engine nothing crazy, i dont need 400hp engine in it im not going to be hauling much, just my BUELL.. Down time isnt a large worry for me right now i only live a few miles from where im stationed at..
Any suggestions on crate engine/trans combo's?

k1rodeoboater · 03-10-2011, 07:21 PM

small block or big block?

carbed or injected?

auto or manual?

FI or NA?

gas or diesel?

coastierider · 03-10-2011, 10:10 PM

small block, carb, na, gas, cheap

coastierider · 03-11-2011, 09:10 PM

hopefully a Silver night Phoenix turnkey engine:
They have military discount

mstrav1973 · 03-11-2011, 09:30 PM

I doubt its a corvette 350, if so then mine is a corvette 350 also.

Matt

03-10-2011, 12:36 PM	#1
coastierider Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 23	Newbie requests you expertise i found a 1961 chevy apache 10 on craigslist, he is asking $3500 for it.. I looked at it and there isnt too much rust overall, but the door sills need to be replaced as well as the wood bed... about 10 years ago he put in a 79 corvette 350 with a borg-warner 4 speed (3speed with a granny gear), here is the link: http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/2250256759.html any opinions would be greatly appreciated, thanx Matt

03-10-2011, 12:50 PM	#2
k1rodeoboater Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 752	Re: Newbie requests you expertise looks good...if you check it out bring a magnet and check the panels for bondo. Inspect the hood really closely for rust. Get under neath it with a flashlight and look for other areas of the cab that are rotted out as well as the cab supports. If the sills are rotted out you're gonna have other things that will need to be fixed __________________ 1966 C10 Long step build on a budget http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=445201 no garage, no shop, limited storage space and tools....no problem.

03-10-2011, 01:31 PM	#3
Clyde65 1965 Chevy C10, 2005 4.8L/4l60 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 8,541	Re: Newbie requests you expertise I agree with^^^^ I dont think I would go $3500, even if it doesnt have much rust. I would go $2500.00 maybe, just because of the age of the motor and it's purple and the paint job isnt very good. Also to add, some people painting cars/trucks to cover up poor rust/damage repairs, so be very thorough with your inspection. __________________ Clyde65 Rebuild of Clyde http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post8338184 69 Aristocrat Lo Liner build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...84#post7561684 *support our troops!*

03-10-2011, 02:28 PM	#4
cggmoose Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Katy Texas Posts: 10	Re: Newbie requests you expertise Agreed X3. I just bought a 1964 Stepside and thought it was in good condition until I got it home and inspected it closer. Let the fun begin. __________________ 1964 SWB Stepside

03-10-2011, 02:41 PM	#5
coastierider Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 23	Re: Newbie requests you expertise yeah he actually handed me a magnet when i got there, he told me that the previous owner had used a lil bondo here and there, but he already removed the bondo and showed me where the dents were... as for the paint, it was originally light green or something but it looked like crap so about 15 years ago when he bought it he sprayed it with cheap paint, it's not a big deal im gonna paint it flat black anyhow... he has been upfront with me on everything that i can tell, it is one of many classics he has... and since he's a diesel mechanic im pretty sure he knows what was doing overall.. Yeah the engine is old, but im gonna drop a crate engine in it anyway, it runs good enough for now until i get the new engine...

03-10-2011, 02:50 PM	#6
k1rodeoboater Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 752	Re: Newbie requests you expertise oh snap didn't see that it was a 10yr old motor...yeah $2500 would be a lot more reasonable then. I suppose you could rebuild that engine, but you'd have to take that into account with your purchase. JMHO but it's on the high side at $3500. However if you don't have a tow vehicle or you're dead set on a wrap around windshield then this might not be such a bad deal. __________________ 1966 C10 Long step build on a budget http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=445201 no garage, no shop, limited storage space and tools....no problem.

03-10-2011, 02:56 PM	#7
coastierider Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 23	Re: Newbie requests you expertise

03-10-2011, 03:23 PM	#8
k1rodeoboater Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 752	Re: Newbie requests you expertise short list of things you'll need... Outer rockers Exterior floor pan (full length more than likely) Front cab supports list of things you very well may need footwells lower A pillars You don't have any pictures of the cab corners but I'm willing to bet that they'll have rust as well. There's nothing atypical about the rust damage in those pics, but it's more than what you were intially thinking. You're looking at probably about 800 in rust repair panels, and that's being generous on my part __________________ 1966 C10 Long step build on a budget http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=445201 no garage, no shop, limited storage space and tools....no problem.

03-10-2011, 03:24 PM	#9
61_FL_Apache Who Me? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 4,067	Re: Newbie requests you expertise You may want to look more closely at the casting numbers on the motor. The engine I got with my truck was smaller than the PO said it was. They all look the same out the outside and thats why I didnt ask any questions. Once I got it home I crossed the numbers and found that I had a 305. Not a big deal or a deal breaker for me. __________________ Steve 1997 Tahoe LT 4D 2WD (DD) 2001 Blazer 4D 2WD 1961 Apache 10 (sold) 1965 C10 Stepper (sold)

03-10-2011, 05:36 PM	#10
creep Registered Loser Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Elyria, OH Posts: 1,523	Re: Newbie requests you expertise Did 61s have square bodymount bushings or are those blocks of wood? __________________ ((..)) ((0)) '63 GMC lwb, 383, th350, lays frame, genuine patina. The Build Thread - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=374267 '88 Astro cargo bagged, shaved, phantom grille. SOLD '50 Chevy 2 door sedan awaiting attention. 2014 Silverado Ext cab, 5.3, daily driver.

03-10-2011, 06:15 PM	#11
coastierider Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 23	Re: Newbie requests you expertise thanks for the input guys, this is going to be a long term restoration... i was planning on fixing the major rust areas first, then try to stop further corrosion until i get enough money to fix the remainder of the bodywork... and after that, i'll drop a new gm performance crate engine nothing crazy, i dont need 400hp engine in it im not going to be hauling much, just my BUELL.. Down time isnt a large worry for me right now i only live a few miles from where im stationed at.. Any suggestions on crate engine/trans combo's?

03-10-2011, 07:21 PM	#12
k1rodeoboater Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 752	Re: Newbie requests you expertise small block or big block? carbed or injected? auto or manual? FI or NA? gas or diesel? __________________ 1966 C10 Long step build on a budget http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=445201 no garage, no shop, limited storage space and tools....no problem.

03-10-2011, 10:10 PM	#13
coastierider Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 23	Re: Newbie requests you expertise small block, carb, na, gas, cheap Last edited by coastierider; 03-11-2011 at 09:09 PM.

03-11-2011, 09:10 PM	#14
coastierider Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: United States Posts: 23	Re: Newbie requests you expertise hopefully a Silver night Phoenix turnkey engine: They have military discount

03-11-2011, 09:30 PM	#15
mstrav1973 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Meridian, Idaho Posts: 321	Re: Newbie requests you expertise I doubt its a corvette 350, if so then mine is a corvette 350 also. Matt __________________ 72 chevy k-10, swb, auto, 35's, rally's, posi, 4" lift, 2.5" old style 40 series flows with headers and crossover pipe and some other stuff!!



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