Got a coil spring question for you guys

[Miller92]

I got some coil spring spacers and when I went to put them on today I realized my springs didn't look right? I got the best pics I could, are these lowering springs or have they been heated up? Or did the 1/2 tons come stock with these?

Thanks

[67swb72klb]

i cant see the pics ?

[Miller92]

Yea it might help if I upload them huh? lol my bad

[Stubnosebrock]

Nope they are just fine. Stock springs im sure. I believe they are a multi rate spring. Someone correct me if im wrong on that. But your springs are fine

[ChiefRocka]

No sir, those springs have met the heat from a torch....

I seen and heated plenty in my time !!

[lakeroadster]

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

No sir, those springs have met the heat from a torch....

I seen and heated plenty in my time !!

Agreed.

They have been heated. Once an individual coil touchs an adjacent coil it no longer has any "spring rate".

I'd go ahead and try the spacers but I am betting it will ride very rough though. Once you put in the spacer you will only have 1 wrap of coil acting as the entire spring, all the other wraps of coils are already collapsed.

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by Miller92

Well stock or not, you guys think I should put my spacers in these or try and find some others?

First off coil spacers suck .... In this situation, to get them to do anything, you'd have to squeese them in between the collasped coils. Good luck with that one. Disconnect shock, and lift truck by the frame.

Originally Posted by lakeroadster

Agreed.

They have been heated. Once the coils touch each other they no longer have any "spring rate".

[ChiefRocka]

If you cant find some truck springs ... try some G-body ones.

Not sure what the height would be.

[Miller92]

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

First off coil spacers suck .... In this situation, to get them to do anything, you'd have to squeese them in between the collasped coils. Good luck with that one. Disconnect shock, and lift truck by the frame.

How would I lift it by the frame? I just thought the spacers would be best for me cause right now I'm still in high school and am low budget.

[Stubnosebrock]

Not trying the argue, But I can honestly say that every 60-66 coil spring rear truck I can remember seeing, the springs have looked like that. Im pretty sure mine haven't been heated and they have the same set of coils that are close just like the OP's

[Miller92]

Well stock or not, you guys think I should put my spacers in these or try and find some others?

[Stubnosebrock]

What exactly do you mean by spacers? The things that go in between the coils to give the springs some lift?

[Miller92]

Yes sir. I've got some coil spring spacers to raise the rear end up 2.5".

[Stubnosebrock]

Well im beginning to think ive been wrong about the springs, but it cant hurt to try the spacers. Worst case scenario, they dont do what you want, and maybe a new set of stock springs will get you where you want.

[kalirodding]

I have cut the springs on 4 different trucks, and all the springs have looked like that. Definitely not heated but could be collapsed. These trucks are old.

[PAPA KENT]

Here are some pictures of the springs that miller has now there is a larger gap in these between the center coils but these of course are unladen being out of the truck.there was 1/8" or just a hair more of clearance between the center coils when they were mounted.check out the thickness of the coils.

[yelmer]

my c 20 has these springs but the do not touch . you cannot get these springs from any spring company they say the sell them, but they are completely different . not the tight coil setup

[PAPA KENT]

Originally Posted by yelmer

my c 20 has these springs but the do not touch . you cannot get these springs from any spring company they say the sell them, but they are completely different . not the tight coil setup

yes your right, 20-30 years ago you would see these quite a bit when 3/4 tons were seen daily.miller92's springs have sagged and compressed over the years.when i bought my 62 they had standard 1/2 t springs that someone did a piss poor job of heating and lowering so i put a pair of the heavy duty springs under it and it was a little to stiff for me anymore so i opted for a (light duty) standard set.i just figured i would keep these around in case i change my mind.

[Miller92]

Thanks for all the info guys, yall have been a big help!
I'm currently trying to find some springs that went under the 2wd 3/4 ton pickups and hopefully that'll raise it a bit. I knew the truck looked lower than normal but never did check it out. Now I know why. The front is a lil lower than I like but I can't change them myself so those will have to wait a while. Only 3/4 ton springs I've found so far are in LMC for $70. Didn't seem too bad to me but imma try to find some for cheaper first. You guys know what year springs will work for these pickups?

[Clyde65]

check your local parts house.

[lakeroadster]

If it ain't broke, why replace it? If you are happy with the ride of your truck why not keep the springs you have and get or make some lifting blocks?

Basically lifting blocks would go on top of the trailing arm to lift the truck. They make these types of blocks for GM cars. Make some phone calls.. get some dimensional information, heck these might be just the ticket!

Something like this ...
http://www.globalwest.net/1603.html

[PAPA KENT]

Originally Posted by lakeroadster

if it ain't broke, why replace it? If you are happy with the ride of your truck why not keep the springs you have and get or make some lifting blocks?

Basically lifting blocks would go on top of the trailing arm to lift the truck. They make these types of blocks for gm cars. Make some phone calls.. Get some dimensional information, heck these might be just the ticket!

Something like this ...
http://www.globalwest.net/1603.html

good idea!

[Miller92]

Lakeroadster, I don't like how my truck sits as is. I can't afford a 3/4 ton so I wanna make mine sit like one. I know it sounds ridiculous but like I said, I'm a low budget high school kid. lol

[lakeroadster]

Originally Posted by Miller92

Lakeroadster, I don't like how my truck sits as is. I can't afford a 3/4 ton so I wanna make mine sit like one. I know it sounds ridiculous but like I said, I'm a low budget high school kid. lol

Hey, it's all good. I still remember those days... well some of them, it was the 70's..

Good luck whichever way you go!

[Longhorn Man]

his coils are not stacked up, there's a gap inbetween the coils. That is exactly how they came off the assembly line, with the exception of the rust.